Can he see the future?
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harriet the spy
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Probably. Even then it wouldn't make a lick of sense.
I bet this is a show-only change and in the books there MUST be a weirwood tree present to see the past. Honestly it doesn't really make sense otherwise. How could Weirwood trees be connected to Dorne, even in a magical sense? I always believed that Bran would learn about Jon's parentage through seeing the wedding between Lyanna and Rheagar in front of a Weirwood tree (maybe the Isle of Faces).
The last TWoW preview chapter was over 14 months ago yeaaaaa
I doubt it. All of the prophecy regarding future events in the show seem to be projected from a source that is well informed and can give warnings about what may come to pass, but doesn't know specifics. Otherwise those visions would be a lot more specific.
He is the three-eyed raven now and I guess he could see in the future, at least in a limited way.
Praetorpwj
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Are we sure that Ellaria is done; still alive in a cell could she get some Cercei payback?
Chuckie
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Actress said she is done
They wanted rid of dorne asap
Dude what tv show have you been watching?
Yes, and I still think that might be the reason why they chose that scene. The writing is more about a semblance of logic rather than actual logic.
Oldest Snake
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After Jaime's scene with Olenna at the end of the last episode I guess we can expect his turn on Cersei to be sudden & immediate as it was with the Mad King rather than a slow burn where he begins to realise what she's become.
Far too strong a vibe of 'when you see what she really is it will be too late for you' to make me think Jaime will live much longer than Cersei. I'm guessing she's going to go Mad King 2.0 with the wildfire which Jaime will kill her to stop, but will be too late. We 'know' the Red Keep has to go up at some point, since it's all burned up in Dany's House of the Undying vision (a show replacement of the book scenes that depicted the Red Wedding) and it was snowing in those visions, which is pretty timely.
Far too strong a vibe of 'when you see what she really is it will be too late for you' to make me think Jaime will live much longer than Cersei. I'm guessing she's going to go Mad King 2.0 with the wildfire which Jaime will kill her to stop, but will be too late. We 'know' the Red Keep has to go up at some point, since it's all burned up in Dany's House of the Undying vision (a show replacement of the book scenes that depicted the Red Wedding) and it was snowing in those visions, which is pretty timely.
I think because Bran can see the entire past and present he is more God-like and detached from people. His relationship with Sansa is small beans compared to everything he now knows. I don't think he can see the future though.
It snowed in Winterfell (in late fall) and Ramsay raped her on the wedding night to consummate the marriage. You don't need to be the tree eyed raven for that
He should have chosen something less creepy.
Bran has the green sight. He can see the future. Remember Jojen Reed saw his death in the future and Jojen only had green dreams. Bran is way more gifted and more powerful than jojen.
Latvian Hitman
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Spoilers for the whole season leaked months ago. We should always beware...
we'll be-extra-ware since the actual episode is out there in the ether
DKehoe
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Yeh, I took it to be that Bran is now operating on another level of consciousness that makes it hard for him to relate to normal people so that's why he seems distant.
what the hell did they do to Bran...
he was normal just on the otherside of the wall.
they should have shown some progression
he was normal just on the otherside of the wall.
they should have shown some progression
Latvian Hitman
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Ah- sorry. Misread your original post. Episode leaked from the recent hack, I presume?
Progression?
"Ain't nobody got time for 'dat."
Actually it seems an HBO subsidiary in India leaked it? That's what I read anyway not sure how accurate that information is
Latvian Hitman
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Wow. What an awful week for the people at HBO....
SargerusBR
I love Pokken!
The episode itself is leaked on torrent trackers.
DKehoe
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Yeh its a weird one. Maybe that was a choice made by the director of that episode? Unless maybe they are going to have it that him being on the other side of the wall is having an effect.
John Dunbar
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let's see if he meets bran
The whole Bran thing is such a mess. He's not entirely robot, he says to Sansa he is sorry about what happened, so he obviously cares, but the whole scene was a mess (pretty much like anything related to Sansa's wedding to Ramsay), I don't know if the problem is the acting or the writing, maybe both? but it's not like the writing gives much room of improvement, specially for a kid actor
but it's not like the writing gives much room of improvement, specially for a kid actor The whole Bran thing is such a mess. He's not entirely robot, he says to Sansa he is sorry about what happened, so he obviously cares, but the whole scene was a mess (pretty much like anything related to Sansa's wedding to Ramsay), I don't know if the problem is the acting or the writing, maybe both?
He's not a good actor, but there wasn't much to act in that scene anyway. So definitely both.
moltonasty
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I don't really see how the scene was a mess. Bran is basically GoT Doctor Manhattan now...he's seen so much shit that he can't relate to these mere mortals. He seems cold and indifferent now cuz he has more important shit to worry about, basically.
Why would that make hims say she looks beautiful though
Or that he is sorry?
Because he's lost his social skills due to his situation. I admit the scene was heavy handed and would have benefited from a bonus scene at the wall that showed bran acting that way with edd to make it a better transition.
I thought the scene worked better the second time I watched it
moltonasty
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My take was that he's so disconnected from reality is that he doesn't even realize how weird he sounds. It's just his live commentary as he replays the events of that night in his mind, I guess.
Because it's still his sister, and he is actually sorry that she got raped? Why is that confusing?
Atraveller
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Been in Tanzania for the past two weeks, didn't catch up until now.
But Braavos, descendants of escaped slaves invested in slave trade? Come on. Could have not bring up the Bank stpry line at all.
Bran's speech was baaad.
Magical Greyscale cure is yet another proof of adaption without plan, resulting in wasted time and regressed character development.
But, I still find this episode good, packed with strong moments.
I suppose if illogic (20 good teleporting ships) was used to tie up some really bad loose ends (Sand Snakes), it's actually fine.
But Braavos, descendants of escaped slaves invested in slave trade? Come on. Could have not bring up the Bank stpry line at all.
Bran's speech was baaad.
Magical Greyscale cure is yet another proof of adaption without plan, resulting in wasted time and regressed character development.
But, I still find this episode good, packed with strong moments.
I think it's obvious he wanted to give Sansa proof he indeed sees everything, which is why it would have to be something personal only she knows, which is why he mentions her wedding dress and how beautiful she looked, this is information no one alive really knows. Edit: Except Theon I guess but there is no way Bran could have met Theon.
But again, it failed at excecution, now Bran is a meme with the first line bring something awful or awkward and the second line being "it was beautiful".
But again, it failed at excecution, now Bran is a meme with the first line bring something awful or awkward and the second line being "it was beautiful".
LegendofLex
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He's probably in this weird state of mind where he's seen terrible things, but also has some foreknowledge about how those terrible things are part of a chain of events that he and his kin need to participate in to succeed against their existential threat.
And so as a result he's less connected from empathizing with people over those terrible things.
Does it matter?
EDIT: Of course they didn't recognize him, they were probably still in elementary school the last time he stopped by his publisher's office to deliver something.
Bran is changed, all of them are changed just some in more dramatic ways than others. I certainly think the way Bran gained all of the Three Eyed Raven's knowledge in such a short time caused him serious harm because the previous Three Eyed Raven wasn't so emotionally cold. This is the type of thing that George was likely talking about that the ending would be bittersweet, the reuniting of the Starks is not exactly how we'd imagined and it wasn't in the cards after all that is happened to them.
Only if he uses her confession to absolve Sansa, Tyrion, Littlefinger, or whoever else they might suspect.
Atraveller
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I suppose Dany's Dothraki is fine for now, Greyjoys haven't found a way for ships to sail on land.
Only Sansa would get off the hook, but even then Cersei despises her and she is in open rebellion so her head is still wanted. I guess the same goes for Little finger.
Now even if Tyrion is absolved he still killed Tywin anyway.
So yeah it doesn't matter anyway, Cersei wants all their heads.
You're looking for deeper meaning from D&D. You're wasting your time.
Woah. I thought he wasn't on twitter.