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Its impressive that Pence is an even bigger liar than Trump

 

[MHWilliams]

Pence is the better debater. His problem is everything Trump. Kaine didn't control the pace and interrupted a bit much. My gut says Pence won, but he couldn't deny almost any accusation against Trump. Good face, little substance.

 

[Leona Lewis]

I listened to half the debate on the radio, the other half on TV.

Kaine won on radio, Pence on TV.

 

[Arkeband]

Those who are saying that either Pence or Kaine handily won: Are you judging that based on your perception of who was better at debating, which of them changed more votes, or some other criteria?

Kaine answered more questions directly, he had an encyclopedic knowledge of Trumpisms and actual policy, and he had shining moments that made Pence's darker side come out in regards to racism and his religious zealotry.

Pence just failed on every level to defend Trump.

 

[Manmademan]

PBS folks saying Pence won style but Kaine won on substance.

Interesting.

This is what I'm hearing from ABC.

 

[Totakeke]

Hillary Clinton clearly won and Donald Trump clearly lost.

 

[Wiz]

No one won this debate tbh. But no one really lost it either. Each side was messy. Tim messy on style. Pence messy on message/substance.

I call a tie. But if your force me to pick, I think Tim got out better.

 

[Envelope]

yeah kaine's over agression and pence's lack of answers will let everyone say "IT'S TOO CLOSE TO CALL"

 

[Ashodin]

lool Kellyanne Conway on! SPINNNNNN

 

[Y2Kev]

I like that Kaine managed to get his footing, but those first 20 minutes or so were really rough. Hope first impressions don't overtake everything else.

They generally do.

 

[kcp12304]

Kaine may not have had the best look up on stage and Pence is a smooth politician but the fact that the Trump Campaign in on the defensive is bad for them.

 

[Oblivion]

LOL. Kellyann apparently said that she thinks Pence did a great job talking about women.

 

[Monocle]

Kaine hit the "erogenous zones" of the democratic party.

oh chris matthews

top lel

 

[Steel]

The first hour was a coma-fest. That last 30 minutes was pure nuclear fire.

 

[Ithil]

Someone just said Pence did a lot more for Pence than he did for Trump, and that Kaine was debating for VP in 2016, and Pence was debating for president in 2020.

 

[Yekshemesh]

Good job Cool Dad Kaine.

 

[Ferrio]

Pence is the better debater. His problem is everything Trump. Kaine didn't control the pace and interrupted a bit much. My gut says Pence won, but he couldn't deny almost any accusation against Trump. Good face, little substance.

Ya if Pence wasn't running with Donald this would have been pretty lopsided IMO.

 

[Joe]

 

[rekameohs]

Chris Matthews: Pence will be the front runner for republicans in 2020.

If Trump loses, I feel like anyone that stood with him along the way will have doomed their future.

 

[Gutek]

ABC doubling down on Kaine winning. Saying he basically prosecuted it like a case and, despite sloppy execution, had a strong showing.

 

[Cosmo Clock 21]

PBS folks saying Pence won style but Kaine won on substance.

Interesting.

Style wins debates, unfortunately.

 

[MIMIC]

Trump should be offering Pence a blowjob right now

 

[Effect]

Hillary Clinton clearly won and Donald Trump clearly lost.

Ultimately this.

 

[massivekettle]

Pence is the better debater. His problem is everything Trump. Kaine didn't control the pace and interrupted a bit much. My gut says Pence won, but he couldn't deny almost any accusation against Trump. Good face, little substance.

Sums up my view.

 

[NYR]

CBS audience says Pence won, only one or two thought Kaine won.

 

[KarmaCow]

Pence won.

Truth and facts do not matter in these things.

Eh, Pence looked pretty bad in the second half. Side stepped everything, even the easy questions and while Kaine had his points and hit them hard.

But it's the VP debate. It will be forgotten by the time for the next Presidential debate.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Pence was like a football fan having to defend their team signing Jeff Fisher as head coach.

 

[RDreamer]

I want to strangle almost everyone in this Frank Luntz group.

 

[LegalEagleMike]

We are just lucky Pence is not running against Clinton.

We are just lucky [insert random Republican] is not running against Clinton. The Republican party's constant attack on Clinton for 20+ years has taken its toll, bullshit as it may be.

 

[WedgeX]

lol.

 

[MartyStu]

Kaine had one job: not kill Hillary's lead.

He did that with aplomb.

 

[Capella]

Pence is the better debater. His problem is everything Trump. Kaine didn't control the pace and interrupted a bit much. My gut says Pence won, but he couldn't deny almost any accusation against Trump. Good face, little substance.

Exactly my thoughts.

 

[Hours Left]

ABC doubling down on Kaine winning. Saying he basically prosecuted it like a case and, despite sloppy execution, had a strong showing.

Yep.

 

[Galactic Barret]

Pence looks like he got repeatedly gut shot. He knows he lost that debate. Kaine gave no fucks about anything but laying that hammer down.

 

[grumble]

Except that it doesn't (on a purchasing power parity basis)

Per capita GDP on a ppp basis for the us: 55805
For the EU: 37852

So yeah not even close. The aggregates don't mean much.

 

[Monocle]

The biggest surprise was how forceful Kaine was, I didn't expect that.

Yeah I thought he'd be too timid and get rolled. I had no idea Kaine had that kind of fire. He was a fact-spitting machine once he got warmed up. Incredible responses to Pence's vague spin.

 

[Byakuya769]

Pence won.

Truth and facts do not matter in these things.

Too few people watch VP debates. But the fact checks and taped contradictions will live on. Pence looked better, but Kaine did exactly what he set out to do, make Trump seem indefensible and untenable--even for his running mate.

 

[Zackat]

lool Kellyanne Conway on! SPINNNNNN

Tim Kaine is a sexist now

 

[yukianderson]

Pence already won the debate 3 hours ago

In Trumps mind he's already president.

 

[mackattk]

Pence is the better debater. His problem is everything Trump. Kaine didn't control the pace and interrupted a bit much. My gut says Pence won, but he couldn't deny almost any accusation against Trump. Good face, little substance.

I see your point, wonder how the debate would have gone if he didn't have to go on the defensive so often because of trump.

 

[wumster3000]

Kaine had one job: not kill Hillary's lead.

He did that with aplomb.

Yep.

 

[Aaronrules380]

LMAO

 

[AlexBasch]

Pence: "Well the thing about the emai-He said that?!"

 

[ZealousD]

Trump should be offering Pence a blowjob right now

Pence did nothing for Trump but improve the appearance of Mike Pence.

 

[B-Dubs]

Pence looks like he got repeatedly gut shot. He knows he lost that debate. Kaine gave no fucks about anything but laying that hammer down.

Pence may not have lost, but Kaine just created like 30 new ads for his campaign.

 

[Lazy vs Crazy]

lool Kellyanne Conway on! SPINNNNNN

She just admitted the Trump campaign cannot count.

 

[Manmademan]

If Trump loses, I feel like anyone that stood with him along the way will have doomed their future.

exactly. Pence has screwed himself by tying himself to the Trump wagon. He's not only endorsed the WORST presidential candidate of all time (and this is not an exaggeration) but voluntarily took a position on the ticket.

Anything he says is going to be countered with "yeah, but you ran with Donald Trump."

 

[NandoGip]

Wow This lady is the queen of REACHINGGGG.

Tried to say that Kaine was sexist because he interrupted the moderator

 

[Mattenth]

Pence clearly won, unfortunately. But I doubt it matters. As a Clinton supporter, I'm glad this is the only VP Debate.

I mean, really, do you think any person is going to decide their position based on this debate?

The VP debate can only let candidates lose ground (ex: Sarah Palin). Both performed well enough.

 

[LifEndz]

This KellyAnn Conway deserves a raise. She's a spin master. Unfortunately, she's trying to spin the spewings of a sexist, racist, idiot as something presidential.