VGLeaks: First look as Durango XDK (always connected, kinect required, must install)
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akidnamededdy
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Isn't PS4 supposed to always be online too? Background downloads of updates and patches and all that? How is that any different than this? Or am I missing something?
The must-install-to-play thing is kinda strange though. Don't particularly care about always connected Kinect personally, I use mine all the time for voice activation on Netflix. Granted, I won it in a contest...wouldn't have bought one myself.
The must-install-to-play thing is kinda strange though. Don't particularly care about always connected Kinect personally, I use mine all the time for voice activation on Netflix. Granted, I won it in a contest...wouldn't have bought one myself.
Doc Holliday
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You're probably right. However you can't blame people for being afraid after diablo 3, and simcity. Imagine the nightmare on Halo/cod launch day on consoles :O
Duxxy3
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I do a "Mission Impossible" style photo trick and put Johnny Depp's face on there instead.
eso76
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Guys, am i missing something here ?
Vgleaks is simply posting the old document that started their leaks.
Of course it would confirm the rumours,
It's where those rumours originated...
It's still old, and subject to change.
Also doesn't mention mandatory online or anything about used games.
Also, my x360 downloads stuff all the time when it's switched off.
That too had a low power consumption mode for background downloads, how is this new ?
Vgleaks is simply posting the old document that started their leaks.
Of course it would confirm the rumours,
It's where those rumours originated...
It's still old, and subject to change.
Also doesn't mention mandatory online or anything about used games.
Also, my x360 downloads stuff all the time when it's switched off.
That too had a low power consumption mode for background downloads, how is this new ?
"Always connected" doesn't mean "you have to be connected to the Internet in order to use the console". It might mean that, but all the article says is that it's always connected in order to download stuff in the background when the console is "off" (i.e. in its low power state).
Who enjoys waiting for updates to download and install? It was the bane of the PS3. No doubt MS will not be applying the same tiny patch size limitations to Durango games, so I'd much rather have everything up to date when I turn the console on because it's all downloaded in the background, rather than be faced with giant updates when I fire up a game.
Im pretty sure the royalty costs only kick in for video playback from disc? Someone might be able to confirm that for me.
Angelus Errare
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There's a cost associated for printing a disc and creating a BR drive as well, just like DVD and CD before it.
HDDs are still faster than BR drives.
HDDs are still faster than BR drives.
How is that different to today? Most of the people play those games online day1.
I believe so.
SloaneRisette
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Didn't Pachter say Microsoft was going to win next gen?
Well then...
This is just...
Wow. I'd say I'm surprised, but at the same time, I'm not all that surprised.
Well then...
This is just...
Wow. I'd say I'm surprised, but at the same time, I'm not all that surprised.
toddhunter
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If steam runs on there and you can get the hardware under subscription they could still win easily.
AmaterasuOkami076
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Console can always be on. Kinect is always connected.
Microsoft are watching you sleep, GAF.
Microsoft are watching you sleep, GAF.
Always-honest
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That sounds like a lot of mandatory Stuff . But great games can save anything for me.
Uno Venova
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They said their older leaks didn't come from this documentation.
GuitarAtomik
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Perhaps this has been mentioned already (this thread is long and I don't have enough time at the moment to comb through it), but nothing about the language used in context with "Always on, Always connected" seemed to suggest the system was incapable of operating without being online. I'm reading it more like how PS+ allows you to download updates without prompting you and that it can do this from "low power" mode similar to PS4s standby mode. That would explain the next sentence "users will quickly and easily enjoy their connected entertainment experiences, with no waiting for the console to restart and install updates".
disappeared
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This gif has been bugging me for years. Where's it from?
Nope, but a lot of people seem to be. This doesn't sound any different than the PS4.
Shouldn't it say 720 supports "always connected" in that case. If it was an optional feature, they wouldn't say that it WILL ALWAYS maintain an online connection. It sounds mandatory to me.
Didn't SuperDaE use this as well to build the devkit?
This... all the mandatory installation of games point to link the games to one console only.
legacyzero
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The rumour in question probably stemmed from this same document.
The X Factor probably. It's Cheryl Cole.
Did you have a Wii? That was always online.
Angelus Errare
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Uno Venova
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There are royalties for both the drive tech and the video format. The video format royalties can be avoided like Nintendo did, no install step necessary.
Cheryl Cole saying 'okay', at a guess Xfactor UK but I don't know for sure.
Shouldn't have said that always online is "required" as well then? Said that Kinect was required, why wouldn't they say the same about always online if it were needed to function?
There are a ton of HUGE retail PS3 games available on PSN. 15-20GB is not uncommon. MGS:R is 18.5GB, for example. From memory, I think that PS3 games are limited to single layer BD discs, so 25GB max.
TheLegendary
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Didn't Nintendo advertise always online with the Wii? If anything, if this is the source of the rumors people should be less concerned about it being a requirement. The language is at best extremely vague
Yea. This DRM could be exactly the same as the 360 now and behaving exactly the same as installed games on the 360. People jumping to conclusions without concrete information.
eso76
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Ah, OK.
Thought they were just reposting old info like they've been doing in the past few weeks.
Plinko
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I'm really not sure, xD.
I don't think it was the X Factor. Still looks so damn pretty even with a weird look on her face.
What? Give me a bowl of the stuff you are smoking. You start playing immediately, rest installs in the background. It is done to reduce loading times and to achieve the standby mode from which you can return to your game as you left it. (As on the PS4)
Durango won't block used games. Publisher decide if they want to. A Campaign-Pass (like an online pass) is even possible on current gen machines.
Miles Quaritch
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Marketing language. They want everyone to be online at all times so they can push content, patches, etc.
A good way to sell such a idea is to imply that it might be mandatory but actually isn't. You just don't want people to know it's optional when it actually is.
Essentially, Marketing 101.