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[nial]

p.s iirc gravity rush 2 also launched at $40.

No, it launched at $60.

 

[nial]

You guys haven't been asking for a Bloodborne remake for some time now to suddenly decide that remakes of "recent" games are bad.
Just say that the issue is that it's not the game you wanted.
If you believe that we're better off without both, count me in.

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

It's getting a sequel?

I meant the current ff7 remake is not exactly a remake but a kind of continuation of the old story. Don't want to say more not to spoil things though.

 

[TGO]

You guys haven't been asking for a Bloodborne remake for some time now to suddenly decide that remakes of "recent" games are bad.
Just say that the issue is that it's not the game you wanted.

I like Bloodborne but between a Bloodborne Remake with no sequel because it ain't happening without From (and Bluepoint is just wishful thinking) or Until Dawn Remake & a Sequel and more which is guaranteed because the original Devs are involved..
I'd choose this everytime.
Bloodborne Remake I'd probably boot up to check out how it looks and probably not return to it.
But I know I'd play this again because I know there's a lot of stuff I didn't do in the original and I will at least complete a playthrough and definitely any sequels they make.
but Bloodborne?
I think Elden Ring was probably my last Souls game, they're all so samey despite being different game.
The boredom of the last game carries over to the next.
If there wasn't so many of them it would probably be different.
But at this point I don't even want a sequel to Bloodborne.

I meant the current ff7 remake is not exactly a remake but a kind of continuation of the old story. Don't want to say more not to spoil things though.

I know about FF7Remake story

 

[consoul]

So 'rebuilt and enhanced' means edge lit. OK.

Until Discount.

 

[Bernardougf]

there is a great line in the movie 'Margin Call' about the 2008 financial crisis, in which the CEO of a big wall street firm says that his only job is to see what the markets will do a week, a month or a year from now. These CEOs get paid millions to NOT look at fads and figure out what might work years down the line. this is true especially in the gaming industry which takes forever to get these games made.

jumping on fads and gaas bandwagon is the most shortsighted and unoriginal thing sony couldve done. they didnt scale up their SP studios and instead invested all those extra dollars into gaas projects instead. now they have to rely upon quick and dirty remake after remake to fill in their empty quarters and have no choice but to price them high to maximize profits.

i wouldve rather they invested in ballistic moon's first new IP back in 2020 or whenever this studio split up from supermassive. Dont invest in a small remake. go all in and give them the budget for a new game like you did with concord, fair games, and several other gaas developers. but no, those losers got to make full games while this talented studio only got enough cash to remake a 10 year old game.

Brilliant post mate.

 

[SmokedMeat]

PC port is welcome, but what a stupid price. I’ll get it in a Humble Choice for $12.

 

[raduque]

Not at that price, anyway.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

sony's surprisingly ended up going halo/gears/forza, & leaving it up to third parties to provide all the variety while they continue to regurgitate established works. naughty dogs last new franchise was a ps3 game. santa monica's was a ps2 game...

Not true at all, people like you simply don't credit Sony for their new IP.

Since 2019
Day's Gone
Blood & Truth
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Concord

You go back another year and you can choose whether you want to add Marvel's Spider-Man and you also have Astro Bot and Detroit Become Human.

Can you tell me any other company that has put out 8 new franchises in the last 7 years?

 

[Jinzo Prime]

Not true at all, people like you simply don't credit Sony for their new IP.

Since 2019
Day's Gone
Blood & Truth
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Concord

You go back another year and you can choose whether you want to add Marvel's Spider-Man and you also have Astro Bot and Detroit Become Human.

Can you tell me any other company that has put out 8 new franchises in the last 7 years?

Don't forget about Sony's most important new IP, the highly anticipated Fairgame$!

 

[clarky]

Not true at all, people like you simply don't credit Sony for their new IP.

Since 2019
Day's Gone
Blood & Truth
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Concord

You go back another year and you can choose whether you want to add Marvel's Spider-Man and you also have Astro Bot and Detroit Become Human.

Can you tell me any other company that has put out 8 new franchises in the last 7 years?

Lol, one of those is Spiderman hardly a new franchise and the other 7 are hardly franchises at all.

 

[vivftp]

Not true at all, people like you simply don't credit Sony for their new IP.

Since 2019
Day's Gone
Blood & Truth
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Concord

You go back another year and you can choose whether you want to add Marvel's Spider-Man and you also have Astro Bot and Detroit Become Human.

Can you tell me any other company that has put out 8 new franchises in the last 7 years?

New IP and new entries in existing pop culture IP since 2018 published by Sony?

Days Gone
Blood and Truth
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Concord
Spider-Man 2018
Astro Bot Rescue Mission
Detroit Become Human
Death Stranding
Returnal
Destruction Allstars
Predator Hunting Ground
Iron Man VR
Déraciné
The Inpatient
Firewall Zero Hour
Erica
Concrete Genie

Then if we're talking about SIE publishing deals add Stellar Blade and Rise of the Ronin


If we're talking about upcoming games that're SIE published?

Lost Soul Aside
Convallaria
Neil Druckmann's new IP
Cory Barlog's new IP
Bend's new IP
Fairgame$
Wolverine
Neon Koi's game
Jason Blundell's game (if it's a continuation of the Deviation game)
Housemarque's new IP
Ooze game leaked by Dusk Golem
Physint


There will be more between now and when Physint releases, but these are just the ones we can call out right now.

 

[nial]

Since 2018, SIE has produced the following new IPs:

Bravo Team
Detroit: Become Human
Firewall: Zero Hour
Astro Bot Rescue Mission (kinda)
Déraciné
Chimparty
Frantics
Days Gone
Blood & Truth
Erica
ReadySet Heroes
Concrete Genie
Death Stranding
Dreams
Ghost of Tsushima
Destruction AllStars
Returnal
Concord
Fairgame$

New IPs produced by SIE, but ultimately owned by their respective developers:

Animal Force
Track Lab
Immortal Legacy: The Jade Cipher
Rise of the Ronin
Stellar Blade
Convallaria
Lost Soul Aside

Completely new stuff based on licensed IPs:

Marvel's Spider-Man
Monkey King: Hero Is Back
Predator: Hunting Grounds
Marvel's Iron Man VR
Marvel's Wolverine

 

[TGO]

So 'rebuilt and enhanced' means edge lit. OK.

Until Discount.

I think we can all agree that Until Dawn still looks fantastic 10 years after release
But that edge lighting does go a long way

Is it needed? No the original looks great even at 1080p.
But do I want the new version?

 

[EDMIX]

I think we can all agree that Until Dawn still looks fantastic 10 years after release
But that edge lighting does go a long way

This remake actually looks really good.

Not a day 1, but will buy down the line to replay it. Such a good once over.

 

[Mercenary09]

Sony really going full retard this gen

Judging by the amount of money they are making I'd say they aren't. Now if you were running the company that may be the case.

 

[Mercenary09]

sony's surprisingly ended up going halo/gears/forza, & leaving it up to third parties to provide all the variety while they continue to regurgitate established works. naughty dogs last new franchise was a ps3 game. santa monica's was a ps2 game...

The stupid stuff you read on here. Microsoft earned that trio title because that was literally all they put out in the later years of the 360 unless it was some Kinect garbage. Sony this gen has done a new God of War, Horizon, 2 Spider-Man games, Gran Turismo 7, Returnal, Ratchet, 2 Astro Bot games, remakes of classics like TLOU and Demon's Souls, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade (yes these are both considered first-party published titles), Sackboy, Helldivers 2, LEGO Horizon, etc. You have no idea what you are even talking about.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Lol, one of those is Spiderman hardly a new franchise and the other 7 are hardly franchises at all.

You're definitely a fanboy.

First Spider-Man is a new franchise. It does not follow any previous Spider-Man games. It's its own thing.

And why aren't the rest franchises? Because they're not big games or because not all of them have sequels?

You can't get angry at Sony for making sequels to its biggest games and not enough new games, but also criticize them for making new games that aren't as popular as established games.

That's laughable.

 

[Fabieter]

New IP and new entries in existing pop culture IP since 2018 published by Sony?

Days Gone  dead
Blood and Truth It's VR so probably dead
Dreams definitely dead
Ghost of Tsushima good point here
Concord this is a dead man walking
Spider-Man 2018 good point
Astro Bot Rescue Mission yea that one too
Detroit Become Human alright
Death Stranding good one
Returnal good one
Destruction Allstars laughable
Predator Hunting Ground they don't even own this
Iron Man VR you are serious?
Déraciné did anyone even play this?
The Inpatient who?
Firewall Zero Hour it's alright.
Erica what?
Concrete Genie it killed the studio

Then if we're talking about SIE publishing deals add Stellar Blade and Rise of the Ronin


If we're talking about upcoming games that're SIE published?

Lost Soul Aside
Convallaria
Neil Druckmann's new IP
Cory Barlog's new IP
Bend's new IP
Fairgame$
Wolverine
Neon Koi's game
Jason Blundell's game (if it's a continuation of the Deviation game)
Housemarque's new IP
Ooze game leaked by Dusk Golem
Physint


There will be more between now and when Physint releases, but these are just the ones we can call out right now.

Ofc there will be more new ips but the last six years are pretty disappointing. Most of the better ones were greenlit under the ps4 crew.

 

[SJRB]

Sony knocking on gamers' doors after remaking a game nobody asked for and selling it for 70 euros:

 

[clarky]

You're definitely a fanboy.

First Spider-Man is a new franchise. It does not follow any previous Spider-Man games. It's its own thing.

And why aren't the rest franchises? Because they're not big games or because not all of them have sequels?

You can't get angry at Sony for making sequels to its biggest games and not enough new games, but also criticize them for making new games that aren't as popular as established games.

That's laughable.

Who's angry?

The spiderman franchise has been around for 60 years how is that new?
It is actually a franchise unlike the rest of the ip you mentioned. Spiderman has comics, multiple TV shows, Movies, Videogames, its licensed out to different companies for various reasons, merch, food etc.
Type in Spiderman to google the results will be comic book character, not Sony Videogame.

Taking Dreams you mentioned as an example, its a singular product. Its an IP, not a franchise.

As for you calling me a fanboy ? Of what? just because we dont agree?
Behave, I think this is a case of pot and kettle, I see no need to continue.

Laughable.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

Ofc there will be more new ips but the last six years are pretty disappointing. Most of the better ones were greenlit under the ps4 crew.

This is an example of a fruitless argument.

New IP are inherently riskier. They don't always work.

You want to get on Sony for making sequels and remakes, but you also want to get on them for new IP that don't work out?

 

[Bernardougf]

You guys haven't been asking for a Bloodborne remake for some time now to suddenly decide that remakes of "recent" games are bad.
Just say that the issue is that it's not the game you wanted.
If you believe that we're better off without both, count me in.

So you are putting a remake of a 10/10 game, that a lot of people consider to be the best in its genre, beloved by a big fan base, but its an gameplay first action packed game that runs at shit 30fps with shit perfomance and would benefit enormously of current gen perfomance boosts, to a remake of an interative movie walking simulator that nobody seemed to give a fuck until became the new thing to defend sony god all might? .. its that your argument ? .. talking about disingenuous...expected nothing less.. kudos

 

[EverydayBeast]

Until dawn was a historic game at the time also I think the hobby is clear it needed new horror other than resident evil or silent hill that lacks that energy.

 

[vivftp]

Ofc there will be more new ips but the last six years are pretty disappointing. Most of the better ones were greenlit under the ps4 crew.

For you maybe, the last 6 years have been incredible for me and have delivered the best gaming I've ever experienced from new IP and sequels. The amount of games set for the latter half of this gen are gonna be a sight to behold.

As for whatever nonsense you're going on about the "PS4 crew", yeah have fun with whatever it is you're trying to argue there.

 

[nial]

So you are putting a remake of a 10/10 game, that a lot of people consider to be the best in its genre, beloved by a big fan base, but its an gameplay first action packed game that runs at shit 30fps with shit perfomance and would benefit enormously of current gen perfomance boosts, to a remake of an interative movie walking simulator that nobody seemed to give a fuck until became the new thing to defend sony god all might? .. its that your argument ? .. talking about disingenuous...expected nothing less.. kudos

Thanks for proving my point.

Just say that the issue is that it's not the game you wanted.

And no, I don't believe in that "hurr durr this one deserves it more" bullshit. You either think it's okay to remake 2015 games, or you don't, there's no middle ground.

 

[Roman Empire]

Not even for free. Played back when it came out and it didn't need a remake.

 

[deriks]

The most expensive movie ticket?

Arrogant Sony making arrogant decisions this gen:
- Concord
- Until Down remake
- Last of Us remake
What more?

 

[clarky]

Thanks for proving my point.

And no, I don't believe in that "hurr durr this one deserves it more" bullshit. You either think it's okay to remake 2015 games, or you don't, there's no middle ground.

Sorry to interject but of course there is. What you just said is total nonsense.

OG Until Dawn runs looks and plays just fine, and will likely play exactly the same in the remake.

Bloodborne on the other hand would be greatly enhanced by just smoothing out and upping the framerate.

If you are going remake games, remake the ones that would benefit the most.

 

[semiconscious]

The stupid stuff you read on here. Microsoft earned that trio title because that was literally all they put out in the later years of the 360 unless it was some Kinect garbage. Sony this gen has done a new God of War, Horizon, 2 Spider-Man games, Gran Turismo 7, Returnal, Ratchet, 2 Astro Bot games, remakes of classics like TLOU and Demon's Souls, Rise of the Ronin and Stellar Blade (yes these are both considered first-party published titles), Sackboy, Helldivers 2, LEGO Horizon, etc. You have no idea what you are even talking about.

thanks for taking the time to reply, because, when it comes to people not knowing what they're talking about, i myself usually don't even bother...

 

[nial]

Sorry to interject but of course there is. What you just said is total nonsense.

OG Until Dawn runs looks and plays just fine, and will likely play exactly the same in the remake.

Bloodborne on the other hand would be greatly enhanced by just smoothing out and upping the framerate.

If you are going remake games, remake the ones that would benefit the most.

No, if you're going to take a firm stance that remaking recent games is greedy and unnecessary, you don't make exceptions when it's convenient. Especially when you don't need a remake for the stuff you're mentioning.

 

[yurinka]

So 'rebuilt and enhanced' means edge lit. OK.

Until Discount.

Means they rebuilt the game from scratch on a totally different game engine. And added and changed several things from camera to story parts.

If you are going remake games, remake the ones that would benefit the most.

Miyazaki said he thinks it's nonsensical to remaster/remake Bloodborne this generation because it would be basically the same than the original one. He thinks that makes more sense to wait instead for a second generation, as happened with the Demon's Souls remake.

In case of Until Dawn, I think the reasons of making the remake are:

• Update the game to make easier its PC port and make the PC port a fresh product, not just a port of a 9 years old game
• Update the engine and train the team who may also be working at the same time in the sequel (I'd say Ballistic Moon + Firesprite)
• Have a more fresh release in PS5 and PC before the movie and sequel get released
• Generate some revenue with a lower cost product to help fund the sequel and movie

 

[Fabieter]

No, if you're going to take a firm stance that remaking recent games is greedy and unnecessary, you don't make exceptions when it's convenient. Especially when you don't need a remake for the stuff you're mentioning.

Most people don't want a bloodborne remake. Most just asked for a 60 fps patch years ago.

 

[nial]

Most people don't want a bloodborne remake. Most just asked for a 60 fps patch years ago.

Most people do, in fact. I was always weirded out by that considering that a remaster was a much better idea.

 

[Fabieter]

Most people do, in fact. I was always weirded out by that considering that a remaster was a much better idea.

I played bloodborne for almost 300 hours already. I wouldn't pay fullprice for that remake either. I did for demons souls and I already knew that one too. I ended up playing it for one playthrough that lasted me 20 hours. Not doing that again.

 

[clarky]

No, if you're going to take a firm stance that remaking recent games is greedy and unnecessary, you don't make exceptions when it's convenient. Especially when you don't need a remake for the stuff you're mentioning.

I didn't say that recent(ish) games where unnecessary. If the other poster did then i apologise for jumping in.

I just feel like this particular one is (until dawn) And there are other better games with technical issues and such that would fair better for the remaster/remake treatment (Bloodborne for example).

 

[clarky]

Means they rebuilt the game from scratch on a totally different game engine. And added and changed several things from camera to story parts.


Miyazaki said he thinks it's nonsensical to remaster/remake Bloodborne this generation because it would be basically the same than the original one. He thinks that makes more sense to wait instead for a second generation, as happened with the Demon's Souls remake.

In case of Until Dawn, I think the reasons of making the remake are:

• Update the game to make easier its PC port and make the PC port a fresh product, not just a port of a 9 years old game
• Update the engine and train the team who may also be working at the same time in the sequel (I'd say Ballistic Moon + Firesprite)
• Have a more fresh release in PS5 and PC before the movie and sequel get released
• Generate some revenue with a lower cost product to help fund the sequel and movie

They are making a sequel to Until Dawn? Good news, thats something i would be interested in.

 

[nial]

I didn't say that recent(ish) games where unnecessary.

Then it wasn't aimed at you, so it's k.

 

[simpatico]

You guys haven't been asking for a Bloodborne remake for some time now to suddenly decide that remakes of "recent" games are bad.
Just say that the issue is that it's not the game you wanted.
If you believe that we're better off without both, count me in.

Bloodborne only exists in a barely playable state. Performance isn't nearly as important in visual novels.

 

[nial]

Bloodborne only exists in a barely playable state.

what a snob
plus, as I've already said, all of that can be addressed on a simple port/remaster, different to the whole remake topic here

 

[simpatico]

what a snob
plus, as I've already said, all of that can be addressed on a simple port/remaster, different to the whole remake topic here

I think that's all anyone is asking for. I mean, personally I don't want BluePoint coming anywhere near it. Keep all the same assets, drop a barebones PC version and a PS5 version with an unlocked frame rate. Couldn't be easier.

 

[digital_ghost]

I hope they release a physical ps5 version so i can rent it. As i loved the original.

If not ill wait for a steam key sale.

 

[nial]

I think that's all anyone is asking for.

A LOT OF people have been asking for a full blown remake ever since those (fake) rumors from late 2021.

 

[simpatico]

A LOT OF people have been asking for a full blown remake ever since those (fake) rumors from late 2021.

I don't see a need to recreate any assets. Just uncap the framerate and get it running on PC. Simple stuff. Hell I've still got $70 waiting for Sony to make a straight PC port of PS3 Demon's Souls.

 

[Mercenary09]

thanks for taking the time to reply, because, when it comes to people not knowing what they're talking about, i myself usually don't even bother...

You posted a clown comment and got called out for it so I wouldn't expect you to have anything to reply about.

 

[semiconscious]

You posted a clown comment and got called out for it so I wouldn't expect you to have anything to reply about.

whoa! ouch!...

 

[yurinka]

They are making a sequel to Until Dawn? Good news, thats something i would be interested in.

Not oficially confimed, just a personal guess because there are several things that lead to think it's the case.

 

[yurinka]

The most expensive movie ticket?

Arrogant Sony making arrogant decisions this gen:
- Concord
- Until Down remake
- Last of Us remake
What more?

Nice joke

 

[Games of Today]

Ouch. Fuck that. This game is sick but worth like $15 to $20 at the max for a second purchase.

Give me The Order 1886 remake in 4K, 60fps and I'll give you $60. How's that.

 

[Fake]

The most expensive movie ticket?

Arrogant Sony making arrogant decisions this gen:
- Concord
- Until Down remake
- Last of Us remake
What more?

Horizon Zero Dawn remake.