It's not anywhere near as impossible as it looks. Just take a deep breath, dodge his attacks as best as you can, and the way to defeat him should become pretty clear.
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Undertale |OT| Indie RPG with determination and spider bake sales
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Question about the
fight:
Sans
Do his dialogue turns get shorter the more you die to him or something? Last night when I was fighting him he seemed to have an extra line about his special attack, but playing today he didn't say it and went straight to his "survive THIS and I'll show you my special attack" one.
Speaking of that I got all the way to the end before getting killed by the spiral of dragon lasers. Shit sucks
Speaking of that I got all the way to the end before getting killed by the spiral of dragon lasers. Shit sucks
CypherSignal
Member
It helps that he's been assisted by someone who already made that mistake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8NtML0CGCSQ
OniBarubary
Banned
lol Normally I wouldn't actually put any stock in this hubbledy jubbledy but
almost every line of dialogue is proceeded by an asterisk
He kinda figured it out even before Ross helped him along thanks to his atrociously unwatchable playthrough with Holly.
I noticed the change in his speech, but I don't think the battle shortens any.
I tried mapping out his attacks, and I'm pretty sure they follow this order (assuming you're just attacking and not using recovery items):
- Short random attacks
- Laser Chase
- Short random attacks
- Wall smashing
- Wall smashing
- Giant laser chase
- Vertical long bones
- Short random attacks
- Harder wall smashing
- 2nd to last attack
I tried mapping out his attacks, and I'm pretty sure they follow this order (assuming you're just attacking and not using recovery items):
- Short random attacks
- Laser Chase
- Short random attacks
- Wall smashing
- Wall smashing
- Giant laser chase
- Vertical long bones
- Short random attacks
- Harder wall smashing
- 2nd to last attack
AHA-Lambda
Member
OK, I just beat that boss.
What do i do now?
it told me to
What do I do?
What do i do now?
it told me to
reload my save and be friends with Undyne but I'm just back before the King fight again
What do I do?
kurona_bright
Neo Member
Take the boat back to Waterfall and visit Undyne's house. It's to the north of the trash heap.
And get ready for spaghetti. Ish.
And get ready for spaghetti. Ish.
OniBarubary
Banned
Go be friends with Undyne. Remember when during the chase scene with Undyne Papyrus told you you should meet at her house to be friends? Go to her house.
Go
befriend Undyne. Her house is in Waterfall. Take the boat there, go up and take the left. It's the third entrance from the right to the left in the upper part of that room.
AHA-Lambda
Member
So I don't need to
restart my save
I assumed I had to
start over?
kurona_bright
Neo Member
Nope!
You only need to restart if Flowey tells you to.
edit: beaten. Here, have some nice mildly spoilerly fanart. http://palidoozy-art.tumblr.com/image/130490512166
If you poured water on her you're able to befriend her
Isn't that the guy that blew himself up so hard his code was scattered across the game? There's no mention of him when you play in the game either. You actually have to look through the game's files to know about him. Also he blew himself up so hard, that anybody that really knew him also disappeared. It's meta as hell.
lukeskymac
Member
You underestimate the power of DETERMINATION.
Seriously though, the True Pacifist ending involves you not dying to an all powerful being solely because you refuse to. The game as already jumped that shark.
The only thing we know with 99% certainty about Gaster is this: He is related to Sans and Papyrus (W.D. Gaster -> Wing Din Gaster -> from the two fonts, Wing Dings and Aster) and worked with Sans experimenting with SAVEs and determination when he was Royal Scientist. (Alphys' determination extractor was built with his blueprints). It was during one such experiment that he became lost through space and time. Also he kind of looks like a bowling pin.
Mercy Route will be just sparing him so he can go back to sleep, Fighting Route will be him one-shotting you so he can go back to sleep.
OniBarubary
Banned
That dude in the background with the ficus gets me every fucking time.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Yeah I did that ^_^
You did? The thing at her house? Before or after? If you did after, go finish the game, i think? Not sure lol
In my case i had to help alphys
AHA-Lambda
Member
Sorry, misquoted, I meant the thing about the water.
Yeah, one of my favourite games this year.
Yeah I've pretty much got the pattern of all his attacks down. Some of them are just so hard to dodge, like the long vertical bone attack, I always have to use a turn for healing after that
Yeah I can do that for about the first half of the attack, but I'm not quick enough to keep it up the entire time. Eventually I just start hitting them because they're too fast for me
edit: And when he fucking
quick slams me against the wall once and again against the same wall, I get sent back into the attack before it disappears. I can't avoid getting hit.
I can see the argument, but it's pretty clear that not being able to save Asriel is 100% Toby's intent and it's not gonna change. Honestly it feels like Toby was juggling too many messages and metaphors at the end of the game so there's some debatable choices like that, but what are ya gonna do.
And yeah, I read the Steam thread about Gaster. I'm really curious to see if there's more to him that people haven't found yet, or if it's going to be added later.
And yeah, I read the Steam thread about Gaster. I'm really curious to see if there's more to him that people haven't found yet, or if it's going to be added later.
SomedayTheFire
Member
I just love the vibe of this game. 75 minutes in and loving it but man I suck at the combat hah
True Pacifist ending done and, well, I liked neutral ending much more. That last battle wasn't half as good as the neutral one. Do you recommend doing genocide?
Something I didn't understand about true pacifist ending...
Solely thinking about it makes feel as vilanous as Flowey...
Something I didn't understand about true pacifist ending...
How did it come for Flowey to have Asriel's sentience? Just because his ashes fell to the flower and it nutrured of it? And then Alphys RANDOMLY picked that flower to make experiments?
I'm also confused about that Frisks (EDIT: Fallen one) thing... so he was a jerk? Why the game has to invalidate one of the most touching moments of Neutral ending? Knowing that Frisk (EDIT: the Fallen one) is a jerk harms the tragic story of Asriel making it nearly pointless. 
True Pacifist ending done and, well, I liked neutral ending much more. That last battle wasn't half as good as the neutral one. Do you recommend doing genocide?
Solely thinking about it makes feel as vilanous as Flowey...
Something I didn't understand about true pacifist ending...
How did it come for Flowey to have Asriel's sentience? Just because his ashes felt to the flower and it nutrured of it? And then Alphys RANDOMLY picked that flower to make experiments?
I'm also confused about that Frisks thing... so he was a jerk? Why the game has to invalidate one of the most touching moments of Neutral ending? Knowing that Frisk is a jerk harms the tragic story of Asriel making it nearly pointless.
frisk wasn't a jerk. the fallen human was. they are two separate people
When a monsters ashes are spread on an object they loved while alive their essence will be merged with that object.True Pacifist ending done and, well, I liked neutral ending much more. That last battle wasn't half as good as the neutral one. Do you recommend doing genocide?
Solely thinking about it makes feel as vilanous as Flowey...
Something I didn't understand about true pacifist ending...
How did it come for Flowey to have Asriel's sentience? Just because his ashes fell to the flower and it nutrured of it? And then Alphys RANDOMLY picked that flower to make experiments?
I'm also confused about that Frisks (EDIT: Fallen one) thing... so he was a jerk? Why the game has to invalidate one of the most touching moments of Neutral ending? Knowing that Frisk (EDIT: the Fallen one) is a jerk harms the tragic story of Asriel making it nearly pointless.
He loved the yellow flowers.
OniBarubary
Banned
Um, wow. So apparently if you spend a while looking at the word search it actually thinks you solved it and there's alternate dialogue from Papyrus and sans
Rockman Wright
Banned
i just finished the
True pacifist ending, after the genocide run, and i don't regret it at all! I mean it's far better to save everyone after killing them than the contrary! Even if in the end, the first human take control and eventually destroy the world (but we'll never know)
man this game is truly amazing!
Cool, and definitely congrats, just a question however,
what does Flowey say when you boot up the game again?
Most likely Gaster. Potentially Flowey but I doubt it. Nothing is confirmed.
I wasn't expecting to laugh that hard.
I don't think it's the man who speaks in hands. Sound wise, it's Omega Asriel's voice.
onyl thing is
for some wierd reason I dont think aslriel/flowey would use a cell phone to communicate
Neither do I, hence why I couldn't provide an explanation of why it would make sense after pointing out it's Asriel's voice. :v
lukeskymac
Member
Well, we know there are going to be patched-in content. So I'd say yes.
Rockman Wright
Banned
Thanks man!
He say the same thing that he say after a normal true pacifist (not post-genocide), just checked on youtube
anyway i'm happy that i stumbled on this game randomly on an akward zombie comics, not sure if i would have found it if it were not for her
http://www.awkwardzombie.com/index.php?page=0&comic=092115
Ah,
that's fair enough if you assume at that point he has no power and thus telling of how Frisk is living his "happy life". Would have been cool however if there had been special dialogue on that.
Thanks for sharing!
CypherSignal
Member
Ah...yes...
This is a good feeling.
(I think over 60 deaths, about 9 +/-1 of which was on that fking last attack)
Played alot before I had to go be social, man the music is fucking great love the oldschool bit music, and the unique battle system is really rad. Fought my first boss
and wow really awesome challengeling but fun and constantly changes it up to keep it interesting. The humor is the best part of the game, weird characters that often have me cracking a smile, and that's the beauty of the game I almost always have a smile on my face.
(Sans Brother)
Spoiler question about the game's soundtrack:
What's the deal with the track "Song That Might Play When You Fight Sans"? I assumed it would be a battle track against him in a neutral playthrough but you only ever fight him in the genocide route. Is that entire track just meant to be a red herring to hide what his boss fight is actually like?