Uncharted 4 runs at 1080p and targeting 60fps
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Maninthemirror
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It will, as a cutscene, run a couple of layers below and you get it as gameplay
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Doesn't The Order transition from cutscene to gameplay pretty much proves this wrong?
Will it really though? The PS4 can't perform magic.
But does The Order look anything as good as this? Anyways. Cutscenes rendered in real-time is different. Something rendered in-engine does not mean that the PS4 can render anything like it in real-time.
Chobel
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!
Maninthemirror
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And mind you, order are first time console developers while naughty dogs were the team chosen to build the console by cerny
maneil99
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Judging a console by launch is never a great idea
Oh, man! This excites me greatly.
JaseMath
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That's literally amazing.
Wow, just wow.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
PS3 renders the higher-quality assets at 4k in 1/30th of a second or less when you snap a photo?
Yeah, it would be a waste of resources to simulate that in real-time unless you had large-scale dynamic terrain destruction.
dragonbane
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I never doubted that. Just saying this won't be the peak at all.
The Order doesn't use pre-rendered cutscenes.
ND didn't build the PS4 lol They were asked for input alongside many other devs.
Just like TLOU and UC1-3, it's not going to look like that in gameplay... so it's in your best interest to lower your expectations.
one might say that judging a game's graphics by a teaser isn't one either
eternaLightness
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My Oh My
Betta Lines
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You are suggesting the photos you see produced by GT5/GT6 photo mode are screencaps of the photomode running in realtime. This is incorrect. When you line up a shot in realtime, the quality is higher than gameplay, and probably a tad higher than replay (going by the way the framerate tanks), but it's still horribly aliased, and the shadows are very low quality. Detailed tessellation takes seconds to kick in, and when you take the shot, the PS3 then renders it veeery slowly at full quality. It takes several seconds to produce the frame, so certainly can't be described as realtime.
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
It could if you were a couple levels into someone's dream.
Judging by specs is usually a good idea though. The GPU is roughly the same as a 660ti, which is alright but nothing to brag to your mom about. I mean even if the PS4 can mange to find 50% more power than in your standard 660ti then it still isn't going to be good enough to play anything with the graphics in that trailer. At least not if the area is larger than 2 square feet, and not at 60 fps.
Cave Johnson
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Like classic Tomb Raider. I hope this time going 60fps isn't just to showcase some tech muscle but design intricate platforming sequences with the added benefit of minimal input lag.
To think, if such were the case that Uncharted would bring back the glory of the original TR; oh. the. fucking. irony!
NeoGAF
BELIEVE
ethomaz
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What you see in the phote mode is rendered in realtime... it have better quality than Replay or Gameplay Mode... you choose te position and how the picture will be... it render in realtime at your local PS3.
Pre-rendered means you rendered in a PC or even the console and saved the result to show in the game after.
Even so its better to lower your expectations and be surprised than the other way round.
It was only a couple weeks ago how people were crying about The Order footage because they expected too much and this small snippet of what is basically no more than a tech demo will do exactly the same.
That being said it will no doubt still look impressive come release considering the other games in the series and TLOU, depends on where you set your expectations though.
velociraptor
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Let's not be premature now. We have no idea what the PS4 is truly capable of. Obviously it's not the most powerful machine in the world (though it is the most powerful console so far) but it's still roughly 10x more powerful than the PS3.
Keep in mind a gimped 7800 produced games that looked as good as Uncharted 2, Killzone 3, God of War 3/Ascension and Beyond.
BlackBuzzard
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Betta Lines
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The original point was that a photo from GT's photomode can be described as 'in-engine' because it only uses the engine's assets, but it renders it very slowly, far less than 1FPS, so can't be described as realtime.
ethomaz
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This is realtime and not pre-rendered.
LicenceToK1ll
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These tweets make more sense to me now :
https://mobile.twitter.com/thuway/status/467692294183743488
Did they mean Uncharted 4 @1080P&60hz?
https://mobile.twitter.com/thuway/status/467692294183743488
Did they mean Uncharted 4 @1080P&60hz?
TAJ
Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Said no one at Naughty Dog.
They don't know anything. Seriously look back at the things they said would be at E3. Nothing came through and things said before haven't come through either.
This is just down to ND's skills, code to the metal, and the general setup of PS4. I believe they might hit it as some months ago in a talk a naughty dog dev said there was enough to do just that.
“more powerful than it’s necessary to render graphics at 1080p at 60 hz” and that the idea of the designers of the PS4 was to give the console extra GPU resources because it’s “incredibly good at doing massive amounts of parallel processing” and they envisioned that game designers are going to take advance of that processing to do physics, cloth simulation, fluids and more on the GPU."
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=782997
dragonbane
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It would be foolish to expect Uncharted to look as good as this trailer, but some people take it too far as usual and predict massive downgrades. I'm pretty confident that those won't happen. It won't look this good, but rather close.
That's what I'm assuming. Basically similar to the last of us reveal. Less good graphics but far away from an outrage inducing downgrade
Betta Lines
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You're arguing semantics, I'm sure you understand what people are trying to say in terms of what Naughty Dog are doing here. The photos produced by GT's photomode at 0.1FPS or whatever look vastly superior to when you're lining up the shot at (usually less than) 30fps. The PS3 is completely incapable of rendering that quality at a playable framerate - the GT trailers and intro movies are the same. They would be described as 'in-engine', which is different to 'gameplay/in-game'.
Your original statement was 'Both are in game / in engine... there is no difference...'. This is not true.
Did they pretend like the Last of Us reveal was real time though? I remember people speculating but the trailer itself didn't say "captured on PS3" or anything, did it?
Yes it did
The Last of Us VGA 2011 Trailer: http://youtu.be/qLGxubfC1Ik
The wording is even exactly the same
Yeah I just went back and looked. I just lost a little respect for Naughty Dogs.
Edit: Actually I remembered that trailer looking way better than it does. It's not complete bullshit, just a little "target-rendery." I guess we'll see, won't we...
I propose less bulletsponge enemies, they need to be closer to Spec Ops The Line, it needs more agressive gore, if I shot an arm that arm must detach depending on the weapon, shotgun close range should detach half a torso with lots of blood.
A little less automated platforming too but more importantly is the gore, make it gory.
1080p/60fps does no surprise me at all.
They did wonders on a machine with like a 200gflop GPU and 512mb of split ram.
Though I am wondering what they could of achieved at 30fps?, the framerate in uncharted games never bothered me.
Maybe U4 is going to have major focus on multiplayer hence the 60fps?
They did wonders on a machine with like a 200gflop GPU and 512mb of split ram.
Though I am wondering what they could of achieved at 30fps?, the framerate in uncharted games never bothered me.
Maybe U4 is going to have major focus on multiplayer hence the 60fps?
I guess "captured directly" doesn't mean "rendered in real-time at 30fps on a PS3". I don't doubt that Uncharted 4 will look absolutely stunning. I just think it's foolish to believe that it will look like the reveal trailer.
1080/60/color corrected face
http://a.pomf.se/iivjnd.webm
his nose fucking moves when he scrapes it on the rock.
http://a.pomf.se/iivjnd.webm
his nose fucking moves when he scrapes it on the rock.
dragonbane
Member
It said exactly the same before the TLoU unveiling trailer, which turned out to be a pre-rendered cutscene. Same situation here. It's maybe slightly misleading, but since I know what to expect I'm not really mad.
More like a triple base hit.
DangerMouse
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As said last night, they are totally on another level, holy shit at both versions.