Segata Sanshiro
Member
Bikes are pretty sweet. There are some great bike trails back where I'm from, but now that I'm in the prairies, it's all wheat and few hills. Sadness.Pharmacy said:
Why Did The PS3 Fail?
- Thread starter typhonsentra
- Start date
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Thank the Taru Jesus. That means the Dreamcast didn't fail, after all.Jonas said:
SEGA
YOU CAN RELEASE YOUR NEXT SYSTEM NOW
TURNS OUT THE DREAMCAST WAS A SUCCESS
Bulla564 said:
How hard is it to understand that the majority of PS2 owners are casual Maddenites, not FF freaks?
Phoenix Down said:
That figure is taking the cumulative total since launch, which is nowhere near the same as outselling it 6 to 1 on a month by month basis. It is very possible that the 360 has outsold the PS3 every month after the PS3s launch.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Well, think of threads like this as an enema for GAF. It lets bish and Dragona flush out some of the more harmful turds.rs7k said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Yeah, I think there's still one yet to come. If not, then the last one was what...February? March? If you're using any sort of software support as the metric, it's hard to prove any system a failure.Jonas said:
DemDereNads
Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Not really if you prefer logic over extremes.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Ahh DDN, do you really want to tussle today?DemDereNads said:
Segata Sanshiro said:
So the PS3 has failed based on your findings from this book released just months after the PS3's release, yet you insinuate that the Dreamcast, which still has a single game to be released, isn't a failure?
If this is true, what is the PS3 to you, having hundreds of titles yet to be released?
Probably the most contradictory statement of all time.
/thread
Segata Sanshiro said:
Ok so Dreamcast has limited game releases in Japan. I was unaware of that (that's actually kind of cool). Anyway, I just think it's a bit early to call it a failure. Worldwide the units are selling well as far as I knew.
Comparing Ps3 to Dreamcast may be a bit over the top in my opinion. If software support isn't a good metric, then what is? Dreamcast was a failure, but Ps3 is far from being in that same column.
Phoenix Down
Banned
belvedere said:
This thread is a trap.. Lets bail
DemDereNads
Member
Segata Sanshiro said:
Well, I don't know... What exactly do you mean by Tussle? Sounds like a pastry of some sort...
if you are asking me if I would like to make some pastries, well, I might be inclined to say, YES!
You're right, bringing up Dreamcast was quite a grasp.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Ultimately, it's a complicated question, and given the limited information we are privy to, we can only try to compare vs competition and compare vs presumed expectations. Obviously, Sony has some clever people working for them who will ensure the PS3 turns a profit, so I don't think we can say it will be a failure in that regard any more than the Gamecube and N64 were.Jonas said:
That said, the Playstation 3 is in third place, with no obvious sign of catching up to either of its competitors anytime soon. It's also performing poorly in terms of hardware sales when compared to other recent systems. Another issue is software sales - they aren't competing here, either. And unfortunately this all gets painted with an extra coat of sheen just by being the follow-up to the most successful system of all-time.
Did Sony plan to be in third place? Did they plan to have their software sales on multiplatform titles dwarfed by the 360? I can't imagine that they did. The PS3 is at best a disappointment from a marketshare standpoint, but I don't think it's reaching to call it a failure, either.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Are you a doctor?belvedere said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
He'll have to go for turkey bacon though.The Sphinx said:
Pizza toppings are Segata Sanshiro's #1 technique for derailing a thread completely, by the way.
Jonas said:
I think this is easy. Lets just look at history to determine your attitude. Based on what we have seen so far, you have three choices:
1) If you think that the Gamecube was a failure and the PS3 is a failure then you judge failure by expectations, market position, and support.
2) If you think that the Gamecube was a success and the PS3 is a success then you consider making a profit to be a success (which I think the PS3 eventually will be profitable).
3) If you think one was a failure and the other a success, then you are a fanboy.
DemDereNads
Member
mepaco said:
Or perhaps he doesn't believe in extremes? Or perhaps he thinks 8 months is too short to determine the success of something when it will be out for 6-7 years easy?:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
The real Mr. Belvedere was a master of sarcasm. Oh, Mr. Belvedere.taconinja said:
Streaks on the china,
never mattered before,
who cares.
When you dropped kicked your jacket
As you came through the door,
No one glared.
But sometimes things get turned around
And no ones spared.
All hands look out below
heres a change in the status quo.
Gonna need all the help that we can get.
According to our new arrival
Life is more than mere survival
We just might live the good life yet.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
PS3's future definitely looks brighter, but in sales terms these first months have been pretty similar. Though 9 months in the US DC is a bit ahead, since it wasn't so supply constrained by an attempted worldwide launch.Jonas said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Oh no you squidn'tJoshuaJSlone said:
Segata Sanshiro said:
So with that said, I would say a big determining factor would be software exclusives. Not timed exclusives, but tride and true exclusives that would turn around sales. Wouldn't you agree? As far as the hardware sales go I'm curious to see the exact number. I also think this holiday season will foreshadow the rest of 08 too.
DemDereNads said:
Those are not extremes. The only thing missing is the case in which the PS3 rockets up to PS2 level dominance. If they are not in first, receiving the majority of 3rd party support, then they did not meet expectations and have lost market share (ala Gamecube, though maybe not to that extent).
belvedere said:
Nice, pick on the junior even though everyone else also shot you down. Your post was stupid, deal with it.
BenNX74205
Member
The Sphinx said:
Lisa: Dad, those all come from the same animal.
Homer: Heh heh heh. Ooh, yeah, right, Lisa. A wonderful, magical animal.
Things that go well with pineapple on pizza, and isn't pork: barbecue chicken; onions
BravoSuperStar
Member
This topic has turned into a massive trainwreck......and yet I cannot look away.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
It's entirely possible, but their competition isn't going to be standing still, either.Jonas said:
I think the PS3's going to have a really hard time shaking the "loser-stink" it's got on it now. I've never seen a console that had it shake it before, so being a good little statistician, I have trouble imagining it ever happening.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Oh god, Jocchan...you've never had?Jocchan said:
DemDereNads
Member
mepaco said:
You are throwing the terms success & failure around with no middle ground.
Gamecube made Nintendo Money
XBox got Microsoft into the Video Game Industry
PS3 will most likely end up making Sony money, as well as helping in the format war, and anyway you look at it, 8 months is way too soon to start calling things success or failure.