FreeMufasa
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That sucks so bad. And now the country will be loosing 2 contributing members.
I'm also going to go to East Asia to teach English for a few years. Good luck.
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UK/R.O.I GAF - Thread of geopolitical confusion
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That sucks so bad. And now the country will be loosing 2 contributing members.
I'm also going to go to East Asia to teach English for a few years. Good luck.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Shit sucks dude. Our immigration policy leaves a lot to be desired, but of the groups you have mentioned, one is not like the others. Benefit dependency in two of the three groups is lower than British nationals, and higher in one, one guess as to which group has higher benefit dependency than British nationals.
Either way the government just need to make a list of countries from which people can immigrate and countries from which they can't. India and Sri Lanka would be on the former, for sure, as would China, Taiwan and HK.
el retorno
Member
I get the undercurrents of that in his speech and I have friend from the UK who says this is pretty much with the goal of getting ride off, like you said, south asian immigrants.
I don´t really know where I´d study (Not one of the school that have issues with being sponsored or whatever that means) but I do have an Undergrad degree from the US in PoliSci from a top 50 school with honors and undergrad thesis (which aren´t too common it seems) and I´d like to consider going to study International Relations, International Finance, Economics or something. But I really don´t know if I´d go if I know I´d get kicked out if I don´t have a job or one that pays too little (wish I would have done more IT stuff since that seems like its a way into most countries right now.). I mean there are other countries in Europe and don´t mind learning another language.
That's whack. Do you know if this affects recently married couples?
Quote where I said it was.
Typical strawman, knee jerk argument.
The pendulum settling in the middle suggests that even someone like you would admit that THIS POLICY (the one we were discussing) is:
stupid
ill thought out
to appease the far right (or you in this instance)
reggieandTFE
Member
Quick question from a Yank: why don't the Conservatives want Scotland to be independent even though it will insure them a long-term parliamentary majority in the UK?
Scottish seats have only been important in the outcome of an election once since WWII. It'd be like if, say, Alabama, Tennessee and Arkansas all left the USA. It would be slightly beneficial to the Democrats but would be unlikely to make or break an election.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Because most Tories believe that the union makes the UK stronger than being separate countries. They think national interest is more important than party interest so will hammer away at saving the union despite the fact that it handicaps them in the long term.
You got a problem with typical strawman, knee jerk arguments?
Absolutely. This policy is aimed at appeasing people like me and it's further proof that the government don't have the first fucking idea what people like me want. What we certainly don't want is to lose a citizen as valuable as Meadows' missus (or, by extension, Meadows).
It was far too far left and now it's swinging too far right. Momentum tells me it will swing even further right before we eventually arrive at some sensible immigration policies.
reggieandTFE
Member
Interesting stuff. The Republicans here in the US would never put the national interest before their party.
I was in town too but it only snowed for about 5mins. Started and stopped whilst I was on a cig break :/
Hope we get a heavy fall overnight or something, really missing the snow this year.
I am doing my masters and I don't even think I'd earn that when I graduate. Yeeeeeesh.
Yeah, I'm all in favour of cutting immigration too, I think it's too soft and too high, mostly from EU countries, although there's obviously not a lot we can do about that.
A points system would be the best, like the ones Canada/NZ/Australia have, my GF speaks perfectly fluent English, hasn't got any long term health problems, will have a Management degree from a top 15 university and is fluent in Mandarin and speaks basic Cantonese, French and is learning a bit of Welsh on the side! Why the fuck are we pushing these people away!!!?!?!
el retorno
Member
When is it going to come back 5-10 years?
el retorno
Member
Well I was looking again, and unless they change it again It looks like that monetary cap only kicks in after 5 years if you´re applying for residency. I think its only 20,000 right now to get a work visa.
I don´t know if that makes it better. It´d just give people another 5 years to get a 10,000 raise.
Bingo, nailed it.
When I did live in oz I looked into staying on, they made it pretty clear that to get sponsorship (stay for a few years) took a certain level, then residency took a bit more (prove your worth if you will) and then citizenship.
My sister has lived there for 8 years working in Marketing, earning over £60k per annum and generating taxes, all that shit, she only just got her citizenship last year.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Because Grayling is a complete arsehole.
This government have got no idea of how to control immigration, the HSMP system was better than what is being proposed, but really what we need is a list system whereby people from any blacklisted country cannot apply for any kind of visa for the UK (tourist or work). It's really that simple.
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
You could always get married.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
That's a good point. Get married now for legal reasons before the government introduce the rules.
that's what my dad said, it's looking likely.
Really don't want to do it under these circumstances though, neither of us has nearly enough money to pull off a nice wedding.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Don't go for a nice wedding, just go to the registry centre and don't tell any of your IRL friends that you did it.
isn't this really fucking sad...ugh
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Yeah, but if you want to beat the rule changes it's an easy loophole.
Marry now for practical reasons and renew the vows later for the ceremony.
The important thing is that you're together.
Hot Coldman
Banned
GAF wedding? I'M SO HAPPY 
phisheep
NeoGAF's Chief Barrister
My wife always said a nice husband was more important than a nice wedding, though actually we managed a jolly good wedding for about £600 and still together 25 years later.
Not to push you either way mate, your call (and your GFs), but it seems to me that happiness of marriage is about inversely proportional to cost of the ceremonials.
Good luck either way.
Psychotext
Member
Hot Coldman
Banned
Some men just want to watch the world burn.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Why?
Vivalaraza
Member
That is really sad mate, sorry to hear that.
Will be the best thing to do practically though. As you said though, a shame it would be under those circumstances.
Yay! Another food show to watch!
I have yet to see a single one of those Kit Kat Chunkies in a store. Admittedly I'm not looking that hard, but still. I@d be happy with either the peanut butter or orange ones. Remember when they used to have tubes of only orange Smarties? That was a glorious time.
Vauxhall Corsa?
Astra, but close enough!
Bugger, I was torn between the two. 02/03 Model in Silver / Grey?
I've had a habit of trying to identify cars from obscure bits since I saw a guy do it on 'You Bet' about 20 years ago.
Tea and Toast
Member
Every time I go into my local supermarket they have all of those kit kats available apart from the white one, where the box always seems to be empty.
By the way, I'm from Cardiff.
By the way, I'm from Cardiff.
In green, but not a bad effort at all.
You Bet! was an amazing show. They tried to recreate the magic with the shit Epic Win thing that was on last year, but it just wasn't the same. I think Matthew Kelly is due a return to TV
if he's still alive?
Dr Frasier Crane
Member
Ha I fucking remember that. Also the top gear where Steve Coogan identified cars by the sound of their doors being closed.
PJV3
Member
I saw Jay Kay(twat with a hat) on tv identifying cars by the noise the doors made, i was strangely impressed by it.
^ Coogan as well?, fucking weirdos.
Hey guys, your friendly neighbourhood UK mod here to remind you why this thread got deleted last time...
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