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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 5 Offseason Thread

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Bigby

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If you haven't read the books, I wouldn't advise posting in a thread with unmarked book spoilers.

Some people want to know what happens.

Why would she need to kill him? Correct me if I'm wrong, as I am someone who didn't read the books, but didn't Little Finger send that kid on his merry way to explore the world or something? lol

I don't think she will kill Robert. She has no reason to do it. Robert's being poisoned by Littlefinger, he will die soon and everyone will blame the Maester who gave him the "medicine".

I highly doubt the controversy is Littlefinger raping Sansa, not until he's in full power. Harry the Heir maybe, but not Petyr.
 

Moff

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I don't think she will kill Robert. She has no reason to do it. Robert's being poisoned by Littlefinger, he will die soon and everyone will blame the Maester who gave him the "medicine".

well she alread slapped him, I could imagine a similiar situation. she is not an assassin of course. but when they talk about something controversial, I could imagine it being Sansa killing Robert.
 
Some people want to know what happens.



I don't think she will kill Robert. She has no reason to do it. Robert's being poisoned by Littlefinger, he will die soon and everyone will blame the Maester who gave him the "medicine".

I highly doubt the controversy is Littlefinger raping Sansa, not until he's in full power. Harry the Heir maybe, but not Petyr.

Has Harry been seen in the HBO show, yet? Must be something they're building up to.
 

eot

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I don't think she will kill Robert. She has no reason to do it. Robert's being poisoned by Littlefinger, he will die soon and everyone will blame the Maester who gave him the "medicine".

To be clear (since he hasn't read the books), that's a bit speculative. It's never made explicit.
 

Bigby

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well she alread slapped him, I could imagine a similiar situation. she is not an assassin of course. but when they talk about something controversial, I could imagine it being Sansa killing Robert.

Well, it could be and accident.

She slaps him and he falls on the ground and breaks his neck.

Has Harry been seen in the HBO show, yet? Must be something they're building up to.

Nope, we haven't seen him yet.
 
There's a good chance he's been completely written out. Honestly the books don't offer much insight into Sansa's future in the TV show beyond what the show itself has already established.

Their ultimate goal is to entertain. Sex appeal is huge. With Sophie Turner being 18-19 now, it wouldn't surprise me if they asked her to remove clothes or have some on-screen sex.
 
I don't think she will kill Robert. She has no reason to do it. Robert's being poisoned by Littlefinger, he will die soon and everyone will blame the Maester who gave him the "medicine".

I highly doubt the controversy is Littlefinger raping Sansa, not until he's in full power. Harry the Heir maybe, but not Petyr.

Yeah, most people immediately jump to one of these two conclusions when it comes to the controversial stuff, but almost none of them offer a good explanation as to WHY LF/Sansa would even do either of these things.

I don't see why Sansa would want to kill Robert, especially if Harry really is a dick - which makes Sansa wanting to protect Robert seem more likely to me. And I don't see why LF would rape Sansa and take her virginity, when the fact that she's still a virgin makes her far more "valuable".

... Maybe something will happen that will make one of these two things have to happen (maybe Sansa decides to work with LF completely - working with him to kill Robert [assuming LF is already trying]; maybe Sansa tries to become too independent which pisses LF off and leads him to rape her) but I don't really see any the two happening right now.
 

Iksenpets

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Stannis is very prominent at least early on in the season. That's all I'll say.

Sitting on those secret inside scoops again?

Trailer was really nice. I wish it had more Northern stuff, just because I'm really curious about Stannis/Boltons and there've really been no leaks out of those plots. Hopefully for trailer 2.

Also, I'm really surprised that they basically confirmed that script leak.
That basically confirms Kevan and Lancel, and confirms that Littlefinger and Brienne will be in pretty direct conflict. Also confirms that Stannis demands the wildlings from Jon, but we see the wildlings marching on Hardhome pretty clearly, so I wonder how Jon is going to placate Stannis.
 

bengraven

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Oh yeah...

Dani and Missandei - I might take that over the major epic shots as my thing to look forward to. :p

Hardhome! Dammit I thought that's where we'd see Benjen eventually - my theory about him finding a wildling wife there. Maybe we'll see him this season?! Or maybe my theory is bunk since Jon is going there to wreck shit. Why though? In the books he sends men to save them from the starvation and walkers.

Maybe people loved the battle of the wall so much that they needed a part 2? HBO mandate?

Varys, are you taking over Illyrio completely? I wonder if we'll see him. That said, wiping out Aegon (mkay) and having Varys running the show on that side of the water is okay with me. I love me some Varys and he was invisible in Book 5 except the last scene. The swarmy look on his face when he said "who said anything about a him?" made me smile.

Why is Sansa crying? It almost looks like the traumatic thing that happens to her might not actually have been with/committed by Littlefinger. Or maybe he's consoling her afterwards. (going by the LF rape theory). Maybe someone tries to or does in fact assault her? Some other knight or lord of the Vale?

What's in the snake box?

Was that Maggie in the intro narration?

I didn't see Theon, Ramsay, or Bolton.

God, I'm getting verklempt, my shit is back yo. I missed these freaks - I knew I wouldn't be able to ignore this season as a book reader.

I think it's worth being spoiled to see Tyrion and Dani together, to be honest.
 

NeoGiff

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Sitting on those secret inside scoops again?

Trailer was really nice. I wish it had more Northern stuff, just because I'm really curious about Stannis/Boltons and there've really been no leaks out of those plots. Hopefully for trailer 2.

Yep, and they shall remain firmly sat on!
 

bengraven

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Their ultimate goal is to entertain. Sex appeal is huge. With Sophie Turner being 18-19 now, it wouldn't surprise me if they asked her to remove clothes or have some on-screen sex.

Man, I don't know about that.

I mean, as a guy who watched her from age 14 (I believe even younger in that first pilot shot in the first episode), this little waifish child who suddenly filled out in the last season, it almost makes me uncomfortable. I was explaining the Jean Grey thing to my wife, trying to explain how Jean ususally looked without describing Sophie...because it feels like someone you watched grow up. I don't think I'd want to see that.

I can imagine it would be 100x harder if you're D and D. This is like a little niece of yours.

I mean, it never stopped Boorman. I remember listening to the Excalibur commentary and there's the first queen, full nude astride Pendradon's in disguise and fucking away and there's Boorman, casually: "this is my daughter...".

Yep, and they shall remain firmly sat on!

Oh come on!

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Zingerale

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I'm guessing they're going to cut Young Griff from the show. Also there was no lady stone heart in the trailer so I'm getting worried. Probably no Kevan Lannister either.
 

Kyougar

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Man, I don't know about that.

I mean, as a guy who watched her from age 14 (I believe even younger in that first pilot shot in the first episode), this little waifish child who suddenly filled out in the last season, it almost makes me uncomfortable. I was explaining the Jean Grey thing to my wife, trying to explain how Jean ususally looked without describing Sophie...because it feels like someone you watched grow up. I don't think I'd want to see that.

I can imagine it would be 100x harder if you're D and D. This is like a little niece of yours.

I mean, it never stopped Boorman. I remember listening to the Excalibur commentary and there's the first queen, full nude astride Pendradon's in disguise and fucking away and there's Boorman, casually: "this is my daughter...".

I binge watched the Sopranos over several months and it was very strange to see a Meadow sex scene in the last season. :(
 
I'm guessing they're going to cut Young Griff from the show. Also there was no lady stone heart in the trailer so I'm getting worried. Probably no Kevan Lannister either.

Oh, come on. Whether Lady Stoneheart is or isn't in (protip- she probably isn't) they weren't going to spoil her in the fucking trailer.
 

DKehoe

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So are we going to get an official release of the trailer anytime soon? They may as well now that bootlegs are getting out.
 
-I don't think fAegon is in either, but I disagree that this trailer confirms it because of Varys' line. In ADWD, Illyrio said to Tyrion that they (Varys & him) were backing Dany and he never mentionned Aegon. Varys is merely doing the same thing here. I still think Varys supporting Dany makes no sense and changes him into a man that has no plan.

-Jon is definitely going to Hardhome now, in Episode 8. Can't wait to see this, with the Night King and White Walkers.

-Happy to see that Kevan is now 100% back.

-I think the guy in the sand in Dorne is the captain that smuggled Jaime in Dorne. Obara had a line during her audition where she mentionned that "he paid" for what he did.

-Would have liked more North/Winterfell stuff. No Boltons. Only a quick shot of Theon. Same with Stannis. It's by far the best part of AFFC/ADWD, they better not screw up with this.
 
So are we going to get an official release of the trailer anytime soon? They may as well now that bootlegs are getting out.
I would think so, but perhaps they're content with waiting to air it this Sunday or even on Feb 8th before the special? Who knows.
 

_Ryo_

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I know this is A LOT to ask but is it possible to get a summary from all the known spoilers and changes from the book in S5 with spoiler tags. I'd list the ones I know so far but I'm on mobile.
 
Kevan has to be there. Varys coming back to get rid of Kevan is like Episode 10 stuff all the way.

I would be surprised with no Aegon. Especially because I see as Aegon's landfall and winning over some of the castles as start of the next chapter of the War for Iron Throne. I would expect to see that stuff in the TV show. Great excuse for some nice set pieces too.

We aren't getting Stoneheart. As much as that sucks, I have made my peace with that.
 
Have leaked trailers been against the TOS before? Just curious for my own future reference as leaked trailers have been posted a ton on GAF in the past >_>
 
Have leaked trailers been against the TOS before? Just curious for my own future reference as leaked trailers have been posted a ton on GAF in the past >_>
I'm not sure exactly where they stand - it's probably something that'll be determined on a case by case basis unlike, say, magazine scans which are prohibido. With respect to this one, it's a trailer that they played in theaters for a lot of people, and HBO doesn't seem intent on taking them down. If it was a trailer that was more dubiously sourced (e.g. someone stole a copy from the editing room), then we probably wouldn't allow it. Regarding the thread that went up earlier, I just don't see a need for a new thread until we have a clean copy from HBO. If you have any more questions, please let me know.

Same comment as she made before on twitter, right? It's not on the 2015 schedule as of now.
 

Kuraudo

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To play devil's advocate, not being scheduled for this year doesn't mean it won't release this year. It just means that the publishers are as clueless as everyone else as to when Martin will actually finish the book. But when he does, you can bet his publisher will have the book edited and in bookstores within about two to three months.


However, with that said, I'm not expecting it this year. I'm not expecting it any year. When it's ready, the announcement will come out of nowhere, like it did with ADwD. It's nearly been four years since that book was released. It'd be nice to think that we're closer to TWoW's release than we are from ADwD's, but honestly even hoping for that could lead to disappointment.
 

Moff

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I would be surprised with no Aegon.

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after the varys quote in that trailer, it's clear that Aegon will not be on the show. it was speculated before by many. and in my opinion, it's a huge plus, I think he was a terrible plot device and hope he dies very soon in the books, too.
 
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after the varys quote in that trailer, it's clear that Aegon will not be on the show. it was speculated before by many. and in my opinion, it's a huge plus, I think he was a terrible plot device and hope he dies very soon in the books, too.

He's a very odd plot device to me. It feels like at some point during the writing, even George started to get mad that Dany wasn't close to coming back to Westeros so he just made another 'Targaryen' to fill that role for now. I have just been assuming Dany is going to off him as soon as they meet.
 
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