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*UNMARKED SPOILERS ALL BOOKS* Game of Thrones |OT| - Season 7 - Sundays on HBO
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You were bored by leather on breastplates!?
Seriously, though, I liked this episode. Tyrion's narration was particular smart storytelling given that no one gives a shit up the Unsullied killing nameless soldiers.
chicken_pasta
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The Starks and the Vale are up North, way too busy with the army of the dead. There's no way they're going south to help Neurotic Dany and her dragons get the throne. No chance.
I don't think she'll have those dragons for long tbh. I'm willing to bet Euron's ships are now equipped with the bayonet-thing Qyburn created. This is a land of teleportation after all. Also, she basically doomed her whole Unsullied army and won next to nothing. Jaime had 3eyedraven'd this.
No one gives a poop about Sweet Robin.
Pretty much. Speed running to the ending... because of reasons. Euron's ships are an easy out, but if it was so important to the endgame, then they should have introduced him and established his strength ages ago.
WrenchNinja
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Jon and Dany's interactions are surprisingly good.
Also nice seeing Tyrion and Jon talking with each other again.
Also nice seeing Tyrion and Jon talking with each other again.
Because there's no one in the countryside to fight?
you don't just go to the vale, even the show established the murder alley as the only route to bring an army in.
BlueTsunami
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Isnt Dragonatone like, really far north. Its why Jon is meeting up with her. That march would take the horde very, very far.
Steelyuhas
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Yeah that situation was news to me when it was brought up in this thread recently. Kinda funny to see it happen after that knowledge.
Not crazy about Cersei's portrayal as a tactical genius after reading AFFC, but it makes a good foil for the final seasons of the show.
Jaime in name only is a bit of a disappointment as well.
Enjoyed the rest of the episode outside of Bran, who doesn't come across as mystical but just wooden.
Jaime in name only is a bit of a disappointment as well.
Enjoyed the rest of the episode outside of Bran, who doesn't come across as mystical but just wooden.
The point is that she can freely march/ride her army to Casterly Rock. Why even bothet going by sea?
I hope Cercei gets to murder Bronn. It doesn't even have to make sense in the story!
Marching is slow AF.
This is the classic make your plot-armored-as-fuck-hero appear weak to gain some unearned surprise victory. Cersei is getting the boot.
Dany asking Tyrion how things are going to go for the battle, after she's all ready sent the forces off. And Tyrion telling them all about his secret sewer entrance, as if that mightn't have been discussed prior.
I wouldn't call anything they've done smart, but I hope for entertaining. A few minutes of random soldiers dying signifying two castles having been taken did nothing for me.
Casterly Rock is straight West from Dragonstone/King's Landing. Daeny has marched nearly 10 times that distance in season 1 alone.
Bran gave up Winterfell but he took the Worst Actor crown.
It's winter so they wouldn't be in the Eyrie.
And I'm not saying full force attack, but a kidnapping of the Lord of the Vale would force half of Jon's forces to return back to the fold.
Latvian Hitman
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Winning what? Her little war against Cersei? She's absolutely going to win that. I know this because she's currently losing badly. That's how it works in the show and the books. Whoever jumps out of the gate winning is pretty much doomed.
Spirit of Jazz
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This is all just warp drive fanfic and that's okay.
they have discussed that several times these first few episodes. it's what dany considered doing originally. she was talked out of it, because having hordes of dothraki raping and pillaging and killing would push support to Cersei as she's trying to use the 'invading savages' angle and nobody knows anything about Dany.
an army of dothraki and unsullied marching across the lands would pretty much support what she's telling all of the lords and houses she's trying to get to fall in line
I understand not wanting filler nonsense but this season is moving a bit too fast and they aren't giving enough exposition for a lot of what is going on. I also don't think the budget increased with the number of episodes being cut. There are supposed to be two 90 minutes episodes though so it's essentially an 8 episode season.
The Artisan
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Because Tyrion was responsible for his son's death. As a once father, he probably would let the facts of the matter get the better of him at least at first.
again...why would Davos's own family not be important to him? Unless they do not exist to him anymore?
Yeah that was a very weird scene.
It was contrived but a lot more entertaining than just watching the Unsullied fight no names.
Gotta try to take out Bran. Too bad LF will probably die because of it.
Or GRRM gave them great detail and they're just ignoring what they don't want to film like they did with his other books.
No, look at a map.
Latvian Hitman
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Yep- we knew it was coming. I will say that this episode held together a lot better than last.
chicken_pasta
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Once the Unsullied have to leave The Rock, there will be fighting in the countryside. And Dany's Dothraki will also take a big fat L.
It would be nice seeing Dany failing tbh. That discussion she had with her advisors about letting the dragon's loose speaks of her recklessness, that will eventually kill at least one of those dragons.
I don't know. Maybe? I hope not, tbh.
BlueTsunami
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I actually liked that. Consequence to the power he's gained even though it was a shift in his personality versus last season.
20 good men? I don't see it as plausible, like you said its winter, its also wartime. No keep should be letting anyone in especially from outside their lands, theyve got to survive for potentially years on there reserves of food.
I guess I enjoyed the episode, but, honestly, I share the complaint that its seems they're just rushing towards the final battle, if there is one.
Everybody is just teleporting from one place to the other, and neutralizing the Tyrells, Martells and half the Greyjoys in just three episodes is sucking up the entire momentum built up from last season.
The whole thing is just kind of lazily skipping along.
Everybody is just teleporting from one place to the other, and neutralizing the Tyrells, Martells and half the Greyjoys in just three episodes is sucking up the entire momentum built up from last season.
The whole thing is just kind of lazily skipping along.
DUFFMCWALIN
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God I haven't seen this is so long. Thank you so much for this, I love it.she just gotta join the
I couldn't agree more the last episode of last season made it seem like an epic battle would be coming up this season but Dany and her allies have just been fucking everything up. Now that I think about it, this season is reminding me of Final Fantasy XV's 2nd half where everything (while still being good) is just rushed super fast to get you to the ending. Hopefully now that they have taken out a bunch of the side characters they can slow it down a bit and focus a bit more on exposition of what's going to happen.
Sansa: "Come on Bran. You're the lord of Winterfell. You're one of the most powerful men in the north."
Bran: "I am the north."
Sansa: "Okay, fine. You can be the north. Just come inside."
Bran: "I...see...everything..."
Sansa: "Okay, I'm going inside now."
Bran: "I want to see you in that wedding dress again."
*Sansa takes off running*
Bran: "I am the north."
Sansa: "Okay, fine. You can be the north. Just come inside."
Bran: "I...see...everything..."
Sansa: "Okay, I'm going inside now."
Bran: "I want to see you in that wedding dress again."
*Sansa takes off running*
Gunslinger
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The world map for Euron:
It'll be Rhaegal. Viserion will be the one taken out because he's just floating in mid air like a moron.
it's also named after Viserys
The answer to your question is the answer to why the show is so terrible. It's David and Dan. They want to wrap it up because...reasons? HBO would love to have kept this going and they could have if they properly wrote seasons 4+ but that's when shit started getting diluted and now we're left with this shell that they are just trying to push to an ending.
DarkJediKnight
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Umm, the Lanister Army would get slaughtered in the Vale. It's not called the Bloody Gate because it sounds cool.