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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO
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So, hold on:
1. Tyrion witnesses Jaime charging Drogon, after which he must make one of two plausible observations, given the circumstances;
a. Jaime was incinerated
b. Jaime drowned
2. Tyrion makes no further reference to this event at all, until;
3. Tyrion knows Jaime is not only alive and well, but that he is also back safely in King's Landing at Cersei's side despite the events that he has seen unfold, because the plot now demands that the two characters meet to set the next chain of events in motion.
Just... what?!
Edit: Of course, Tyrion could also have guessed Jaime somehow survived, but despite this actually happening, it stretches credibility to a ridiculous degree if we're looking at things from a character level regarding Tyrion. If we accept that he did guess that Jaime survived, that doesn't account for Jaime and Bronn pulling a Vorenus and Pullo and being the only two survivors/escapees of a disaster with no one following up on their whereabouts.
1. Tyrion witnesses Jaime charging Drogon, after which he must make one of two plausible observations, given the circumstances;
a. Jaime was incinerated
b. Jaime drowned
2. Tyrion makes no further reference to this event at all, until;
3. Tyrion knows Jaime is not only alive and well, but that he is also back safely in King's Landing at Cersei's side despite the events that he has seen unfold, because the plot now demands that the two characters meet to set the next chain of events in motion.
Just... what?!
Edit: Of course, Tyrion could also have guessed Jaime somehow survived, but despite this actually happening, it stretches credibility to a ridiculous degree if we're looking at things from a character level regarding Tyrion. If we accept that he did guess that Jaime survived, that doesn't account for Jaime and Bronn pulling a Vorenus and Pullo and being the only two survivors/escapees of a disaster with no one following up on their whereabouts.
hydrophilic attack
Member
yeah that was pretty fucking dumb
walnutthewise
Member
I hope the show doesn't lose that Game of Thrones twistyness that led to Ned's death and the Res Wedding. They've gathered a rocking crew for fighting white walkers. It would be an awesome turnaround if they somehow all get turned with the full conversion treatment and become Others.
Discotheque
Banned
It was alright. Felt pretty stupid to grab Gendry (an internet favorite) and then all of those dudes at the end. That whole segment felt like very on the nose fanservice.
they basically grabbed the Game of Thrones Magnificent Seven for one big mission for the season finale lmao. how the hell did the Dothraki/Danerys not wait for Jamie and Bronn to resurface to capture them? it would only be a few minutes. No idea why Littlefinger is even being allowed to breathe and wander the halls scheming in Winterfell tbh haha. No sense there.
Sam Tarly scenes are so boring and make me want to change the channel.
Like its fun, but if we're gonna be this lazy with the writing just give us some swordfights or some shit every episode now. Oh well, was fun to see things progress so quick, but I wish they put a little more effort into writing this show as they do with the fantastic production design.
And Davos is always great in here at least.
they basically grabbed the Game of Thrones Magnificent Seven for one big mission for the season finale lmao. how the hell did the Dothraki/Danerys not wait for Jamie and Bronn to resurface to capture them? it would only be a few minutes. No idea why Littlefinger is even being allowed to breathe and wander the halls scheming in Winterfell tbh haha. No sense there.
Sam Tarly scenes are so boring and make me want to change the channel.
Like its fun, but if we're gonna be this lazy with the writing just give us some swordfights or some shit every episode now. Oh well, was fun to see things progress so quick, but I wish they put a little more effort into writing this show as they do with the fantastic production design.
And Davos is always great in here at least.
Indeed, or Bronn would be the mastermind behind this and initiated contact with Tyrion via some unknown channel.
I think it was more that they were bastards, and not Baratheons and thus not heirs to the throne more than anything else.
This is starting to feel like a fansite has taken over the writing, will we ever get another "the good guys get fucked up" moment like the RW? probably not.
Martin hates tropes (especially the LOTR "army of evil" one) yet the Others seem to have none of the ambiguity and mystery from the books since they stopped with the cool symbols etc...
We really are now in the Goodies v Baddies realm.
Also, seeing Gendry got me thinking, who is in charge in the Stormlands now? so many Great Houses are wiped out, Martell, Tyrell, Baratheon, Tully (wtf is Edmure?), Frey...
At this rate Danny's most eligible match for King would be a Fossway or Manderly.
Martin hates tropes (especially the LOTR "army of evil" one) yet the Others seem to have none of the ambiguity and mystery from the books since they stopped with the cool symbols etc...
We really are now in the Goodies v Baddies realm.
Also, seeing Gendry got me thinking, who is in charge in the Stormlands now? so many Great Houses are wiped out, Martell, Tyrell, Baratheon, Tully (wtf is Edmure?), Frey...
At this rate Danny's most eligible match for King would be a Fossway or Manderly.
My bet is on Beric or one of the other guys hes with that isnt the Hound.
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
So Cersei ain't really pregnant, is she?
This is obviously a ploy to keep Jaime around
This is obviously a ploy to keep Jaime around
I was just thinking this =)
This does seem a little dumb. But we can suppose that Tyrion told Dany it was Jaime who charged her, and that they needed the Dothraki to pull up bodies from the river or whatever and check to see if he drowned or escaped. If they can't find the body then he probably escaped. Alternatively they could have added a scene where Varys says some of his remaining informants confirmed that Jaime returned or something. It's a bit of sloppy writing but we can plausibly think of ways that Tyrion could have learned Jaime was alive off-camera
Maintenance
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Her make up and the way she was lit for that scene was immediate and definitive confirmation for the Dany/Jon romance. I was rolling my eyes before they even got started.
And he's gonna make that exact stupid face when he finds out about the Targeryan thing too.
Mulling it over, developments in Wintefell and with The Fellowship of Let's Go Capture a Zombie are still really, really dumb. However, I appreciate a degree of uncertainty being back in the show. The first 4 or so episodes felt like scenes that had to happen beat by beat and no one was having any fun, except Sam. This is more like it, even if it is flimsy, but when hasn't it been?
It's fucking Gendry with a fucking hammer! Holy shit. All that rowing must have given him some muscles.
Also, fuck Dany. I really hope she dies by the end of the series, she doesn't deserve to be a Queen. I actually felt bad for Dickon. She's really the most stupid character in the entire series.
Next episode should be hype.
Also, fuck Dany. I really hope she dies by the end of the series, she doesn't deserve to be a Queen. I actually felt bad for Dickon. She's really the most stupid character in the entire series.
Next episode should be hype.
Maintenance
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It's like people want everyone dead.
There won't be many casualities anymore guys. I would wager to say that there won't be many in the books too.
Everything comes together and there are almost no episodes left. People also want their merchandise and the memes. And it's not bad at all. People don't have to die all the time to raise the stakes or show that the people (that we think are the heroes which they aren't, there are no heroes in this show) lose agian.
Honor and shame are huge parts of the Westerosi culture (I'm an expert).
WhereAreMahDragonz
Banned
Dickon was a total hunk 
A waste tbh
A waste tbh
Huh, I just remembered reading about some interview with Martin where he said people resurrected by the red priests are still technically dead or something. Like the blood doesn't flow in their bodies or something. So would the Night King be able to control Jon and Beric? Probably not, from a storytelling perspective how in the hell would they escape if that were the case but it's an interesting possibility
peanutbutterlatte
Member
They've gone over the Wall with a skeleton crew of men into incredibly dangerous territory to capture one of those creatures that never travels alone only in horrifically overwhelming horses, and you think we won't get a moment where they fuck up?
broncobuster
Banned
Having all those cool characters on a squad is a double edged sword. If only the red shirt wildlings die, then it's kinda bullshit. Show is already going too far with plot armor.
Of course Arya got played with that Dexter level stalking 😂
Things are moving fast. Tyrion meeting Jaimie and getting Gendry all on one episode. Mormont arriving and leaving.
If the books ever come out.
I would like to read Mormont's travel to Westeros. Tyron and Davos going to King's Landing. Maybe chapters of Sam's book preserving days
That ending looks like a Magnificent Seven movie
Things are moving fast. Tyrion meeting Jaimie and getting Gendry all on one episode. Mormont arriving and leaving.
If the books ever come out.
I would like to read Mormont's travel to Westeros. Tyron and Davos going to King's Landing. Maybe chapters of Sam's book preserving days
That ending looks like a Magnificent Seven movie
Dickon was a total hunk
A waste tbh
Watch Black Sails, he's a major character in it. At this point, Black Sails is a more consistent and better show anyway.
Dwight Schrute
Member
The jon + dragon thing PLUS the master scroll about raeghar annulment was so hammered down, it could have gone like "i foundz a scroll that says jonsnow targaryen confirmed WHAT DOES MEAN ?"
Dwight Schrute
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Well I guess its at least quite faithful to medieval europe history.
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
I this episode was this show's jumping the shark moment.
That happened in season 5.
Unpopular? Arya became a shit character after she set foot in Braavos.
She's horrible and the actress' performance doesn't help.
hydrophilic attack
Member
i asked a show-only friend, and he didn't catch onto the implications of the scroll
WaffleTaco
Wants to outlaw technological innovation.
Season 5 was bad, but not as bad this.
Nah, that happened in Season 6. Her Season 5 arc was fine.
demosthenes
Member
1000000% fake.
Spirit of Jazz
Banned
I think Dany's burning of the Tarly's would have been fine if she actually called Randall out on his bullshit. She didn't even make a point of saying that she was Westerosi born in front of the southern men, that the Targaryen rule was the most prosperous rule the kingdom had ever seen whilst many of the great old houses had already fallen in the Baratheon/Lannister reign, she didn't denounce the actions of her father whilst showing she was willing to build alliances with the families that rightfully put an end to him, and then there's the whole him being a turncloak and being alright aligning with a family who had her sister in law and nieces/nephews raped/murdered by The Mountain and being chill with Cersi blowing up The Great Scept along with the Tyrells and faith.
She could have even ended it by saying she wasn't destroying the house given Samwell and the Tarly women were unharmed.
She could have even ended it by saying she wasn't destroying the house given Samwell and the Tarly women were unharmed.
I was under the impression she was still a fan favorite.
I never liked her not even in the first season, Sansa was the girly one but Arya was the princess, the spoiled brat who did what she wanted, didn't respect anyone and was used to getting what she wanted because her father was top dog in the north.
And then for years others dragged her through Westeros, fighting for her, protecting her (sometimes for selfish reasons but they still did it) and she still acted like an entitled cow, it's ALL about her and her revenge and fuck being sensible or diplomatic or to see that Sansa didn't just have fun times in King's Landing until she rode into Winterfell on a bunch of pink ponies.
If she just stopped for a few minutes and listened instead of thinking she has it all figured out she would realize that Sansa is right but I doubt Arya lacks the brain capacity for that, it's all just me, me, me and stab, stab, stab in there.
John Dunbar
correct about everything
oh god this show is so horrible now. every episode that isn't focused on the spectacle just makes it all the more clear.
Black Sails of the middle of S1 to the end is leagues above, since it actually focuses on character building rather than plot points. Also being centered to a great actor helped.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Arya was a highlight in seasons one to five. And her actress was killing it
The writing of her character deteriorated a lot since then
The writing of her character deteriorated a lot since then
Discotheque
Banned
absolutely. Black Sails wiped the floor with this show on a quality perspective since its second season until it ended.
a lot of the political machinations and scheming badasses that this was known for, but better written and performed.
the moron tarly actually had a substantial role in the series too haha. and Toby Stephens' Flint was such a great performance and character to centre the show on. I always pictured his Captain Flint as perfect casting for Euron Greyjoy too tbh. looked pretty nice too with that location shooting, though Game of Thrones obviously has everything beat on that front. if nothing else this is still nice to look at .