GentlemanCrow
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We knew it was heading that way I guess but damn they made a leap there.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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We knew it was heading that way I guess but damn they made a leap there.
i click that page and i feel anger towards grrm
just massive disgust towards grrm after seeing those photos
strange response i suppose - lol
Over
Yollo being with Dany? I figured it was inevitable in the bookverse, it just hasn't happened yet.
reelbigtink
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I suppose so. I'm a bigger fan of what George has done for the most part, but seeing the show split so hugely is, in my opinion, good news. Two stories for the price of one! Too bad the price will end up being 20+ years of waiting.
or it could just be TWOW spoilers via set photos
I doubt it. That's an ADWD scene.
It could be something simply happening sooner than in the books. I would bet on that over such a drastic alteration.
Either way, as long as it works on the show I'm content. They're separate entities.
I don't really think it's THAT different.
Tyrion just ends up getting bought as a servant for Hizdahr instead of Yezzan. If what we're seeing there is their first scene together, then he probably doesn't even get to reveal himself before she flies off. And Barristan is conspicuously absent from that shot, so he's not there to ID Tyrion either.
reelbigtink
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Maybe he "buys" Tyrion early in the season and Tyrion becomes an adviser to Hizdahr and Dany? Almost a hand to the king situation. He's sitting awfully close.
No different from where Missandei is sitting with regard to Dany, and she's just a servant. And he's wearing Hizdahr's colors, so I definitely think he belongs specifically to Hizdahr. I think Hizdahr may buy him pretty late in the season, and the this scene is the first time he'll actually have him in Dany's presence. That's just speculation, but that way it would just be D&D making Dany and Tyrion's near-miss an even nearer one, because we know they love those.
Same dude, just out in the sunlight now.
Steelyuhas
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The more interesting thing in those pictures
is Jorah fighting in the pits Gladiator-style?
reelbigtink
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Fair enough, and probably true. I think we're missing the bigger picture here, though. Missandei has access to 21st century bottled water so she is clearly a wizard this season.
Tyrion will probably escape from Yezzan about episode 7 or 8 and be sold to Hizdhar. He'll force Tyrion to fight in the Pit and right as he's about to die, Drogon will arrive
Basileus777
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Yeah, this is the more interesting thing for me as well. None of it is surprising though, they obviously had to restructure how these events played out. It's probably for the best.
Adaptations are not fanfiction.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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PHOENIXZERO
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Not surprising and gutting the bloat of AFfC and ADWD for a few characters is okay by me, even if it changes things significantly. I just hope the writing isn't shit.
RatskyWatsky
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whatevs the show has been like bad fanfiction for a while now
TWOW better come out next year
I think you've confused archetype with personality.
Lactose_Intolerant
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No Penny is an upgrade
Atraveller
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Maybe not, the two writers are the only people besides GURM that know where it's going. I'm just curious what they are going to put in next after so much filler was carved out.
This is a hilarious observation that I enjoyed.
Moff
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haha, wow. I didnt expect that.
Tyrion, jorah and euron with Dany at/in the pit
I'm starting to really look forward to that season now. i will enjoy this so much more than reading AFFC/ADWD, that's what I always hoped for.
I wonder if
Jorah
barristan
Oh, that was a surprise.
I have high hopes they'll fix the clusterfuck that was Tyrion's story in ADWD. Maybe (speculation for season 6)
BTW, Meissandei showing she is the best girl. Mel, step up your game.
I have high hopes they'll fix the clusterfuck that was Tyrion's story in ADWD. Maybe (speculation for season 6)
They'll push the Griff arc then, we'd get Moqorro and we'd have time for the Greyjoys!
BTW, Meissandei showing she is the best girl. Mel, step up your game.
RatskyWatsky
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You just described almost every character on the show.
That Dorne tard does not exist in the TV show. Which is a totally good cut, since he went nowhere. The hidden dragon stuff though, man, this show... It really is fan fic now LOL.
higgsboson1997
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It's been way better than ASOIAF has been for the last 13 years. What parts of it didn't you like?
higgsboson1997
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I don't get why people think the show is a fan-fiction. Almost everything that happens in it is approved by GRRM himself, and its not like D&D and BC are anything other than fantastic- the original work they produce is fantastic. This is an adaptation, and can't cover everything. The mere fact that it has been able to stay so true to the books so far alone is a testament to the quality of the people behind it, as most adaptations diverge with very little reason. The show has to be aiming to come to a close now, and needs to cut the bloat, which is probably why they are tweaking some things not important in the grand scheme of things (which they know and we don't). Why do we always assume that we know more than D&D and co., and that all changes will be for the worse?
No it's not. Every other thing is subjective but i think it's really hard to argue that shit like Jon's arc from season 2 onwards is any better.
I agree with your overall point and am much more supportive of D&D than a lot of fans, but George definitely hasn't pre-approved everything in the show. He signed away the rights to it years ago; D&D's correspondence with him isn't much more than a courtesy at this stage.
Moff
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the show is now finished with adapting the good books of ASOIAF and I can honestly say that I think D&D did a very good job. my main problem with the show still is and always has been the budget.
I'm aware that the show is not perfect, some scenes and characters haven't been translated good enough in my eyes, too. and I certainly wouldnt call all of D&Ds original work fantastic, but some of it is.
overall I am very happy with what D&D did. and the best thing about it is that they have already made needed changes to turn the bad books into good tv.
I'm aware that the show is not perfect, some scenes and characters haven't been translated good enough in my eyes, too. and I certainly wouldnt call all of D&Ds original work fantastic, but some of it is.
overall I am very happy with what D&D did. and the best thing about it is that they have already made needed changes to turn the bad books into good tv.
Does it necessarily have to be better? I never go into an adaptation expecting it'll be as good or better than the source material.
While it'd be great if everything was done really well, somethings need to change and somethings fall flat.
Adaptations rarely live up to the expectations set by the original, so I don't even go into it expecting the same or better, I just go in wanting to see how it gets adapted and I find I enjoy shows/movies from books a lot better when I'm not obsessing over how each scene was different and should have been better.
Overall, they've done a pretty great job so far. Yes, some added scenes were unnecessary. Yes, Tywin's death was very rushed. Yes, Balon still isn't dead. But there have been many improvements: The Battle of the Wall made for great TV, Brienne vs The Hound was amazing, Tywin and Arya as well as Arya and the Hound made for interesting duos, you get the idea.
But yes, the main problem has always been the budget. Ten episodes simply are not enough, especially with ACOK and AFFC/ADWD. Even GRRM agrees. It's one of the most popular shows on TV, HBO needs to give it a bigger budget. More episodes=More Viewers=More Revenue and the amount of fans will be at an all time high next season now that HBO GO will be available separate from a regular subscription.
secondspace
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I'm not too bothered by them changing things, TV has different needs and the last book needed some editing anyway. This looks like they're speeding things up though, which suggests we really are getting seven seasons no matter what.
It does look like Jorah is a gladiator from those stills, but add CGI and he could be thwarting an assassination attempt, you really can't tell.
It does look like Jorah is a gladiator from those stills, but add CGI and he could be thwarting an assassination attempt, you really can't tell.
Ok, it wasn't any good. Not from an adaption point of view, it just wasn't any good. Like most of the original material so far wasn't any good.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
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Yara's Theon rescue attempt was pretty good... as a comedy.
I am legit shook.
Everyone assumed the AFFC/ADWD seasons would be boring, but strap into the crazy train people.
WhereAreMahDragonz
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I actually think this season has the potential to be the best since season one.
Unlike the other seasons, they don't really have to establish any characters other than Hizdahr or the Sand Snakes. No one has to spend time setting up an important plot. The groundwork is already there, and all that has to happen now is they have to ride the wave, so to speak.
Looking back on it, cutting the Martells and the Greyjoys, not to mention JonConn and Faegon, is the best thing they've probably ever done.
Unlike the other seasons, they don't really have to establish any characters other than Hizdahr or the Sand Snakes. No one has to spend time setting up an important plot. The groundwork is already there, and all that has to happen now is they have to ride the wave, so to speak.
Looking back on it, cutting the Martells and the Greyjoys, not to mention JonConn and Faegon, is the best thing they've probably ever done.
The potential is definitely there. It also has potential to be the worst. I will say that what we've seen of what they've chosen to cut vs. keep so far shows that at the very least they understand what the strong and weak parts of those two books are. If plots had to go, Aegon and the Greyjoys were definitely the ones to go, and they've heavily restructured Tyrion and Brienne from the looks of things, which was probably needed as well. The only changes I'm really sad about are the loss of Jaime at Riverrun, which I can totally understand why that had to go from a time/budget perspective, and the Manderly stuff, if that's really cut. It's just going to hinge on how good their writing is in the stuff they're inventing, and how well they manage to pace it. They're moving through a lot of stuff, so it's going to be difficult not to feel rushed. It would be a lot easier to feel comfortable if they had done a stronger job on their Yara and Craster's Keep plots from last season.
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