WhereAreMahDragonz
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lol @ that Kit Harington thread, especially WhereAreMahDragonz's post:
Sure he is...
Well I couldn't make of obvious!
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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Well I couldn't make of obvious!
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
I didn't say anything!
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Jon's big cliffhanger isn't happening this season though is it?
Basileus777
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It might. We don't know.
Don't see why it couldn't happen this season. Election stuff takes an episode or two, Stannis stuff and Sam leaving takes two or three more, follow up with the episode 10 cliffhanger.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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It's totally happening this season
Episode 10. Believe it.
Episode 10. Believe it.
Atraveller
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A gaffer had it right, if you haven't read the books, most of the stuff doesn't mean anything.
RatskyWatsky
Hunky Nostradamus
Both are right!
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Or just Melisandre burning Shireen alive as Jon opens his eyes
Spoilers for Loras' role in season 5
So, what do you think?
So, what do you think?
It's just him confronting the Faith when they arrest Margeary or is Cersei accusing him of something? He is no Kettleback, that's for sure, no one would believe he is having relations with his sister (which he totally did or intended to do in the show by the way)
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Why would they make them
if the show has already established that Loras loved Renly?
Jaime and Cersei lite
Cersei is not a smart woman. Besides, it doesn't have to be true, it would be just an accusation.
They've eventually got to resolve the Cersei/Loras marriage plot they created. Having Cersei loose the mob on him would certainly do that. There's no explicit mention of anti-gay sentiment among the Sparrows in the book, but that's such an easy shorthand for religious zealotry these days that I could definitely see them pushing the Sparrows in that direction for the show. They could maybe do the plot where Loras and Tommen bond a bit, especially with the aged up Tommen having him learn to fight would make sense, and then that could push him over the edge.
Also, a thought I had about Jon's end of the season: if they do the stabbing in episode 10, how difficult would it be for them to keep it a secret that he's really not dead if he's going to have to be back in Belfast a month or two later to do a full season's worth of filming for season 6? Unless he's going to be dead for practically a whole season and only have a scene or two to film, that seems like it's be pretty hard. With a plot twist like that, you'd probably have mainstream media outlets looking for evidence he's not dead instead of just the usual fan sites, and we all know how loose they've gotten with the spoilers lately. It seems like you'd either have to get to Jon's death early enough that you can also get to the resurrection this season, or hold it for next season to do an early-season twist. I guess if you could get to the stabbing in 9 you could have him revived in 10, but that seems kind of anti-climactic.
Maybe you open the next season with the stabbing a la House of Cards Season 2 (except unlike House of Cards, the character doesn't stay dead)? I think that'd work well, really hit the ground running next season. Then you can keep him dead for a few episodes, which is really more impactful than just being dead for the offseason anyway.
Also, there's every possibility that he doesn't necessarily need to come back wearing Kit Harington's luscious locks...
Or if they jump in on Treenternet stuff next season, establish that flashbacks are a thing now, they could handwave casting / filming as part of that stuff.
Also, there's every possibility that he doesn't necessarily need to come back wearing Kit Harington's luscious locks...
Or if they jump in on Treenternet stuff next season, establish that flashbacks are a thing now, they could handwave casting / filming as part of that stuff.
BobTheFork
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Where does that leave them for Season 6, assuming the next book isn't out? They have ended so many characters in different places that I was wondering if any book material would be left for the 6th season. Hell, they could have damn near a season out of the Ironborn but that isn't happening. We have a good book worth of Jon and Tryion but it feels like they would really need to stretch the Dany story for the full season (which I'm sure they could do).
I guess I've been assuming that season 5 would end with enough book material to get them part way through season 6 but it doesn't seem like it.
I'm assuming that WoW will be out by the time season 6 comes out. That might be a huge assumption.
And I'd love to think that they would dedicate an entire season to the Ironborn to space stuff out. This is just wishful thinking though. I really hate the idea of the show overtaking the books. :/
And I'd love to think that they would dedicate an entire season to the Ironborn to space stuff out. This is just wishful thinking though. I really hate the idea of the show overtaking the books. :/
WhereAreMahDragonz
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It was inevitable right from the beginning. There was no way George was going to get two books out in five years when the show first aired.
Steelyuhas
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I guarantee David and Dan know what George has written for Jon beyond the end of book 5.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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PhoenixDark
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TWOW will be out next year, not even worried.
Last book...bleh. He'll almost certainly miss that deadline and be lapped by the show. Could have been avoided if he didn't take such a long victory lap after completing ADWD. Granted the celebration and break were well deserved given how long he worked on the book but...he simply didn't have time to do that.
Last book...bleh. He'll almost certainly miss that deadline and be lapped by the show. Could have been avoided if he didn't take such a long victory lap after completing ADWD. Granted the celebration and break were well deserved given how long he worked on the book but...he simply didn't have time to do that.
Basileus777
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I don't think skipping the victory lap would have made a difference, the last book is going to miss the show by several years. There is no way he could have made it.
PHOENIXZERO
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_/¯It's old. I didn't name the character. People die in fiction. I did my due diligence.
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It's old. I didn't name the character. People die in fiction. I did my due diligence.
It's certainly not "old".
That's akin to saying to an Unsullied "Oh yeah, it's like that shocking death at the end of Game of Thrones season 1." Come on, man.
QuikZilver
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Any chance we get the prologue from AFFC in this season? I heard the actor for Jaquen H'qar is being brought back.
Moff
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there is a chance yes. people have also speculated arya might meet him in braavos (as a book change) or they make him kill balon greyjoy.
QuikZilver
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That would suck I'm hoping (speculation )he's the alchemist that show up in the prologue of AFFC(/speculation.
Damn, I am getting excited for this season. They can go in a thousand different directions, and that's great. For the look of things:
- Dorne plot will be intact and heavily expanded / modified (main characters colluding in Dorne). This could be a great way to build up interest in a new location, but it can also go very, very wrong. I am fearing for the replacement of the Jaime - Brienne's relationship : ( We'll see about this
- Some modifications will be made to the Septon's storyline. I am not bothered by Renly's more prominent role, I am optimistic about this. Also, this will demand an incredible and hard performance from Headay, Downfall-style
- Ayra training + mercy will be there, hell yes. Put it IN MAH VEINS
- Out with the Ironboring plot, yes. And there was much rejoycing
- Full Meerense knot untie-ing and pit scene too
- I really wonder how are they going to introduce Conninghton and how much film-able will Tyrion's plot and its incesant inner-monologue will be. But this will surely be present
- Bran used as a flashback device. We all want it. Need it.
And there are still many things that I wonder about:
- Will Jon's "death" be covered by the next season? Him reviving as "Azor Azahi reborn" could be a hell of a season cliffhanger
- Will they climax with the dual ice and fire battles that Martin had in mind for the end of ADWD? Or will they save them for the next season too?
- What the hell will they do with UnCat's plot?
- And consecuently: what about Brienne's? They cannot can her for an entire season, can they?
- Will they recreate Bolton's even more sexually sadistic antics?
- Will we have Frey pie best served cold?
- Will we get confirmation of the two main ASIOFAF theories? (Jon parentage, Daario-ironborn connection). I want this, if only for he consequent gaf riot that it will produce
- Will show Stannis keep sucking donkey balls?
Can't wait to see the answer for these!
*twirls lizard villian moustache*
- Dorne plot will be intact and heavily expanded / modified (main characters colluding in Dorne). This could be a great way to build up interest in a new location, but it can also go very, very wrong. I am fearing for the replacement of the Jaime - Brienne's relationship : ( We'll see about this
- Some modifications will be made to the Septon's storyline. I am not bothered by Renly's more prominent role, I am optimistic about this. Also, this will demand an incredible and hard performance from Headay, Downfall-style
- Ayra training + mercy will be there, hell yes. Put it IN MAH VEINS
- Out with the Ironboring plot, yes. And there was much rejoycing
- Full Meerense knot untie-ing and pit scene too
- I really wonder how are they going to introduce Conninghton and how much film-able will Tyrion's plot and its incesant inner-monologue will be. But this will surely be present
- Bran used as a flashback device. We all want it. Need it.
And there are still many things that I wonder about:
- Will Jon's "death" be covered by the next season? Him reviving as "Azor Azahi reborn" could be a hell of a season cliffhanger
- Will they climax with the dual ice and fire battles that Martin had in mind for the end of ADWD? Or will they save them for the next season too?
- What the hell will they do with UnCat's plot?
- And consecuently: what about Brienne's? They cannot can her for an entire season, can they?
- Will they recreate Bolton's even more sexually sadistic antics?
- Will we have Frey pie best served cold?
- Will we get confirmation of the two main ASIOFAF theories? (Jon parentage, Daario-ironborn connection). I want this, if only for he consequent gaf riot that it will produce
- Will show Stannis keep sucking donkey balls?
Can't wait to see the answer for these!
lol @ that Kit Harington thread, especially WhereAreMahDragonz's post:
Sure he is...
*twirls lizard villian moustache*
Moff
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oh I dont think there is much doubt that this is jaqen.
the question is will they show this scene at all in the show and/or may they use jaqen for something else.
the question is will they show this scene at all in the show and/or may they use jaqen for something else.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I don't think this will be an issue.
Leaked casting stuff:
I think the reason they're making Myrcella's plot a romance is because she's going to ask Jaime to stay in Dorne. He will leave at season's end and go to the Riverlands. He will look for Brienne instead of her coming to him, which will give Brienne time to do Riverland-y things with the Brotherhood. By the start of season six, I would not be surprised if he's headed to Riverrun to end the siege.
He will receive Cersei's letter while in
Dorne
Ikael said:
I'm assuming you mean Loras. I think they're just including him more to further emphasize the growing conflict between the Tyrells and Lannisters. As Mace's only son and heir (in the show), they will do anything to get him back, and the showrunners may even add Olenna plotting against Cersei as Cersei plots against Margaery. Should be an interesting dynamic.
Ikael said:
The only thing I'm worried about in regards to this is how the show will present the House of Black and White. In the book, there was a ton of world-building in regards to this, and it really helped flesh out Arya not only as a character, but the environment in which she had been thrust into (Braavos). I hope that they do not get rid of those details and interactions for the sake of building up to the killing of one character. It would be a total waste.
Ikael said:
The Ironborn plot, once Balon dies, anyway, is great. I don't think the story will be changed much without Euron and Victarion, which is why they're most likely cut, but it's just another element of Westerosi culture that's going to be lost in the translation from book to screen. I understand why it's necessary, it's just a shame. I wanted to see the Kingsmoot
Ikael said:
I think this, at least, will be fairly accurate to the book. All they need to do is to establish Hizdahr as a more prominent character as opposed to just having him appear in one scene (like last season) and to introduce the Sons of the Harpy and they're golden. Daznak's Pit will make for such an awesome television moment, I can't wait.
Ikael said:
JonConn and Faegon are totally cut, from the looks of it. There was a discussion about it earlier, but a lot of us seem to think (myself included) that Trystane will replace Aegon. He will end up not being the son of Doran, but rather, the child of Elia and Rhaegar that has been raised in Dorne. The result, if done correctly, should be the same as it is in the books.
This means, however, that they're going to have to find something for Tyrion to do. Shouldn't be hard, but they're going to need to re-introduce Jorah fairly early on for his plot to at least be entertaining.
Ikael said:
I agree. It's totally happening. Makes me wonder if we'll get R + L = J next season. But I doubt it.
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Ikael said:
I think so. I think they will do it like how it is in the book. Perhaps as the final scene of the season.
Ikael said:
Next season, most likely. I don't see how they can fit those in this year, with all the other stuff they have to get through first.
Ikael said:
Stoneheart is probably cut by this point. It's been an entire year since the Red Wedding; bringing her back now would be seen as incredibly gimmicky and reaching for the shock factor of it all.
Brienne will probably continue to roam the Riverlands in search of the girls. She may do things with the Brotherhood (sans Stoneheart), so that the viewer will see the utter chaos the Riverlands are in.
Ikael said:
With fake Arya? Perhaps. It may too much for viewers, especially if the actress is really young like the casting announcement showed. I mean I know she's legally able to do scenes based on her bio, but I doubt they would include it.
Ikael said:
The Manderlys are probably cut, so we won't even be getting Frey pies.
Ikael said:
I think it's too early for Jon, but if the Ironborn and their plot are cut altogether, I think it's easy to assume we won't be getting Eurario.
Ikael said:
Not if he leaves Mel and goes to Winterfell.
QuikZilver
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Probably not the characters in that chapter are very minor.
Although Sam will be introduce to does characters sooner or later if show version of Sam gets sent there. Do you have any idea what the faceless men are up to in this chapter?
WhereAreMahDragonz
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Daznak's Pit!!!!
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Someone for Jon to negotiate with as LC
Says they're
planning battles though. I guess Jon could be working with them to plan his raid on Hardhome, or maybe some wildlings march with Stannis and help plan Winterfell and/or Deepwood? Or maybe they're just inventing some confrontation with the Walkers, since they seem set on making sure that they make at least one appearance per season.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I don't see how they're going to fit in the Winterfell battle this season. They're probably just inventing something.
Hardhome is definitely cut. With all the other stuff they have to fit in this season, there's no way they'd include something that small.
Actually, on second thought...maybe they would. If they emphasize the dissatisfaction amongst the black brothers enough, it could potentially be a nice set up for Stabby Stab Time.
NSFW (though you can't see anything...) http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xpf1/t51.2885-15/1971425_716616241754777_818252985_n.jpg
Filming/Set Photo from iconic scene involving Cersi and a certain faith.
Near the umbrellas.
Credits to http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2i3s81/spoilers_allfirst_picture_from_iconic_season_5/
Filming/Set Photo from iconic scene involving Cersi and a certain faith.
Near the umbrellas.
Credits to http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2i3s81/spoilers_allfirst_picture_from_iconic_season_5/
It's hard to know if Hardhome is just a minor thing, or if it's set up for something major in Winds. I would tend to agree that it's probably cut though. Jon's plot has a lot of stuff like that, where I can't quite tell if things are just minor subplots, or if they're the start of bigger plots for the next book. The Alys Karstark stuff is kind of the same way.
Oh that episode is going to be so dope. Imagine if they do the dragon pit the same episode.
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