It's not a shitty image, it's a great image, and they were entertaining. The best chapters in the book after Theon. It was so nice to have things finally go wrong for her. And then it went wrong everywhere. Her freed cities are in chaos and the people she left behind hate her for not coming to their aid. The people following her hate her for not letting them in the city. The people of Meereen hate her. Her allies are betraying her. Her dragons are eating kids and have to be chained up. She's under siege. A pirate army is coming to steal her dragons.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 6 Offseason Thread
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It's not a shitty image, it's a great image, and they were entertaining. The best chapters in the book after Theon. It was so nice to have things finally go wrong for her. And then it went wrong everywhere. Her freed cities are in chaos and the people she left behind hate her for not coming to their aid. The people following her hate her for not letting them in the city. The people of Meereen hate her. Her allies are betraying her. Her dragons are eating kids and have to be chained up. She's under siege. A pirate army is coming to steal her dragons.
Basileus777
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Those are all shitty reductionist images that ruin even the valid points that might be made by using such a terrible method.
Nah, they're good and funny and make excellent points.
bengraven
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To be honest, I think some of the story would be helped by "bunches" of chapters.
When you have so many povs all across the world it sucks to pick up one story sometimes (a lot of times) hundreds of pages later. You lose some of your investment. Instead, do three chapters together of different POVs in the same area.
I think this is the #1 thing that hurt the last two books.
When you have so many povs all across the world it sucks to pick up one story sometimes (a lot of times) hundreds of pages later. You lose some of your investment. Instead, do three chapters together of different POVs in the same area.
I think this is the #1 thing that hurt the last two books.
That is because it is full of lies. None of that stuff has actually happened in the book yet.
Moff
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very similiar to the equivalent stannis image
but hey, you have to rely on your wishful dreams for TWOW when ADWD was such a mediocre and boring book
dany had 2 challenges in ADWD, the siege and the harpies, and it was a very good decision to focus on one and cut the other
and the harpies are the much more interesting one, especially when you consider the topic of the book, which was to show the struggles of being a leader, for several POV characters
The image is about the build up. It says Barristan may have met his match. A new suitor may be able to save her. It doesn't say these things are currently happening. They're about to happen. The anticipation and build up of the battle is vastly superior to the nothingness of her garbage story on Season 5.
waveuponwave
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The concept was good, her conquest had been far too easy, so letting her face the consequences of her actions was great.
How she reverted to a lovestruck teenager fawning for Daario was just too much for me. And it didn't help that for all of GRRM'S tries to flesh out Slaver's bay, it still feels like an over the top caricature of the Orient.
What we really lack is an Essosi POV to ground all that stuff
Cornballer
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They usually run trailers on premiere nights in a bit of cross promotion, so I'd expect to see it then. Late for a trailer, but they seemingly aren't having the much trouble garnering press and buzz in the off season so far.
Well, the Jaime and Loras ones are pretty good.
biosnake20
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We usually get it in January so i'm expecting it late this month.
Exterminieren
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It's all about to happen... in the next book, that we're getting in 20XX. In the meantime, here's Daenarys lusting after one of the series' most one-note characters and interacting with various characterless, interchangeable people, and Tyrion going on an utterly uninteresting journey, stripped of all the characteristics that made him slightly interesting and interacting with characters that, Jorah aside, you're given absolutely no reason at all to care about. In terms of Essos, ADWD is all sizzle, no steak, and is overwritten to hell and back- trimming back all that to the essentials is exactly what GRRM should have done himself.
Aside from all that- even given GOT's relatively enormous budget and relatively expansive runtime, it's not going to be able to adequately depict the siege of Meereen as depicted in the books. Cutting it down to the Sons of the Harpy and bolstering their impact while saving the cash for other, more interesting setpieces like Hardhome was far, far, FAR away the better idea, even if you can quibble about how some of it was pulled off.
I'll agree that Tyrion in ADWD was dull and should have been cut entirely. You never ever believed it when he was in danger. The show did a good job there.
Terrible one with Meereen. Her being crazy and unlikable (Examples: Her having a huge issue about needing to have a trial then burning a person to death 2 episodes later without a trial. Making a braindead decision to have a public execution at the worst possible time) was as annoying as her fawning over Dario. Dany, the character, is lame in the book and lame in the show. Yet Meereen was an intriguing clusterfuck in the books. Pretty boring in the show. The show gave us a embarrassingly bad hissing scene, Barristan dying a pointless death in an alley, Dany forcing a guy to marry her against his will which appeared to solve all of her problems until episode 9, and Grey Worm romance.
We've had a big awesome battle last season. There's no reason why we can't have one this season. I haven't read spoilers so I don't know if there is one. Don't tell me. I would prefer the next battle to something in Meereen with a different setting involving dragons and pirates and Dany, Tyrion, and Jorah.
Everything leading up to the battle could be done without needing to see anything - the way the show was already doing Meereen. Advisors coming to Dany telling her how fucked up everything is getting. That's mostly what I would want to see. Their reactions to everything going wrong and figuring out what the hell to do. That would have been more entertaining than Dany's story the past season.
I mean, just compare where the book is right now to where the show is right now.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KeMMtYi2Vk Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVJa4Fl34l4 Book
How can anyone not think the book is in a better place?
biosnake20
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Quick glimpse of Jamie in the new season.
Looks like he is Kings Landing with Tyrell soldiers behind him.
Steelyuhas
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Cpt.Underpants
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Anyone knows the song that's playing on that trailer?
Oberyn Martell possesses Jon's body...leading to Oberyn Vs The Mountain Round 2?
That was a great scene though. Silly to leave Grey Worm "In charge" though.
Wonder if they'll give Tyrion Barriston's speech.
Dash_Riprock
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So with Varys in Meereen, who will be the one who kills Kevan?
Shuggananas
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they probably retconned kevan's existence
Sickboy007
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If there is no Aegon, there is no need for Varys to deliver the final blow, and his speech. If he still is to die, the little birds can kill him and a quick cut to Varys would be all that's needed to show who's responsible.
bodyofanamerican
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Yep. Also, they could still have him show up in KL (maybe he leaves Tyrion high and dry in Meereen during the siege) to off Kevan to clear the way for Dany instead of Aegon?
Rand0m TAG
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not really on topic but how are the books wheel of time? does it compare to game of thrones? getting tired of waiting for the book and want to read something else
Cornballer
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Set locations were spied on a lot during shooting days.
I've seen pictures of a Meereen scene that was described as farewell between Tyrion and Varys, the latter leaving while Tyrion has to deal with the consequences as Meereen is under siege.
I've found a link describing the scene but still can't find the direct source I initially learned about it: http://www.hngn.com/articles/136818...ilers-tyrion-deals-with-famine-in-meereen.htm
Kevan was in the S5 finale..
So does this mean we're getting
the Battle of Meereen
That would be my guess though it may be jammed into season 6. Some guesswork and extrapolations from circulating spoilers:
Meereen is under siege, famine and disease are pressing concerns. Daenerys needs Drogon to start up a BBQ and convert Dothraki to registered Democrats at which point, she returns to Mereen commanding the Dothraki army to break the siege on Meereen.
Battle of Meereen
ToyMachine228
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Really hoping we get a full trailer here sometime soon. The lack of Song of Ice and Fire/Game of Thrones news since the last season has been disheartening. No new theories to discuss or dig up, nothing.
Cornballer
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- ComingSoon.net: Game of Thrones Season 5 Blu-ray and DVD Announced
Set details via the link.
Cornballer
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Yeah, just saw those pop up. No S6 footage or anything.
Here are direct links:
- "Winterfell is mine"
- "Queen of nothing"
- "Together we can overthrow an empire"
Here are direct links:
- "Winterfell is mine"
- "Queen of nothing"
- "Together we can overthrow an empire"
Moff
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jonathan pryce, the highsparrow
Steelyuhas
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High Sparrow (Jonathan Pryce)
bodyofanamerican
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Ugh, Ramsay.
Oh interesting.
We are getting these houses' banners voiced over by the people who brought them down, or in the case of Dany the one who will bring her down this season I guess, so... either the Tyrells and the Vale win the iron throne or they will barely appear this season.
I really hope not, specially for the Tyrells, I don't want them to just forget how big of a deal is that Margeary and Loras are imprisoned.
I've made peace with the fact the show runners swear they have fleshed out an awesome villain for some strange reason because I'm sure it will be all the focus this season.
We are getting these houses' banners voiced over by the people who brought them down, or in the case of Dany the one who will bring her down this season I guess, so... either the Tyrells and the Vale win the iron throne or they will barely appear this season.
I really hope not, specially for the Tyrells, I don't want them to just forget how big of a deal is that Margeary and Loras are imprisoned.
I've made peace with the fact the show runners swear they have fleshed out an awesome villain for some strange reason because I'm sure it will be all the focus this season.
Oh interesting.
We are getting these houses' banners voiced over by the people who brought them down, or in the case of Dany the one who will bring her down this season I guess, so... either the Tyrells and the Vale win the iron throne or they will barely appear this season.
I really hope not, specially for the Tyrells, I don't want them to just forget how big of a deal is that Margeary and Loras are imprisoned.
I've made peace with the fact the show runners swear they have fleshed out an awesome villain for some strange reason because I'm sure it will be all the focus this season.
I don't think you need to worry about the Tyrells. The promo shot of Jaime a few posts back loaded with Tyrell soldiers definitely implies a major role for them.
bodyofanamerican
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Ugh. Yep, exactly. Book Ramsay was such a good fucking villain, and one of my "favorite" (read: most creepy and compelling) characters. Show Ramsay is like the showrunners tried to clone Joff with none of Jack Gleason's charisma.
The Dothraki one is brilliant. I forgot how guttural and threatening it sounds, and whoever is talking has good delivery.
The Lannister one was ok, I guess.
The Winterfell one pissed me off, because once more D&D are proclaiming their undying love for a "badass" bastard no one else likes.
The Lannister one was ok, I guess.
The Winterfell one pissed me off, because once more D&D are proclaiming their undying love for a "badass" bastard no one else likes.
Steelyuhas
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You are aware it's very unlikely David & Dan are hands on with marketing teasers from the network?
Agreed the Dothraki one is the best though, I'd kind of forgotten how badass the dothraki dialect sounds.
You are aware it's very unlikely David & Dan are hands on with marketing teasers from the network?
Agreed the Dothraki one is the best though, I'd kind of forgotten how badass the dothraki dialect sounds.
I am aware, but the direction his character has taken, and hence that line in the teaser, can be traced back to them
biosnake20
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The Dothraki one is so good.
Pyramid head
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In the book, Ramsay is a chubby weirdo who likes to torment the weak and vulnerable. In the show, he's an invincible tactical genius, with a crack squad of good men (each of which is also an invincible, invisible and silent ninja), and who's bare chested presence alone us enough to strike terror into thr hearts of even the most fearsome Ironborn and takes on an entire army wearing only a leather jerkin.
WaffleTaco
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I still love Ramsay...the show needs a psycho and once Ramsay dies...I really hope Euron can fill his place.
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