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Why I love and hate pc gaming, confessions of a pc gamer

Warning: The following post was brought on by years worth of heartache in owning a pc and dealing with the unexpected. The following is the true life story of one man's clash with the cold, hard world of pc gaming.

I bought a PC around 3 years ago. It was my first, and I knew it would be trouble. Updating drivers, video cards, ram, and all that other shit scared me. However, I had to have it. Console gaming was getting stale and I had seen one to many threads on kickass pc titles I couldn't play. So, I spoke to a guy online who was supposed to be knowledgeable about pc's and he helped me configure my very own Dell computer for a cool $3000 ("Oh yeah Biff, with all that money you get a killer 20 gig HD! Nah, you won't need anymore space.")

What would follow over the course of the next three years would be a tale of horrors so gruesome and complex Stephen King and Dean Koontz together on a three day weekend could not have dreamed up worse circumstances. The first problem I encountered was my GeForce 32 MB card. I bought my pc specifically to play Tribes 2 and the guy who gave me advice assured me that card would be enough to play tribes with full settings ("While not the most powerful, its the Ferrari of video cards!").

Of course, it wasn't and I played tribes 2 with shitty medium detail for a good part of the first year I had it. Still, the game was far more exciting then anything I had ever experienced on a console. People flying all around, huge explosions that shook my room thanks to this thing called a "subwoofer" and an emphasis on strategy and speed. I was hooked on pc gaming.

After a little while, I would learn certain tricks from message boards like this one on how to speed up my pc. Things like turning unnessesary start menu programs off! Who'd a thunk it!?!?!. This leads me to one of my all time source of heartache problems on the pc, the "oh so close yet so far message board jargon".

Every time I'd see a cool thread about something pc related, I'd want to get involved into it. Lets say I saw a thread about people discussing emulation. Me, being completely clueless at the time would ask how to get started. I'd get such elaborate responses as

"Mirc"

"google.com"

Don't get me wrong; I know this place and other places like it aren't tech support (wait till I get to that). But, it was a real bitch learning how to do all this shit myself. Most of the time when I asked a question on how to get started, I'd get a myriad of one-word answers or people giving me some type of "computer command" response I had no idea about. Fortunately, there were/are some people who gave a shit and actually took the time to explain things to someone computer illiterate like myself. They were far better then a God-awful thing called "tech support".

Ah...Dell tech support. How I love my computer shutting down for no apparent reason and being forced to call into DELL at 3 AM where I am then transferred to fucking PAKISTAN and made to wait for 30 minutes while the support rep asks me if I see an amber light.

Then there were the little things people forgot to tell me about the computer and its accessories in general. Such as?

You have to clean your case with compressed air every so often. That includes taking out the video card and totally cleaning the fan. A good indication of when to clean your card is when you smell something like burnt cigarettes emanating from your pc. It only took me three burned out video cards to figure this out (Thank GOD for circuit city and their flexible take back rules). All that time I was asking people on tech support boards why my graphics cards stopped working, no one ever said "clean the dust". Shit, I thought it stayed clean in there. I never had to dust the insides of my PS2.

When shopping for a MAS stick for PC emulation, don't buy one that is "PC ready". No, that would be to simple. The reason why you don't buy a pc ready MAS stick is because it doesn't work. The board it uses inside makes the pc think you are jamming down on a bunch of keys all at once, and you are lucky if the command for a fireball is met before next week. So, what do you do if you want to use a MAS stick for the pc? Buy it PS2 ready and get a PS2 to USB adaptor. One thing though, just make sure you get the right adaptor. Some aren't compatible. It took me two tries to get the right one.

Make sure you don't buy a PC with any high tech cutting edge bullshit. It'll be obsolete before the dawn, and what’s worse is it may not be compatible for future upgrades. I managed to have the great luck of getting a PC that only takes RD ram, the most expensive ram out there (and yeah, it has to be installed in pairs. Almost $300 for 500 MB, great deal!).

Then there's this bullshit with processors I have to deal with. For some reason, my model can only be upgraded to a 2.0 Ghz processor, or if I get some type of add on I can make it a 2.3 Ghz. All this will cost me over $400. The best part is it won't be enough power in a few months. So, I'm skipping it and dealing with sub par processor power in the current games. They look beautiful thanks to my vid card, its just when they move at 10 fps I get a little disheartened.

People giving you advice nearly always having an agenda. I remember people kept telling me to stick with my Windows 2000 OS and not to switch to XP. That I should upgrade the RAM and card, that I would get improved performance and in game stability from that. Well, I did and it wasn't the boost I was looking for. It sure cost allot though. When I finally made the switch to XP, my system performed beautifully. I didn't get kicked out of online games anymore, and the frame rate was much better.

Trying to figure out what the next PC to buy and having people tell you "just build it yourself, n00b". Newsflash MacGyver, I don't know how. Will you come over to my house and help me? "Its really easy"...uh huh. Let me just go buy my soldering iron and renew my house insurance.

What is the moral of all this heartbreak? You have to go through a bunch of hell to see a light at the end of the tunnel. No one will ever tell you everything you need to know, and getting multiple opinions won't change that fact. Your going to get screwed somewhere down the line, but if you preserver it will make you stronger and you'll know how to take care of that problem and ones similar to it in the future.

Despite all this bullshit, the PC has been worth it. The games kick fucking ass. X-Box Live is great, and I'll never trade it in. But, for a FPS junkie like myself I could never go back to the controller FPS. I've tried countless times with Riddick and all the other hot console FPS titles. It just doesn't work. The trade off is worth it though. Tribes 2, Global Ops, UT 2004...there's nothing like these on the console.

Whenever I see a port, they are just dumbed down in graphics, scale, and multi. Its just hard to go back to anything but 1024X768 res now...Don't get me wrong. I'll always love my consoles. Always.

Aside from porn and music, the pc has one last saving grace. Classic online 2-D fighters. The X-Box may trump this in the future, but in the mean time I've got Samurai Shodown II online. That's kick ass.

I'm looking at the end of this piece, and it seems like the hassel outweighs the benefits. Maybe, maybe it does. But, I'm getting ready to buy a new PC and do all this shit over again. What does that tell you (Other then I'm stupid and a glutton for punishment)? I'll tell you what it means! That pcs are damn fun and worth it…if your willing to accept its bite on the cash, its near instant obsolete hardware, and the days it just decides to stop working. But really, its not so bad as I make it out to be…;)
 

Razoric

Banned
PC Gamer 4 Lyfe!

With perfect online, customization out that butt, emulation for old console games and the mouse/keyboard for FPS/RTS, nothing can compare to the PC.
 

dark10x

Digital Foundry pixel pusher
Learning all of that yourself is MUCH BETTER than having people tell you exactly what to do...

Every bad experience can be chalked up on the board o' knowledge. It's a good thing...
 

nitewulf

Member
i agree with dark, all of us learned all that shit on our own, believe it or not. your future pc experiences will be much better and smoother. we all gotta start somewhere...
 

Korranator

Member
I used to work for Dell tech support *shivers*. Dell uses pos cases that causes 75% of their no post issues. A small piece of advice, build your own computer next time. All it takes is a screwdriver, following directions, and the abilty to use google to find information.
 

SyNapSe

Member
This next time you'll be able to save yourself a ton of trouble and money! Like not buying RDRAM :) You can seriously buy a good PC for gaming really cheap (minus the vid card).

If you buy online, strip the RAM down to 128MB minimum.. then go to crucial and have them match up and get a 512 MB stick.

The reason you could only go to a 2 GHZ processor is a limitation on your motherboard, but what thats really not that bad if its 3 years old.
 
I also agree with dark.

Think of it this way. Do illegal street racers depend on the car manufacturers to make the performance mods for them? It'd be nice if we could just buy a tuned car ready for racing but it doesn't work that way. You pretty much have to become a mechanic in order to do the thing you really love, racing.

PC gaming is kinda that way unfortunately. There are headaches associated with it but you can learn from those headaches and become someone that's decently knowledgable with PCs all while trying to get those games to run at a good clip.

So while a ricer has to deal with modding his car, he's also gaining knowledge about how to fix them as well. Likewise, you may not always need to screw around with a PC just to get it to play games, but you'll have that knowledge if it starts acting up for any other reason as well.

Or alternatively, get yourself a PC geek friend that's there in town with you. ;)
 

Neo_ZX

Member
I long for the days of editing autoexec.bat and config.sys trying to squeeze as much conventional memory out as possible.

MechWarrior II was the game that made me go on my upgrading rampage. Damn I STILL haven't finished it!
 
I know, I know. And, I sort of agree. I knew it would be rough getting this thing the way I like it, this thread was more or less to vent. However, it has sparked my interest in getting a new pc. When I look at the brand name PC's like DELL, I can't see myslef buying from them again. I look at Alienware, and although it looks cool as hell I can't see myself spending 3000+ on it for everything I like.

At the same time, I'm not building my own pc. I don't believe it as easy as everyone says. Installing my Radeon 9800 has been a headache for various reasons. Building a whole pc from scratch? No way, not this cowboy. I'd need someone there to walk me through it, unfortunately I've killed and eaten all my friends who had knowledge about this type of thing.

So, that leaves me considering buying from one of those cheap-o ready made pc sites I've seen listed in threads here. Things like ibuypower.com. Are those good and reliable?

Here's a few more questions for anyone willing to answer.

-Here's my current PC's specs.

1.7 Ghz
640 MB RD Ram
Radeon 9800 Pro
Sound blaster live!
20 GB HD
19 inch monitor

It seems like a waste to scrap everything. I'd keep my monitor so I don't have to buy a new one, and my radeon 9800 pro is still a kickass card. How about any of that other stuff? I figure a new sound card is needed, and I know I need a new processor. But, how about the RAM? Let me guess, its not compatible.

-If you were in my shoes, what type of pc would you get? I want something that would not be a hassel to upgrade in the future like my current Dell pc is.

-How much money should I be looking to spend on a PC that I want to be able to play DOOM III and Half Life 2 at everything maxxed with 60 fps?

-Anything else you think I'm leaving out in my search for a new pc?

Thanks gentlemen.
 
in most of that first post, you sounded like the people i hate

always asking qusetions for everything instead of trying to figure some things out yourself...

and "google" is one of my favorite answers...

if i'm not being paid and it's not friends/family, i am much less inclined to help someone out...

like yesterday... i got paid to $25 set up a PC!

funnily enough, it wa a dell.

i looked at the instructions a grand total of two times... once to see how to put in the printer cartridges and once to see how to hook up the speakers...

$25!! and i could have charged double...


oh yeah.. keep the monitor and the video card.. scrap enerything else, or buy a cheap video card and use it as a second/backup/toy system...
 
Biff, you really should build your own PC. After reading about your experiences in your first post, you are definitely ready to build your own. I can't stress enough that with a little bit of preparation and reading you can do it easily. Today's PC motherboards are not that complex. Much more standardized and sturdy. I built my very first PC last August in less than 3 hours with only a few hours worth of reading PC hardware sites beforehand (and then really it was only about memory and processors, everything else is pretty much self-explanatory) and it booted perfectly on the first try and I've had very few problems since (all related to gfx driver updates, which would happen even on a manufactured PC).
 
The Faceless Master said:
in most of that first post, you sounded like the people i hate

always asking qusetions for everything instead of trying to figure some things out yourself...

and "google" is one of my favorite answers...

if i'm not being paid and it's not friends/family, i am much less inclined to help someone out...

like yesterday... i got paid to $25 set up a PC!

funnily enough, it wa a dell.

i looked at the instructions a grand total of two times... once to see how to put in the printer cartridges and once to see how to hook up the speakers...

$25!! and i could have charged double...


oh yeah.. keep the monitor and the video card.. scrap enerything else, or buy a cheap video card and use it as a second/backup/toy system...

Shit, you sound just like one of the people I hate to. I'm glad we have something in common.

Here's some info for you. I have tried to figure all that shit out myself. I didn't know how. That is why I asked for help. If your going to give an answer, make it a decent one instead of some one word bullshit. Otherwise its a waste of time. Congratulations on the $25. Don't spend it all in one place.

Thanks for the advice about the card and monitor. I figured that was the case. Thanks for confirming it.
 
The unfortunate thing is, if you don't have the knowledge/inclination to build your own, PC gaming probably isn't for you. Shit happens and if you're depending on tech support to solve these things, it's not worth it (IMO). You seem to be happy despite your problems, but life would be soo much easier if you'd just bite the bullet and learn what the hardware was doing so you could build/diagnose your own (And save a ton in the process).
 
DJ Demon J said:
Biff, you really should build your own PC. After reading about your experiences in your first post, you are definitely ready to build your own. I can't stress enough that with a little bit of preparation and reading you can do it easily. Today's PC motherboards are not that complex. Much more standardized and sturdy. I built my very first PC last August in less than 3 hours with only a few hours worth of reading PC hardware sites beforehand (and then really it was only about memory and processors, everything else is pretty much self-explanatory) and it booted perfectly on the first try and I've had very few problems since (all related to gfx driver updates, which would happen even on a manufactured PC).

Your post is very reassuring, I admit. But, everytime someone has given me advice on upgrading or whatnot and a problem arises I'm up shits creek without a paddle for a good portion of time. When imagining building my own computer I get images of me cutting some crucial wire and watching the whole thing explode. Surely I need some type of tool(s) that I don't already have?
 

SyNapSe

Member
Biff Hardbody said:
It seems like a waste to scrap everything. I'd keep my monitor so I don't have to buy a new one, and my radeon 9800 pro is still a kickass card. How about any of that other stuff? I figure a new sound card is needed, and I know I need a new processor. But, how about the RAM? Let me guess, its not compatible.

Well, you could purchase a motherboard that would use RDRAM, but it's probably going to be easiest to buy a normal board that supports DDR or DDR2 (if you wait a bit).

- I would keep the 20 gig HD. That's perfect for using as a Windows only OS hard drive. Load NOTHING else on it.. then you can easily reload the OS by formatting the HD and not have to worry about moving files around or backing them up. Keep all your data/applications on your new large HD.

I would say building your own PC is barely worth it anymore. Unless you buy parts from all different online sites.. the amount of money you can save is very minimal. I purchased a stripped Compaq system last may.. 2200+, I stripped the RAM down to 128 MB minimum, and took off the monitor as I had one already. I paid about $350 after some rebates.. they had a good sale going on at the time. Then I bought a stick of RAM off crucial and a month or two later purchased a better video card.

Dell used to have crazy good sales sometimes.. haven't noticed much recently.
 

Tabris

Member
The reason why people don't want to help you is because it's quite annoying to do so.

Explaining anything computer related to someone who isn't on your "level" of expertise is an excerise in tedium. I rather stick nails in my eyes than walk someone through building their own computer.
 
Tabris said:
The reason why people don't want to help you is because it's quite annoying to do so.

Explaining anything computer related to someone who isn't on your "level" of expertise is an excerise in tedium. I rather stick nails in my eyes than walk someone through building their own computer.

Great, people who don't want to help me can go fly a kyte. Its when they come into a thread I'm using for advice purpouses and pollute it with useless bullshit. Then there are other guys who actually help with clean, clear info. Guess which category your post falls into.

Well, you could purchase a motherboard that would use RDRAM, but it's probably going to be easiest to buy a normal board that supports DDR or DDR2 (if you wait a bit).

- I would keep the 20 gig HD. That's perfect for using as a Windows only OS hard drive. Load NOTHING else on it.. then you can easily reload the OS by formatting the HD and not have to worry about moving files around or backing them up. Keep all your data/applications on your new large HD.

I would say building your own PC is barely worth it anymore. Unless you buy parts from all different online sites.. the amount of money you can save is very minimal. I purchased a stripped Compaq system last may.. 2200+, I stripped the RAM down to 128 MB minimum, and took off the monitor as I had one already. I paid about $350 after some rebates.. they had a good sale going on at the time. Then I bought a stick of RAM off crucial and a month or two later purchased a better video card.

Dell used to have crazy good sales sometimes.. haven't noticed much recently.

Thanks very much for the useful info, Synapse. I sincerely appreciate it.
 
Well I was coming from a Mac background and built my first PC last July. As others have said, went like a breeze. Only tool required was a screwdriver and booted on 1st post. The only things you really need to do research on is getting a good power supply and depending on which CPU you choose, going to a major forum and finding out which motherboard is considered the most stable for that platform. Those 2 things can make/break your CPU's stablility.
 
Biff Hardbody said:
Your post is very reassuring, I admit. But, everytime someone has given me advice on upgrading or whatnot and a problem arises I'm up shits creek without a paddle for a good portion of time. When imagining building my own computer I get images of me cutting some crucial wire and watching the whole thing explode. Surely I need some type of tool(s) that I don't already have?

There is no wire cutting involved and the only tool you'll need is a phillips head screwdriver. That's about it.

Find some other way to get online. If you get stuck or you're unsure about a particular step, you'll always have some way of asking online what to do next.
 
ravingloon said:
Well I was coming from a Mac background and built my first PC last July. As others have said, went like a breeze. Only tool required was a screwdriver and booted on 1st post. The only things you really need to do research on is getting a good power supply and depending on which CPU you choose, going to a major forum and finding out which motherboard is considered the most stable for that platform. Those 2 things can make/break your CPU's stablility.

Damn. That does sound easy. There isn't more to it? Thanks for the tips, I'll remember them.
 
The Shadow said:
There is no wire cutting involved and the only tool you'll need is a phillips head screwdriver. That's about it.

If you can build with LEGO, you can build a computer… its just as easy.

I feel scared yet excited at the same time. Tell me more. Let me get this straight. I can build my own PC with no other tool except a screwdriver. A screwdriver is all I need to lock the various boards and whatnot into my case and make everything safe and secure?

edit: thanks shadow and everyone else who gave meaningful advice. I'll lok into building my own pc. Still, I'd like to hear some recommendations about good stores to buy from online and exactly what I should be looking for spec wise.
 
Biff Hardbody said:
Your post is very reassuring, I admit. But, everytime someone has given me advice on upgrading or whatnot and a problem arises I'm up shits creek without a paddle for a good portion of time. When imagining building my own computer I get images of me cutting some crucial wire and watching the whole thing explode. Surely I need some type of tool(s) that I don't already have?

Take heed to the words printed on the cover of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy--DON'T PANIC.

The only tools you need are a Phillips and/or flathead screwdriver. I know it's a cliche, but building a PC is really just plug and play. Each component (especially your motherboard) has detailed and easy-to-follow step-by-step directions to assemble your PC. The process is really simple: Get your case (I bought a case with power supply and case fans pre-installed to make my life a little easier), install your motherboard (the nicer cases even have little lunch trays to slide the mobo onto and into the right position and screw it in). Install your drives into their bays (simple matter, like sticking a book into a shelf (and screwing it into place). The power cables are easy to identify, you can't ever put the wrong cable in the wrong slot (I suggest getting round power/data cables to make your PC less cluttered on the inside and to make it easier to bend them to fit your installation). Install your RAM (you've probably done this before). Install your PCI/AGP cards. Once everything is connected, flick the switch! BAM, stick in a CD with the OS of your choice and you're done. It really isn't that hard.
 

nubbe

Member
Biff Hardbody said:
I feel scared yet excited at the same time. Tell me more. Let me get this straight. I can build my own PC with no other tool except a screwdriver. A screwdriver is all I need to lock the various boards and whatnot into my case and make everything safe and secure?

LEGO and screwing is all you need to know
 
Biff Hardbody said:
I feel scared yet excited at the same time. Tell me more. Let me get this straight. I can build my own PC with no other tool except a screwdriver. A screwdriver is all I need to lock the various boards and whatnot into my case and make everything safe and secure?

Yes. Just a philips head screwdriver. If you need to install a heatsink on a CPU, you'll probably need a regular screwdriver.

But yeah, just screwdrivers. No soldering or wire clipping or welding or anything like that. ;)
 
DJ Demon J said:
Take heed to the words printed on the cover of The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy--DON'T PANIC.

The only tools you need are a Phillips and/or flathead screwdriver. I know it's a cliche, but building a PC is really just plug and play. Each component (especially your motherboard) has detailed and easy-to-follow step-by-step directions to assemble your PC. The process is really simple: Get your case (I bought a case with power supply and case fans pre-installed to make my life a little easier), install your motherboard (the nicer cases even have little lunch trays to slide the mobo onto and into the right position and screw it in). Install your drives into their bays (simple matter, like sticking a book into a shelf (and screwing it into place). The power cables are easy to identify, you can't ever put the wrong cable in the wrong slot (I suggest getting round power/data cables to make your PC less cluttered on the inside and to make it easier to bend them to fit your installation). Install your RAM (you've probably done this before). Install your PCI/AGP cards. Once everything is connected, flick the switch! BAM, stick in a CD with the OS of your choice and you're done. It really isn't that hard.

Shit, that does sound easy. I'm definitely considering this now. Thanks Demon...sincerely.
 
Biff Hardbody said:
I feel scared yet excited at the same time. Tell me more. Let me get this straight. I can build my own PC with no other tool except a screwdriver. A screwdriver is all I need to lock the various boards and whatnot into my case and make everything safe and secure?

edit: thanks shadow and everyone else who gave meaningful advice. I'll lok into building my own pc. Still, I'd like to hear some recommendations about good stores to buy from online and exactly what I should be looking for spec wise.
no, you also need the ability to learn and the perception to realize things like cleaning the dust out of your case without someone telling you to.

and i'm not trying (hard anyway) to be mean, it's just that the best advice you can get is to try and learn on your own.
 
Again, thanks fellahs. I am nervous about building my own PC. We'll see. It does sound damn easy though, especially after reading Demon's post...

I'm still going to keep the lookout for buying a pc out of the box. If anyone knows good sites, please list 'em.
 
The Faceless Master said:
no, you also need the ability to learn and the perception to realize things like cleaning the dust out of your case without someone telling you to.

and i'm not trying (hard anyway) to be mean, it's just that the best advice you can get is to try and learn on your own.

Thanks for the really meaningful post. As far as going out and trying to learn on my own, well you make it sound like I'm going off to camp for my first time. I just want a box that allows me to play cool video games. It doesn't have to be so hard.
 

Tabris

Member
Biff Hardbody said:
Great, people who don't want to help me can go fly a kyte. Its when they come into a thread I'm using for advice purpouses and pollute it with useless bullshit. Then there are other guys who actually help with clean, clear info. Guess which category your post falls into.

I'm just responding to your comments about people not helping.

You have to understand, if you know anything about computers at all, you probabaly get bombared in real life with questions/people asking you to do stuff. So it becomes very tiring.

Before my current job (which isn't directly IT), I used to do IT (and web design) for an IR firm. When people asked "What do you do?" I would mention how I managed the IT for this company, there next question would be "Great! I have this problem...".

So I'm just trying to explain why people refrain from helping. They're most likely not trying to be rude.
 
Biff Hardbody said:
Thanks for the really meaningful post. As far as going out and trying to learn on my own, well you make it sound like I'm going off to camp for my first time. I just want a box that allows me to play cool video games. It doesn't have to be so hard.
that's the thing, it's not hard if you read up on stuff and sparingly ask some questions here and there... people can tell if you have been trying by the questions you ask, because you will already know some things... most people don't want to commit to help someone out who doesnt know anything unless they will get something out of it...
 
Tabris said:
I'm just responding to your comments about people not helping.

You have to understand, if you know anything about computers at all, you get bombared in real life with questions/people asking you to do stuff. So it becomes very tiring.

Before my current job (which isn't directly IT), I used to do IT (and web design) for an IR firm. When people asked "What do you do?" I would mention how I managed the IT for this company, there next question would be "Great! I have this problem...".

So I'm just trying to explain why people refrain from helping. They're most likely not trying to be rude.

The Faceless Master said:
that's the thing, it's not hard if you read up on stuff and sparingly ask some questions here and there... people can tell if you have been trying by the questions you ask, because you will already know some things... most people don't want to commit to help someone out who doesnt know anything unless they will get something out of it...


My feeling is this. If you don't want to help, don't. That's fine, I understand it is a very boring subject. However, this is a video game message board. Heaven forbid I post some questions about a computer on it. Like I said, I have no problem when people don't want to help. Fine, don't help. However, if one posts something like "Do it yourself" its a waste of time.
 
I think as a PC Gamer, unless you are rich, to just upgrade everything every 2 to 2.5 years. I know some folks like to tweak and upgrade. I personally don't. I build the best system I can for a certain budget and just stick with it. I might upgrade a video card if there is a huge sale going on, but that's about it. I've had my current system since early 2002. It's been working fine. Doom 3 will force an upgrade though very soon and I'll stick with it until 2006 ;).

There's always someone needy in the family that I give my old computers too when I'm finished with them.
 

Neo_ZX

Member
you know how I learned how to build and fix computers? I took a chance and formatted my hard drive without knowing how to get it back. I figured it out cause I had to or I'd get in shit.

I took apart my $2000 486 without knowing how to put it back together. I just relied on memory and I did it. Sounds easy but not when you don't know how everything works. Then I got interested and I learned how to all the other shit. Made a few mistakes but I figured it all out by myself by reading manuals, going online and shit.

It's gotten much easier since then, you just can't be afraid to learn which I find to be the reason for most people not starting. I mean it's not like a car where a mistake could cost you thousands of dollars (not counting data loss) or the lives of you and others.
 
Biff Hardbody said:
Shit, that does sound easy. I'm definitely considering this now. Thanks Demon...sincerely.

No problem, glad to help. To point you in the right direction for DIY tips and PC info, go to sites like www.tomshardware.com. Also, www.newegg.com is always highly spoken of by PC geeks, though I went with hand-selected online retailers from www.pricewatch.com (of course, I wasn't restrained by budget, so I picked the primo parts and looked for good deals without resorting to the ultimate bargain price super deals from shady retailers). NewEgg is more of the bargain PC shopping place. I'd say the hardest part of building my PC was building the processor (which really is just a matter of taking the chip, rubbing some heat glue on the back, gently letting it slip in place on the mobo, setting the heatsink on top, locking it down). Like someone else said, you're not building a car, don't be afraid to mess something up (not that you will, but with anything that you're learning to do, the more afraid you are the longer it will take you and the less you will learn by making mistakes).
 

madara

Member
Yeah that's true but you really learn alot over years from all those pc headaches, and pc gameplay is largely exclusive feel that every gamer should try. You should tried late 80's, take about issues! But we did have really nice golden era to go with though, sierra games, etc.
 
DJ Demon J said:
No problem, glad to help. To point you in the right direction for DIY tips and PC info, go to sites like www.tomshardware.com. Also, www.newegg.com is always highly spoken of by PC geeks, though I went with hand-selected online retailers from www.pricewatch.com (of course, I wasn't restrained by budget, so I picked the primo parts and looked for good deals without resorting to the ultimate bargain price super deals from shady retailers). NewEgg is more of the bargain PC shopping place. I'd say the hardest part of building my PC was building the processor (which really is just a matter of taking the chip, rubbing some heat glue on the back, gently letting it slip in place on the mobo, setting the heatsink on top, locking it down). Like someone else said, you're not building a car, don't be afraid to mess something up (not that you will, but with anything that you're learning to do, the more afraid you are the longer it will take you and the less you will learn by making mistakes).

You sir now have a friend in Biff. Even if I do not build my own pc, the waterfalls will always whisper the name DJ Demon J.

Seriously, thanks for the help. Its refreshing to see a poster like you after wading through some of this bullshit. Its greatly appreciated.
 

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I know this falls under your needlessly narrow definition of "bullshit", but how did you manage to fry three video cards? I think there's more than simple dust at work here.
 
Biff Hardbody said:
You sir now have a friend in Biff. Even if I do not build my own pc, the waterfalls will always whisper the name DJ Demon J.

Seriously, thanks for the help. Its refreshing to see a poster like you after wading through some of this bullshit. Its greatly appreciated.

Haha, np. Though woe be to you if you're a Nintendo fanboy, I'm not much liked around their parts. :p
 
fenekku-gitsune said:
I know this falls under your needlessly narrow definition of "bullshit", but how did you manage to fry three video cards? I think there's more than simple dust at work here.

Dust, and thats it. I didn't overclock or anything like that.

Come to think of it though, Faceless master was right. I should have known to dust the inside of my computer. I take apart my TV's, consoles, and VCR's all the time to do a little spring cleaning now and then. Silly me.

Haha, np. Though woe be to you if you're a Nintendo fanboy, I'm not much liked around their parts. :p

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Biff Hardbody said:
Your post is very reassuring, I admit. But, everytime someone has given me advice on upgrading or whatnot and a problem arises I'm up shits creek without a paddle for a good portion of time. When imagining building my own computer I get images of me cutting some crucial wire and watching the whole thing explode. Surely I need some type of tool(s) that I don't already have?

I built my 1st pc from srcatch a couple months ago. Yes, it took longer than it should have. Yes, I spent hours on problems that should have took 10 min to solve. But now I'm not intmidated at all by whats going on inside. I know how things work, how hardware interacts, and when theres a problem, I can guess the probable causes. My biggest problem was the damn thing kept shutting on and off. Spent hours before realizing the motherboard wasn't grounded properly. My next pc i can probably build in 1/10 the time. The most time-consuming aspect is screwing everything in. Otherwise, read up on it. Don't expect anyone here to give you step by step instructions.
 
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