cubicle47b
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I think we're way past that point. That's not to say that certain events won't ever be similar in the books (if they are ever released) like how Hodor got his name.
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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO
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Human Trashcan
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I just watched all of Narcos, which was really good, and tangentially related in that Pedro Pascal (Oberyn) is great on that show and it reminded me of when GoT was still good as well.
Red Arremer
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Dany did accomplish something though - she liberated Slaver's Bay (for the most part at least). Her warfare against the Ghiscari led to a destabilization of the region, and could have potentially been an interesting situation where her death would lead to a power vacuum that political factions in Essos (Volantis, Illyrio, the Dothraki, Qarth) could have been shown trying to take advantage of, leading to a situation of war similar to what was going on in Westeros. And of course it would set the 3 dragons free.
Furthermore, if Dany had been, say, assassinated by the Sons of the Harpy, she could have become a martyr for especially the followers of the Lord of Light, which could have kicked off civil war in the parts of the world where slavery is practiced. With the guidance of the red priests, Essos could have become an alliance of various city states banding together and trying to fight off the Long Night by supporting the Wall.
Or, for all we know, the Others north of the Wall are just one variation of them, and the Grey Waste in Essos is another location where the Long Night struck.
The White Walkers and their army are very, very slow. It is known.
Honestly, I expect a major anticlimax. Face it, there's no way they're going to have the WW's attack in force before the war with Cersei is dealt with because the Wight army would just wash over the North. I fully expect them to get to assault of the Army of the Dead in the last two or three episodes.
Hell, I don't even think the White Walkers will show up again this season until the last episode where (trailer spoilers)
the Northerlings will try to hold them back with Dondarrion and The Hound and fail, probably.
Puck Beaverton
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Jaime's cousin was pointless.
-botching the introduction of stannis
season 2 has a great ending but it's a very uneven season of television. I do think this series will get a critical reevaluation once it finishes
Red Arremer
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Littlefinger already was Lord of the Riverlands and Vale though (the latter at least temporarily). The only thing I could have seen working for your scenario would be if he would marry Sansa upon liberating Winterfell from the Boltons or Stannis, and gain the North that way. It kind of would suit with Baelish having the hots for her, but I'm not sure how he would've expected to get Sansa to marry him willingly, keep the Vale loyal, and consolidate his power in the Riverlands, which are basically anarchy right now.
Jeyne Westerling was a stupid plot line too. *shrug*
The North has a lot of men and strength, and the Lannisters had their forces spread out between the Westerlands and King's Landing.
Can't disagree with that.
Eh, Vargo Hoat was a shitty character anyway.
He was funny and had an actual personality unlike whoever they replaced him with
Red Arremer
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Funny? Why? Because he had a lisp? Otherwise, he was just another cruel asshole. Having Lannister people take his place is perfectly fine, because they already had so many cruel assholes running around anyway.
The Locke character was a weird choice, but I guess they wanted to have someone capable of being sent to the Wall and bridging the connection between it and the Boltons without having to introduce the Umber brothers or the Karstark characters.
Latvian Hitman
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He didn't need to marry Sansa (though I'm sure he would have liked that), nor did he need any support from the Northern houses. He got Cersei to pretty much agree to make him Warden of the North by way of royal decree if things had played out the way he was hoping: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-lcx8gAM6wM
cj_iwakura
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I mean officially with the synopsis and all.
Ocarina_117
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I really liked the Jeyne Westerling story.
I see it as a far reaching impact of Ned bringing Jon to winterfell. It was always a stain on the reputation of the honourable Ned Stark. Robb wanted to avoid dishonouring Jeyne after a moment of weakness.
It was a big part of Robb's downfall. It being the result of Tywin's scheming makes it great also.
I see it as a far reaching impact of Ned bringing Jon to winterfell. It was always a stain on the reputation of the honourable Ned Stark. Robb wanted to avoid dishonouring Jeyne after a moment of weakness.
It was a big part of Robb's downfall. It being the result of Tywin's scheming makes it great also.
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cj_iwakura
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Another failing of the show was killing her off.
Bran will whisperer "You know nothing" as he watches the incestuous act.
Red Arremer
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A title means nothing if you can't enforce it. Littlefinger is nominally the Lord of the Riverlands, but he holds absolutely no power there. Cersei is nominally the Queen of the Seven Kingdoms, but only a few are obeying her.
If Littlefinger were named Warden of the North by Cersei, but wouldn't have the support of the Northern houses, then what good would being Warden of the North be? In fact, if Littlefinger were named Warden of the North but had absolutely no control or power over it, he would look weak.
Bran: "Jon it's good to see you again."
Jon: "I can't believe you're alive! This is such a happy day!"
Bran: "Happy, yes."
Jon: "Let me introduce you to Dany, Queen of the Seven Kingdoms."
Bran: "You know nothing Jon Snow, you're the legitimate son of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark. You are the true King of Westeros."
Jon: "You mean I just fucked my aunt?"
Ocarina_117
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Ima need Jon to drop 'we really are the last of Targs.'
elrechazado
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Bran: "Yes, you just fucked your Aunt."
Jon: "But I'm a Targaryen, right."
Bran: "Right."
*sex music resumes*
That works too. Full circle. If Bran lived in the Eyrie all of this could have been avoided.
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It's like poetry.
Yep and it was all part of the plot Tywin set out.
I know we're joking but I could totally see Bran flying through a tower window to witness incest.
Ocarina_117
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You know I can already imagine Jaimie saying 'The things we do for love' if he kills Cersei.
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She doesn't have a dragon egg to pay for one.
And then he lives happily ever after with Brienne and Tormund gets Jorah'd.
Ocarina_117
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The higher born/ more difficult a target the higher I price I believe.
They wanted more money than the seven kingdoms had to kill Dany in season 1. Iirc.
Ok, well at least that makes sense.
LOL'd hard .
And then Dany pulls her face off to reveal it's Ed Sheeran.
Ocarina_117
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GRRM's original transcript for the series seems so odd in hindsight. Jon - Arya - Tyrion love triangle, Jaimie wanting the iron throne, Catelyn fleeing north of the wall (which she still could do to).
Catelyn fleeing for Jons help would have been great.
The rest of that sounds like the kind of garbage we could expect from D&D.
Ocarina_117
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https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&s...sg=AFQjCNHsLT3PPDXkb_dxMb_BSACIVZMfcQ&cf=1
It's an interesting read!
Lol
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Honestly the way GRRM writes, it could have been amazing.
So the 5 are most likely making it through the story.
Moff
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Dany actually died in the manticore attack.
Everything after that is just her dream in the last moments of her life, it will end as soon as she sits the iron throne. She dies and we'll see what really happened in that time.
Barristan never went to Essos and couldn't save her because Joffrey was a just and beloved ruler whose legacy lasted a thousand peaceful generations.
Cpt.Underpants
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Love the back and forth retort by both Jon and Dany when they first met. Been waiting for these character meetups and reunions for a long while in the books. Despite being in opposing sides its very fluid, there's chemistry.
The line when dany said to jon "you better get to work jon snow" was very sincere. And the musical instrument (violin? cello?) that plays when dany allows jon to mine the dragon glass was on point. Seems like a theme for both of them.
was on a 2 week holidy
The line when dany said to jon "you better get to work jon snow" was very sincere. And the musical instrument (violin? cello?) that plays when dany allows jon to mine the dragon glass was on point. Seems like a theme for both of them.
was on a 2 week holidy
cj_iwakura
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Trying to imagine the story that way is super bizarre indeed.
Joffery on a battlefield, Tyrion besieging winterfell, Jamie killing his way through his family... No.
Dany on the run from the Dothraki and Bran playing with magic to fix his legs are a little cheesy but not so bad.