biosnake20
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread
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It has to happen at the end of a season to be impactful (assuming it isn't final) and it can hardly be in season 6.
Willkiller
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy
Has potential to be as upsetting as the RW, especially with a certain demographic..
Has potential to be as upsetting as the RW, especially with a certain demographic..
It seems like that's the speculation with the haircut thing that is going around the web, isn't it? At the very least, it appears that he'll need to be recast or put on the shelf for a season.
Haha, they kinda did.
Once I realized that was what happened, all complaints about the lack of backstory were suddenly silly.
Steelyuhas
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No, that's people running with nothing. He cut his hair a few inches, it'll grow back.
This. It's sad to see so many "news" sites coming up with bullshit conjecture over a haircut.
Exactly. Also, even if he doesn't wear a hairpiece, why can't he just, you know... have a change of hairstyle? Look at Jaime throughout the four seasons so far. Besides, Jon even got his hair cut on-screen during the series premiere.
The problem with Jon's "death" is that the real outcome would be spoiled to everyone through casting news, though I guess even if they push it to season 6 people will know how many episodes he's in.
I think the most likely approach is to have a Stannis scene in the finale right before the Battle on Ice. S06E01 Jon receives the pink letter, for the watch, etc. E02 we get to see what happens after the battle (no way they're gonna spend their battle episode with Stannis alone, it'll be siege of meereen for sure) and Mel revives Jon.
yeah, but what else is there to ask really? I think that well is pretty dry right now.
Almost finished book one. Can someone tell me why certain people in the book, including Eddard, always refer to Stannis as the rightful heir to Robert Baratheon? What about the eldest bastard son of Robert? He's called Gendry in the show but I don't think they ever revealed his name was Gendry in the first book (though I might have missed that). Is Stannis the rightful heir because he happens to be of noble birth (not born out of wedlock) and so even though he isn't a son of Robert's, his inheritance takes precedence over a trueborn son, because that trueborn son's mother was not Robert's own wife?
Moff
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exactly, the oldest brother has a bigger claim than any bastard
Thanks.
Yup, finishing the first book and I'm caught up with the show. I like to use this thread because I think instead of googling and accidently stumbling into news that (fake spoiler) some crazy thing happens to Stannis in book five, it'd be safer to drive-by post here, look only at posts that respond to my own post, and then be on my way.
Morrigan Stark
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Uh yeah? How did you miss the whole "bastards have no claim" thing that permeated the whole book with Jon Snow? Gendry isn't trueborn, trueborn means within wedlock, not outside of it.
But Gendry isn't Robert's trueborn son, he is a bastard.
Moff
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is there an ETA for the trailer?
I just realized we had the trailer for season 4 by this time last year
you guys think we will have daznaks pit in the trailer?
do they need a glorious dragon in it, although drogon was already a highlight of the trailer last year?
maybe just a close up that doesnt reveal the location?
I just realized we had the trailer for season 4 by this time last year
you guys think we will have daznaks pit in the trailer?
do they need a glorious dragon in it, although drogon was already a highlight of the trailer last year?
maybe just a close up that doesnt reveal the location?
It should be out on 23rd, last two episodes of season 4 will be played in Imax from 23rd to 29th with the EXCLUSIVE trailer.
biosnake20
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So now we'll be getting the trailer sometime in February and there's no imax near me playing it. Great.
nrvalleytime
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Wait, wait, wait.
Where are people finding proof that
It seems open-ended, unless there's a released chapter from WoW that concretely proves it.
Where are people finding proof that
Jon actually dies at the end Dance with Dragons?
It seems open-ended, unless there's a released chapter from WoW that concretely proves it.
IMO, it can easily still be up in the air, but it didn't look very promising..
Unmarked spoilers all books dude. And where are you seeing people finding proof of such a notion?
Also, if Jon is dead dead, it's very bad storytelling on GRRM's part.
I mean, I'm pretty sure he's dead, but not dead dead. Melisandre will give him the breath of life or something.
nrvalleytime
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That's where I was pulling that idea from - I mean, you're right - it just seems like a convenient narrative device for him to experience Melisandre's influence.
For some reason, I thought there was information I'd missed during my readings or that had been released online. Good to know it's still speculative.
I heard non-readers were freaked out because Kit apparently cut his hair and part of his contract was that he couldn't. So they assumed that meant he dies or something.
I haven't talked to many people that actually thought Jon was permanently dead though.
Cornballer
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PHOENIXZERO
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They still have Robert's other bastard, the show version of Podrick.
Jon's "dying" just seems like a way to get him out of his Night's Watch oath along with the whole being "reborn" thing.
Jon's "dying" just seems like a way to get him out of his Night's Watch oath along with the whole being "reborn" thing.
There's no definitive proof right now but I don't think it's a coincidence that GRRM mirrored Jon's last moments in ADwD with those of Robb in ASoS. They were both attacked without warning and they both called out their wolf's names as their last acts (implying they warged into them) before being stabbed by people they trusted. The problem with Robb was that Grey Wind was killed shortly after that (after it really went crazy killing a bunch of people before being taken down) and he didn't have someone to revive him close by like Jon does.
fallengorn
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Looks like pre-orders on Fandango are live. Just picked up tickets for the 29th.
Gendry will row into the burnt-out husk of King's Landing in the final scene of the last episode of the series. Corpses everywhere. The only two survivors are barely alive themselves: Dany and Stannis weakly wrestling over a dented, ash-covered crown. Gendry shrugs, gets back in the boat, and rows away. Fin.
KingHenrik30
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Jon's not dead
Then we all complain when Arryn has been recast from the original dead guy on the slab in the pilot.
They really are. I'm kind of worried Arya is the only plot that turned out well, so they're just pushing her like crazy now, lol. I'm sure they just have numbers that say Arya's the most marketable piece of the show, though.
As for the teasers themselves, it looks like all old footage, save the shot of Arya at the doors. Only think I didn't recognize was the non-Arya one looks like it has a shot of someone breaking pots, and I don't know what that is.
biosnake20
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I agree. fAegon is something that seems to large to cut especially when George has said there will be a second dance of the dragons. If they haven't cast Young Griff but have cast a seemingly unimportant character like Trystane it makes me think there's a good chance he is their fAegon.
RatskyWatsky
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Exactly.
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