Bam Bam Baklava
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A lot of reporters are more or less making shit up on twitter right now. Be careful who you believe guys, just follow the big name reporters at the big papers.
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WaPo: Trump recorded bragging about his fame letting him violate women in 2005
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Lights and Waves
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I don't get how this changes things though. Trump could literally kill someone and his supporters would only like him more. Nothing can sway their opinions.
I've been seeing this sentiment on my FB.
This is how they talk about their women I guess.
Back to the issues.
So fucking gross. No man or woman I've ever known has bragged about sexually assault - and I used to date a frat guy in college.
7DollarHagane
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I feel like this is the tipping point, so to speak. Even with the stuff dropped at the debate which was horrible, there was a possible way for crazies to blame the woman. Here, it's all on him. Just like the statements about muslims and mexicans, there were ways to spin it so people would buy that it wasn't negative, or just think that he was really bad at speaking.
There's no way to spin this crap. It's awful.
When he refused to endorse Trump, yeah. Like I said: "brief, fleeting" and "modicum"
Don't get me wrong, I've always thought he was an awful human being.
DerangedHermit
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The second part was made by Trump's lawyers and "approved" by Ivana. The same lawyers who said that you can't rape your spouse.
ColdDeckEd
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I've been seeing this sentiment on my FB.
This is how they talk about their women I guess.
Back to the issues.
Deplorable is such a good term for these people.
Delicious. Keep digging that hole, kiddos. Scraping the bottom of the Benghazi barrel to try miserably to distract from him sexually assaulting women.
What's most gross about this is this is coming from a guy who is a professional "Life Coach"... with daughters...
Prototype Viktor
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"Hilary took me to the furniture store in November because she fucked me this election"
Only if he killed a brown person.
Things like the Trump Foundation and carrying losses forward on taxes are a little too abstract for Trump's supporters, and many of them are racist and xenophobic so the disparaging remarks toward Hispanics and Muslims are actually considered net positives.
People love a good sex scandal though - they're easy to understand, and this particular scandal has the extra dimension of implied sexual assault, which makes it an even bigger deal. In a perfect world, Trump would have been taken down for the things that make him a terrible candidate, but if the things that make him a terrible *person* do it, then I'm fine with that too.
His supporters are a lost cause, but there are still undecided voters and supporters of Stein/Johnson who will be swayed by this.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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He spent the entire VP debate denying things Trump is known to have said. He doesn't have the credibility to take the innocent bystander approach that you're advocating now that he's complicit in gaslighting for the piece of shit on national television.
Gordon Shumway
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Not about them. It's about those that are still, somehow, on the fence..in particular many evangelicals that have had issues with him. This is not helping..no matter how much they're trying to spin it.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
The house is on fire and everyone is rushing for the exits. No hyperbole, this has to be one of the worst weeks for a Presidential candidate in modern history. I've never seen someone have multiple October Surprises of such a damaging nature occur in a 7 day period.
Prominent Republicans are going to be deleting Trump's number and denouncing him ahead of more damaging stuff. At a certain point your career is going to be on the line if your name can be spoken in the same breathe as Trump. At least if you jump ship now, you can fudge the facts and say "I denounced him" even if you waited until mid-October and endorsed him before that.
Agreed. I guess it's the straw that broke the camels back? He has said things as bad if not worse on live television, such as advocating the torture of families of alleged terrorists.
That's just dude talk man, who hasn't discussed sexually assualting bitches around their bros, bro?I've been seeing this sentiment on my FB.
This is how they talk about their women I guess.
Back to the issues.
It's also far less ambiguous. He clearly states that this is a thing he does consistently against women. The other things, even if we see it as pathetic, could be hand-waved away by some (mentally ill) people.
OK, whats the roundup on the spin attempts at this point? So far I have:
- Bill said/did worse stuff
- people in the bible did bad stuff and they got redeemed
- boys will be boys
- its just locker room talk
- we didn't nominate a Sunday school teacher
- yes it was bad, but he was a democrat when he said it
- it was 11 years ago and he has changed so much and he speaks from the heart
- Benghazi
Have I missed any?
- Bill said/did worse stuff
- people in the bible did bad stuff and they got redeemed
- boys will be boys
- its just locker room talk
- we didn't nominate a Sunday school teacher
- yes it was bad, but he was a democrat when he said it
- it was 11 years ago and he has changed so much and he speaks from the heart
- Benghazi
Have I missed any?
hahaha Serafinowicz is amazing
Angelus Errare
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Damn how many moms did my boy Ben Ghazi have?!
Sassy Trump is great, but I wish he would bring Sophisticated Trump back. It's been too long.
News travels faster than ever before in human history. This might be the fastest swing of events for a presidential candidate ever. This shit isn't even 24 hours old, barely long enough to have been included in a standard printed newspaper and look at all the shit that's happening.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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The exact same lawyers? Or are you assuming all Trump's lawyers have all had the same views throughout the years.
Trump's a scumbag, but the Ivana passage reads to me like something very sensationalist written to sell a book. Unless she actually, like, changes her tune re: the legal clarification, I see little reason to read it as an account of something that actually happened.
Heard on MSNBC earlier: "He was going through a really rough patch in his life at this time, so he was probably just stressed out."
Not to mention that the second part doesn't actually rescind any of the detail of the account she originally provided, merely tries to soften the interpretation of it.
DJ Lushious
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Lightning_Roller
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Arrogant Bastard
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didn't he just get married though.
Snowman Prophet of Doom
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The first passage says he raped her. The second passage says he didn't do anything criminal, and he was cold, mechanical, and distant during sex one time. That's a pretty massive difference.
Saint Gregory
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I've been seeing this sentiment on my FB.
This is how they talk about their women I guess.
Back to the issues.
Not just talk though, Trump is actually describing what he does physically to women he finds attractive. Are these FB defenders actually going to say that they run around grabbing genitals too?
I think someone said that but I don't remember how it was defended.
Lights and Waves
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Pence wants to completely defund HIV research and use that money to fund gay conversion therapy camps.
Please tell me you're fucking kidding.
fluffydelusions
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streetsahead123
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Pence has batshit crazy stances on social issues though
Emails.
GoldenEye 007
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With a kid on the way.
DontBeThatGuy
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Pence is also deplorable but you like that, I assume.
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