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[Geometric-Crusher]

There is a saying that those who criticize a product want to buy it. Yes, I want to buy a Switch 2, but not this Switch 2.

Many users on the forum are 20 years old, maybe a little older, and they don't know that Nintendo was an incredible company that made cheap, high-tech products. Who doesn't remember the Game Cube? What incredible engineering, it was small, resistant to falls, had beautiful games since day one, and cost only $199. Who doesn't remember the SNES when they saw F-zero for the first time? But things have changed. The Switch 2 isn't very powerful (that's okay), but the screen isn't compatible with a $449 product from 2025. Am I the only one who noticed that? On the WiiU, I remember that the LCD screen was resistive, resistive in 2012. What does Nintendo gain by adopting this strategy of using bad components that influence the user experience?

Yes, I want to buy a Switch 2, but a Switch 2 OLED with a quality battery. I remember the GBC, man, that lasted about 20 hours of gameplay. What happened to Nintendo? This company is rich, they didn't need to be exposed like that. The less enthusiastic public is watching this, and Nintendo saying that it sold millions in Japan won't boost us. This type of FOMO doesn't solve the problem of the battery or the screen. That's the truth.

 

[I collect VHS tapes]

the battery is great in the Switch 2

Thread 'DF: Switch 2 power efficiency is brilliant and the battery is good.'

Jun 25, 2025

According to DF the power efficiency of the Switch 2 is brilliant and the battery is good.

Cyberpunk 2077 max power consumption
Docket ~22.6 Watts
Handheld ~11 Watts
Battery life 2:16 hours (Stress test)

• LordOcidax
• Replies: 33
• Forum: Gaming Discussion

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[Jacobson]

GAF, remember the good old days when PlayStation was $299? What happened to Sony?

 

[//DEVIL//]

I love the Switch 2. I have nothing against the system. Even the screen, I think that was too much drama. it plays fine. Even tried Sonic Mania. And I am very sensitive to smearing and ghosting.

maybe if it was a bigger screen, i would say yeah, not super good. But on a small screen, I don't notice anything really

The console is sleek in design. doesn't look like a toy like the Switch 1. I am loving its power to be honest for what its. Zelda BoTW Switch 2 edition is almost a remake thanks to its rock-solid frames and resolution. Mario Kart is stunning. Fast Fusion is pretty, and it cures the itch of Wipe out / F zero.

Donkey Kong looks promising, Metriod 120 frames.. fuck yeah man awesome games are coming. And in a couple of years, I don't mind paying for an OLED version if I want one and trade this one or give it to my kids if they want it. It's just 500$ :/

 

[Sooner]

GAF, remember the good old days when PlayStation was $299? What happened to Sony?

And a gallon of milk used to be 83 cents.

 

[March Climber]

What happened

What happened

 

[Hero_Select]

Sega is never coming back to the hardware market, let it go. Their best selling Sonic game couldn't even cross $5 million.

 

[Ozzie666]

Sega in consoles was never successful it was all smoke and mirrors. Let it go.
Nintendo got rich by being cheap and cost conscious. They make sacrifices on hardware.
It's all about the games, hardware is secondary but uniquer for their development teams.
They have a fanatic fanbase who will purchase multiple consoles several times at least for the Switch series. Save the OLED.
Nintendo is very good at this business.
Nintendo is ruthless.
Nintendo values it's IP and maintains their value.
Nintendo rarely gives away anything for free, even tours.

What happened is Nintendo knows it's crazy loyal fanbase and know what they can get away with.

Nintendo is ruthless hiding behind the child like image.

 

[Loomy]

I remember the GBC, man, that lasted about 20 hours of gameplay.

Switch 2 battery is terrible, but it's not helpful to compare it to a GBC. Cellphones in the late 90s, early 2000s lasted for days without needing a charge, and today you're lucky to get through a day without charging. Battery technology has improved, yes, but these devices are doing a lot more with more demanding hardware.

I also wouldn't all any of the components in the Switch 2 bad. The screen is likely an effort to keep costs down. As that goes down, they'll release an OLED version.

Also, the $199 you would have spent on a Gamecube in 2000 would be worth almost $400 today.

 

[jshackles]

OP's tag tells me this isn't the first time he's complained about Nintendo's price tag

 

[Codes 208]

GAF, remember the good old days when PlayStation was $299? What happened to Sony?

I remember when it was $599

 

[DaleinCalgary]

Who doesn't remember the Game Cube? What incredible engineering, it was small, resistant to falls,

Who dropped a gamecube

 

[Instant_Classic]

GameCube is one of the GOATs.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Switch 2 battery is terrible, but it's not helpful to compare it to a GBC. Cellphones in the late 90s, early 2000s lasted for days without needing a charge, and today you're lucky to get through a day without charging. Battery technology has improved, yes, but these devices are doing a lot more with more demanding hardware.

I also wouldn't all any of the components in the Switch 2 bad. The screen is likely an effort to keep costs down. As that goes down, they'll release an OLED version.

Also, the $199 you would have spent on a Gamecube in 2000 would be worth almost $400 today.

I didn't make myself clear, what I meant is that all products have compromises, but at that time Nintendo didn't use low-quality components. For example, the mini dvd was 1.5GB, which was bad, but the mini dvd itself wasn't a bad, low-quality mini dvd.

 

[AMSCD]

Who dropped a gamecube

With the handle, how could you?

 

[Ribi]

They realized they can ship old tech present it as amazing and recycle the same IPs and games and they would rake in the money.

 

[Guardian Monkey]

"Many users on the forum are 20 years old."

Correct attribution

"Many users on the forum have 20 year olds."

 

[TexMex]

OP unable to figure out why a battery on a 7 inch OLED panel wouldn't last as long as a 2 inch 8 bit system.

 

[GigaBowser]

you must escape never never lands ranch on the internet my friends

in the grass world everyone buying switch 2 because its armazing

 

[March Climber]

OP's tag tells me this isn't the first time he's complained about Nintendo's price tag

As far as I've known, OP has always been the resident Sega history/philosophy teacher of this forum.

 

[Bonfires Down]

OP outside Nintendo HQ:

 

[Guardian Monkey]

Price vs performance of the tablet isnt bad relatively speaking. You will probably get a better screen and battery life by waiting till the v2 version. If you want to wait for the revision, that makes sense.

 

[Danjin44]

For me Switch 2 was worth every penny and few weeks we are getting Donkey Kong which super fun.

Give me games I want then I'm more than happy to pay it…I have the money to do so.

If you think Switch 2 is not hight tech enough go get PS5 pro and pay extra if you want play physical copy.

 

[NeoIkaruGAF]

I remember the GBC, man, that lasted about 20 hours of gameplay.

The OG GBA was quite close to that, too.
The lack of any kind of screen lighting tends to help a lot with battery consumption, you know. Just get better eyes and play with the backlight off, I guess?

 

[Chukhopops]

I remember the GBC, man, that lasted about 20 hours of gameplay. What happened to Nintendo?

It was 10 hours according to official specs.

But either way you won't see a 2025 handheld drawing 0.6W with decent capabilities, there are some physical limits at play here.

 

[Randall365]

I tend to play docked so the screen does not bother me.

 

[daxgame]

What happened was that no one bought the gamecube. pretty simple.

 

[Trilobit]

The real NS2 will be the OLED version with better batterytime and screen. Much like the real DS was the DS Lite.

Ugly thing

Wondrous thing

 

[Celine]

People who don't understand fun won't understand Nintendo and will think something has changed in Nintendo when nothing had significantly because they are oblivious to Nintendo's philosophy.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

I agree modern consoles are trying to occupy a no man's land where you neither get good pricing nor good performance. A cheap console with games that look two or three generations behind but make up for it with clever design and art direction is a good product imho. A super expensive console with cutting edge technology inside of it that rivals high end PCs is a good product, too. What do we get? The worst of both worlds, relatively expensive for a console, but performing like shit and constantly disappointing.

 

[apple_of_enlightenment]

Prices haven't changed... much. Inflation: a $200 Gamecube in 2001 is $360 today.

 

[DenchDeckard]

Switch 2 is dope. You're loss OP. ITs just as innovative and extremely well made (outside of the screen quality but the build is great)

 

[seething left]

The growth of devoted fanbases, combined with Nintendo's clever market strategy, has created the impression that they face little genuine competition, leading consumers to buy their products even when they aren't particularly impressive. Furthermore, a significant portion of Nintendo's sales come from people receiving their consoles as presents from their wives boyfriends, and those are usually not very price-elastic.

 

[crackajack]

I guess the last cutting edge cheap handheld was the PS Vita. Graphics that smartphones struggle to deliver even today without overheating. And an OLED screen that had some problems too, but still was state of the art then.
Nintendo certainly cheaped out at the screen, but I am not sure what other hardware they could have used to get better battery life. Nvidia with their DLSS are just good even though they have not really done extensive research for mobile components, all other ARM chips can't offer anything similar. Only maybe cooperating with Apple and getting their M chips might have been an option. Either way no cheap solution.

 

[Zacfoldor]

Nothing has changed. These moves were necessary for a healthy future for Nintendo. There is a large group of Nintendo haters that churn up stuff whenever they see a chance. It's just noise. Base yourself, don't be so easily swayed by agitprop. Enjoy the games. Nintendo haters will tell you they never made a good game. Remember not all is as it seems on the Internet. in the world of grass touchers Nintendo is king.

 

[hussar16]

Your headline starting to make sense yet?

 

[ADiTAR]

The growth of devoted fanbases, combined with Nintendo's clever market strategy, has created the impression that they face little genuine competition, leading consumers to buy their products even when they aren't particularly impressive. Furthermore, a significant portion of Nintendo's sales come from people receiving their consoles as presents from their wives boyfriends, and those are usually not very price-elastic.

Also gays.

 

[justiceiro]

The Switch 2 isn't very powerful (that's okay), but the screen isn't compatible with a $449 product from 2025.

How many handhelds have a 120hz vrr 1080p screen for less than this price?

 

[hemo memo]

GAF, remember the good old days when PlayStation was $299? What happened to Sony?

That was back when Sony still pretended to like us. Now they act like they're doing you a favour.

 

[cireza]

Even tried Sonic Mania.

Yeah no, the blur is unbearable in 2D side scrollers. Perfect for Picross though !

120hz

Utterly useless considering how much blur there is. You won't even be able to notice any improvement.

They were close to having a great product, but they shat the bed with that screen.

 

[hemo memo]

The real NS2 will be the OLED version with better batterytime and screen. Much like the real DS was the DS Lite.

Ugly thing

Atrocious looking.

 

[6502]

Nes was poor quality build vs Sega MS (however great it was), GBA original had awfully dim screen. DSlite hinges broke, Gameboy original screen was a compromise too. Nothing has changed.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Prices haven't changed... much. Inflation: a $200 Gamecube in 2001 is $360 today.

I didn't make myself clear, what I meant is that all products have compromises, but at that time Nintendo didn't use low-quality components. For example, the mini dvd was 1.5GB, which was bad, but the mini dvd itself wasn't a bad, low-quality mini dvd. The GB was monochrome but at least it was very cheap, the battery lasted 20 hours of gameplay and only required 2 AA batteries in the Pocket version, The Switch 2 makes no sense, except for Nintendo leaving these things to use as wow factor in a new version, something they could have done from day one.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

Nes was poor quality build vs Sega MS (however great it was), GBA original had awfully dim screen. DSlite hinges broke, Gameboy original screen was a compromise too. Nothing has changed.

No, the NES was completely cutting-edge, the most powerful of the Japanese consoles of 1982 and 1983.
The Mark 3 is from 1985 and only existed because the SG-1000 didn't have the power to impress consumers.

 

[RoboFu]

The switch has great specs and hardware for its price and size. Adding an oled would have increased the cost for sure.

Nintendo made the right choice to choose performance over screen tech at this time.

 

[apple_of_enlightenment]

I didn't make myself clear, what I meant is that all products have compromises, but at that time Nintendo didn't use low-quality components. For example, the mini dvd was 1.5GB, which was bad, but the mini dvd itself wasn't a bad, low-quality mini dvd. The GB was monochrome but at least it was very cheap, the battery lasted 20 hours of gameplay and only required 2 AA batteries in the Pocket version, The Switch 2 makes no sense, except for Nintendo leaving these things to use as wow factor in a new version, something they could have done from day one.

Ah the Switch 2 is great hardware! There'll be nothing that will equal its specs at that form factor and level of quality for years to come.

Remember those AAs lasted 20 hours but you had to go out and buy more. Switch 2 recharges effectively infinitely.

I loved the GC too, in my heart nothing can ever beat it!

 

[Ozzie666]

Let me ask you this OP, poor screen or some other hardware sacrifices or laying off 20% to 30% of your game developers.
Keep in mind you still get amazing games like the upcoming DK title with option A.

 

[Chukhopops]

Yeah no, the blur is unbearable in 2D side scrollers. Perfect for Picross though !


Utterly useless considering how much blur there is. You won't even be able to notice any improvement.

They were close to having a great product, but they shat the bed with that screen.

Out of curiosity I loaded Sonic Mania on the Switch 2 and it looks... fine?

Only problem I could see is that some transparency effects and some special stages looked a bit weird with the upscaling done on Switch 1 games.

To be honest the only game where I notice the ghosting is Okami HD since this game has a lot of white/black transitions AND is a bit blurry to begin with.

 

[cireza]

Out of curiosity I loaded Sonic Mania on the Switch 2 and it looks... fine?

You are probably used to looking at blur so much you don't see blur anymore. I also have a CRT at home where I can run pretty much the same game. People have totally forgotten what it looks like to have a scrolling without ANY blur at all.

 

[Heimdall_Xtreme]

What I am sure of is that Iwata would not have allowed that Keycard shit.