If they can get the body, they can always have Dr. Orpheus resurrect him.
But didn't both of The Monarch's parents die in a plane crash?
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If they can get the body, they can always have Dr. Orpheus resurrect him.
But didn't both of The Monarch's parents die in a plane crash?
SilentSoldier
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How did I not see this thread before? I love Venture Bros, and this season has been awesome. I'm on the West Coast so I have to wait, but I am very much excite.
Well, try to, at least.
I wouldn't at all be surprised if Rusty did have a hand in their death, but I don't doubt for a second that Jonas had different ideas.
For a split second when he left the table after hearing Venture's name I thought "wait is that The Monarch in a different costume?... no"
I like that father theory, also could be nothing
Henchmen21
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Guess I'm the only one who didn't like this one too much. Not that it was bad but it felt mostly like setup for next weeks.
edit: The belt on Shore Leave's costume is a Monarch belt
edit: The belt on Shore Leave's costume is a Monarch belt
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
That was so random, but I got the reference, I couldn't stop laughing. Also the Harrison Ford movie one.
Tonight's episode was much better than almost all of the season.
metsallica
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Not that I've seen, but I'm on the lookout. I don't think they aired one after the episode either, but I didn't do my "AS bump watch" yet so I can't be totally sure.
Templar Wizard
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T-Shirt club shirts arrived... annnnnnnnnd they are huge.
Anyone XL looking for some shirts they missed?
Anyone XL looking for some shirts they missed?
Wait, didn't Vendata mention something about a plane when he was babbling about where his wife was at the end?
metsallica
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Yep, he said where's my wife and the plane is going down. Honestly, though, I don't think he's the Monarch's Dad, because isn't he dead? Like, isn't that the reason Dr. Mrs. The Monarch is up for a Council seat? They brought him back like that just to kill him off? Fishy.
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Deleted member 102362
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A preview for "The Devil's Grip" was aired immediately after "Bot Seeks Bot" concluded. It included the shot of the Monarch screaming about having defeated Dr. Venture that was shown in the Season V trailer.
There was a brief tease after the episode.
Monarch yelling "I have crushed Dr Venture, ahahahaha"
Sgt Hatred in his tank (?) saying "oooh a reckoning is coming buddy, a reckoning is coming!"
Sgt Hatred in his tank (?) saying "oooh a reckoning is coming buddy, a reckoning is coming!"
metsallica
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You guys are totally right, I'm going to blame my forgetfulness on shock due to the end of the episode / stinger!
Are you normally an XL? Try washing them with warm water. American Apparel shirts typically shrink after their first wash.
Yeah, he said where is my wife and the plane is going down. I just amazing how sick Jonas Venture was doing these things to people when it seems they never wanted it to be done to them.
edit: The too soon and Kevin Conroy is great is captain sunshine.
metsallica
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Not sure what you mean here? Destiny and Council of 13 are both included in the subscription!noooooooo T-shirt club gets 'Destiny'
Wait, Rusty and the Monarch went to college together but Rusty never recognized him.
They clearly played together previously as shown by the picture. I'm starting to come around to the idea of Rusty being a clone.....and what if he and Dean are actually the same person, just aged.
That would open up his return.
They clearly played together previously as shown by the picture. I'm starting to come around to the idea of Rusty being a clone.....and what if he and Dean are actually the same person, just aged.
That would open up his return.
PlanetSmasher
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Wait. Season 5 isn't only 8 episodes, is it?
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Deleted member 102362
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Yeah. It was picked up for ten, but the Halloween special counted as one, and the premiere counted as two.
Jorok Goldblade
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The one problem with Rusty being a clone is JJ.
PlanetSmasher
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Damn. I hope the wait for S6 won't be as long then. I really feel like the show barely came back!
And we've had no Orpheus so far.
If you look at the sizzle reel, you can figure out a lot of it. and there was a short preview description for the episode. SPOILERS FOLLOW
Doc is presumed dead, and the boys are sent to live with their godfathers.
In the sizzle reel, many of the Monarch clips with a bandaged Rusty, or doing dental work for him. Hatred appears to attack the Coccoon, passing by Rusty. The boys are likely with the original Team Venture, as there are some flashback clips of them fighting Brainulio, and Hank at an old folk's home. 
In the sizzle reel, many of the Monarch clips with a bandaged Rusty, or doing dental work for him. Hatred appears to attack the Coccoon, passing by Rusty. The boys are likely with the original Team Venture, as there are some flashback clips of them fighting Brainulio, and Hank at an old folk's home. 
BobTheFork
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Well he was in last week's episode and in the Holloween special. It felt like Brock is hardly in the show anymore; just in 2-3 episodes a season.
The real tragedy is the lack of Jefferson Twilight.
PlanetSmasher
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He was in last week's episode? I don't remember that...maybe I need to re-watch it.
Twilight was in the S5 sizzle reel at least once (and with a new outfit), so he must be in the finale too.
As for Brock, his role seems bigger this season than it was last season, which is nice. But the shorter season definitely does make it feel like he hasn't been around much.
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Deleted member 102362
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Dr. Orpheus was in "Momma's Boys" and "A Very Venture Halloween."
I've got a crazy off-the-wall theory.
So, The Monarch's parents died in the plane crash. It's pretty clear that Jonas turned the father into Vendata, but what about the mother? We also know that Jonas created the cloning project... so what if he tried to clone Monarch's mother (maybe because he loved/lusted her and wanted her to have a real body and not a cyborg one), only to discover that the clone slugs grow at a normal human rate.
Fast forward to Jonas' death. Rusty drops out of school and returns home to run Venture Industries. At some point he discovers the cloning facilities, along with a now-adult Monarch Mom clone. (Okay, based on Monarch's age when she died and Monarch/Rusty's age when Jonas died, she might be around 16-17.) Anyway, one thing leads to another, and Rusty loses his virginity to a clone of Monarch's mom, and she later gives birth to Hank and Dean. (This could even be similar to how Hank lost his virginity since Dermott's "sister" felt the same attraction to Hank as she did for a young Rusty - the Momarch clone might share some memories from her past like Hank and Dean do, so she might have had felt some attraction towards Rusty that was really meant for Jonas.) Not sure what happens to the clone after giving birth to the twins.
Of course, this would have nothing to do with why The Monarch hates Rusty since he already had it out for him in college, but it would be crazy if it turns out that he was half-brothers with Hank and Dean. (And if Jonas turns out to be the Monarch's secret father, then he would ALSO be half-brothers with Rusty!)
Fast forward to Jonas' death. Rusty drops out of school and returns home to run Venture Industries. At some point he discovers the cloning facilities, along with a now-adult Monarch Mom clone. (Okay, based on Monarch's age when she died and Monarch/Rusty's age when Jonas died, she might be around 16-17.) Anyway, one thing leads to another, and Rusty loses his virginity to a clone of Monarch's mom, and she later gives birth to Hank and Dean. (This could even be similar to how Hank lost his virginity since Dermott's "sister" felt the same attraction to Hank as she did for a young Rusty - the Momarch clone might share some memories from her past like Hank and Dean do, so she might have had felt some attraction towards Rusty that was really meant for Jonas.) Not sure what happens to the clone after giving birth to the twins.
Of course, this would have nothing to do with why The Monarch hates Rusty since he already had it out for him in college, but it would be crazy if it turns out that he was half-brothers with Hank and Dean. (And if Jonas turns out to be the Monarch's secret father, then he would ALSO be half-brothers with Rusty!)
metsallica
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BobTheFork
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Well it depends if you take season 4 as one season. He was only in 2 episodes out of the first half but was in most of them in the second set of 8.
I think it's just tougher to get Patrick in for as much time now.
I was glad Dana Snyder got in as one of the OSI auditors since the alchemist hasn't been on much
PlanetSmasher
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They must've had some serious time or budget limitations for this season, since the number of guest characters does seem smaller than usual. I was glad to see John Hodgman in last night's episode though, that was a really cool cameo.
It's a shame that Warburton isn't in it that much, since he's great - I hope he at least sticks around until the end though.
metsallica
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It's up on ASG if your cableco participates: http://video.adultswim.com/the-venture-bros/bot-seeks-bot.html
Maybe Rusty and The Monarch are both clones.
PlanetSmasher
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If Rusty is a clone, then does that mean every single Rusty Venture out there has a J.J. that grew out of him? That'd be a lot of J.Js.
Could've been one clone that ate another!
The Technomancer
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I'm honestly not sure weather to take the disco ball drop as a throwaway gag or not.
Lionel Mandrake
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Holy shit at that ending and the stinger.
People seem to be glossing over the fact that Killinger has apparently joined the Revenge Society. His involvement would make them a much more viable threat.
People seem to be glossing over the fact that Killinger has apparently joined the Revenge Society. His involvement would make them a much more viable threat.
metsallica
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Well, maybe they just brought him in to whip the Revenge Society into shape! But yes, I agree; that was the biggest part of the stinger!
Jorok Goldblade
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I doubt he's a member. He's probably acting as fairy godfather to them, though.
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In this show? It's not.
Lord British
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Is the finale an hour? So, so pumped. This show just does not miss a beat.
Henchmen21
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From what I've heard, no. Just a regular ep.
Would be kind of messed up if Rusty actually died on all those adventures and if the Monarch did not actually "survive" that plane crash.
Also I still believe Vendata is the Monarch's dad and that he tried to strangle Rusty after retaining some memories because Rusty caused something to happen to the plane.
Aaah... the return of Dr. Henry Killinger (and hopefully his magic murder bag?). My favorite Guild member/employee!
Really wished we got more Investors though. Admittedly, I have to say they're the most intriguing characters in the show. It's obvious they killed
Also, the Investors were not first in "The Silent Partners". They can be first seen in "The Revenge Society" on stage behind Richard Impossible.
Hopefully Doc and Chris aren't going to close their [The Investors] story like the Orb. Which was a major letdown.
Really wished we got more Investors though. Admittedly, I have to say they're the most intriguing characters in the show. It's obvious they killed
Boggles the Clue Clown. His heart attack behind the wheel definitely wasn't just random. Originally they're members of the Guild. But the fact they killed one of the Councils just makes this all more mysterous.
Hopefully Doc and Chris aren't going to close their [The Investors] story like the Orb. Which was a major letdown.
Rusty dying in most of their adventures makes sense. Just the bit that we've seen with young rusty seems ridiculous, and having a large group of assholes that don't care whether you live or die for the most part makes sense. It would make sense how they could abandon an exploded ship with no real alarm except for their own lives.
I think the vendata is the monarchs dad. Rusty being at fault with the plane malfunction makes sense too(like with the Gargantua) and Rusty having memories of him attacking him sounds like when hank told letour about jumping off the roof with his Batman costume. A memory that he can't place due to being a clone.
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