Your 3900x will probably bottleneck the 4070 Ti (in certain titles) compared to something like the 5800X3D, which could be a direct slot-in replacement assuming you have a B450 motherboard or better (after a BIOS update that is).
Get yourself the 4070 Ti and then eventually (after a few years) when you're feeling the heat, drop some money on the 5800X3D (which should be way cheaper by then anyway).
i dont need high end cpu because im not targeting extreme high fps , 45-60 is enough for me
I personally think the VRAM concern is overblown when it comes to 12GB cards, and frankly a lot of it just AMD cope. The games we have that are pushing past 8GB usage are unoptimized console ports and because consoles are a fixed spec those are unlikely to get worse this console gen. Perhaps if you are looking for something to take you beyond 2027 then 12GB VRAM will be an issue.I have a 1080 ti atm and im planning to upgrade , i would like to buy a 4070 ti but i would also like to wait until 50 series and buy a 5070
the 1080 ti lasted for a long time , and still does play games at decent fps so i would like my next gpu to last me just as much
the only problem that i can think of is VRAM , maybe 12 gb wont be enough in a couple of years
So what should i do ? Buy 4070 ti or wait for 5070 ti ?
EDIT : i have enough money for a 4080 , is it a wiser choice ? 4090 is out of the question , in my country its double the price
7900xtx is priced and positioned as a 4080 competitor, not a 4070Ti competitor.not if they are close in price, and7900 xtx is way ahead of the 4070ti in everything
Majority of gamers play at 1080p tho. A 4070ti is not that card.Yes you'll be 100% fine. Majority of gamers are still playing with 8GB and they aint complaining. Look at the stats on steam. Dont let gaf fool you. Gaf is the kind of guy that will tell you need need OLED, 32 GB RAM, else you arent a real gamer and games dont work for you. Besides the fact that the future is heading towards AI with DLSS 3.5, FSR 3, highly unlikely games will ever need to surpass high VRAM requirements and those that do are unoptimized turds that you shouldnt touch at launch.
they aren't shitty. the devs are shitty.With the current shitty consoles as a baseline? For sure
1440p is fine for 12GB tho. Also its literally in the title of the topic OP''s resolutions.Majority of gamers play at 1080p tho. A 4070ti is not that card.
Yes, it will most definitely bottleneck at 4080 at 1080 and 1440p. 4K won't be as bad.Hello everyone,
I'm also contemplating upgrading from my RTX 2080. My current CPU is a 9700K, so I'm curious whether it might bottleneck a potential RTX 4080 upgrade. My primary focus is on VR and sim racing games at a resolution of 3440x1440@120FPS.
Yeah this is what I've been doing. I spent £1000 on 780ti sli in 2013. Then pretty soon vram became an issue so I got a 6gb 1070, then a 2070 super and I've just upgraded to a 4070. Every 2- 3 years I get a nice upgrade but it only costs me £2-300 once I sell my old card. Though I do game on ps5 a lot so I don't need a bleeding edge PC nowadaysBuy a lower end GPU and upgrade more often.
That makes more sense to me.
What? Why does that make no sense. The 4070Ti is like double the raster performance and way more than that when you factor in RT and AI features. Why would that not be a sensible upgrade? It would be night and day.I would not upgrade form a 1080Ti to 4070Ti. Makes no sense imho.
Wait for the Radeon RX 8800XT or Nvidia RTX 5070Ti
If you care about high end ray tracing features AMD is not really an option. A 4070Ti is gonna run path traced Cyberpunk or Portal RTX infinitely better than the XTX.12 gigs is not enough / barey enough for current games ( with ray tracing enabled ).
So no. a 4080 is. or AMD 7900xtx
Huh? The current consoles have about 13-14Gb vram usableWith the current shitty consoles as a baseline? For sure
Huh? The current consoles have about 13-14Gb vram usable
The 4070ti has more horse power, but whats the point if the fps drops down to 10 fps when its out of vram and swapping with ram
If there's one thing you need more of, especially to keep your card long term - its vram.
Buying a 4070ti is dumb, especially at 1440p and 4-5 years. I doubt it'll last 2-3 years.
RX8800XT will come out next year.What? Why does that make no sense. The 4070Ti is like double the raster performance and way more than that when you factor in RT and AI features. Why would that not be a sensible upgrade? It would be night and day.
8800XT might not even exist and 5070Ti is probably two years away.
If you care about high end ray tracing features AMD is not really an option. A 4070Ti is gonna run path traced Cyberpunk or Portal RTX infinitely better than the XTX.
RX8800XT will come out next year.
And yes, the 5070Ti is probably 2 years aways, but upgrading from a 12GB 1080Ti to a 4070Ti and downgrading 2 tier makes no sense at all.
Sure if that person only cares about RT and Raster performance and don't mind upgrading that 4070Ti in 3-4 years again, go for it.
But it's not reasonable.
Get a 8800XT or 5070Ti for a real upgrade, that last for 5-6 years and is easily good for 1440p and 4k
That is already accounting for that.What other thing should he care about? Losing pride and honor after downgrading two tiers? Hahaha.
Performance is the most important metric, GPU names and tiers are irrelevant and 4070ti is much more powerful than 1080ti.
There might not be 8800XT if AMD really is going mid tier only with RDNA4.
Hard to say, the 5070 Ti sounds awesome on Paper (probably 18gb ram)
The 4070 Ti only has 12 gb ram. Ikd man tough decision.
That said the 4070 Ti should last you 4-5 years on 1080p/1440p.
That is already accounting for that.
There won't be any 8900XT or 8900XTX. But 8800XT will be the top end card with a mid-tier chip.
The 4070Ti is just 40% (4k) to 70% (1440p) faster after 6 years.
Only real generational leap is RT games.
When I upgraded from 470 to 1070 I got 3x the performance after 6 years.
What did i say wrong?
N43/N44 can't be 8800XT, max is 8700XT. Perf target 100% is 6800/7800XT, but possible near 7900XT for 400-500$But 8800XT will be the top end card with a mid-tier chip.
Waiting for the next best thing makes almost never sense, unless we talk about almost here and some major improvement, true leaps, like with Ryzen, Core2Duo or Radeon 9000 (edit 9600Pro and 9800Pro, not the XT stuff /e), where waiting their releases made sense once any credible infos were out. If 4070 makes no sense now, 5070 makes no sense when its released since the 6070 is around the corner. You can argue though if getting eg. 4060 and then 5060 or 6060, might not be an option, instead of hoping to go through some years with one card, make some smaller hops in between.I would not upgrade form a 1080Ti to 4070Ti. Makes no sense imho.
Wait for the Radeon RX 8800XT or Nvidia RTX 5070Ti
this is the only real answer, you can't really future proof anything, sometimes you get lucky and make a great purchase, sometimes things go way different from whats planned. The best way would be select an upgrade path (as suggested) and time it with console new gens or midgens, this will probably be the best way to maximise your money, but still as said, nothing is future proof.Waiting for the next best thing makes almost never sense, unless we talk about almost here and some major improvement, true leaps, like with Ryzen, Core2Duo or Radeon 9000, where waiting their releases made sense once any credible infos were out. If 4070 makes no sense now, 5070 makes no sense when its released since the 6070 is around the corner. You can argue though if getting eg. 4060 and then 5060 or 6060, might not be an option, instead of hoping to go through some years with one card, make some smaller hops in between.
Nothing will ever be truly future prove. But aligning your upgrade path with major changes like consoles and or the relevant engines, should work. So I don't see how anything that is fine today will be garbage soon.
While the AI image stuff might offer some other unexpected jump, major shifts in performance seem not on the horizon, the tanking performance with RT will be work in progress for some time- similar with Doom3 shadows that were tough at release and hw and sw nowadays has no problem at all with that stuff.
A 10 seconds Google search will tell you this is completely false.That is already accounting for that.
There won't be any 8900XT or 8900XTX. But 8800XT will be the top end card with a mid-tier chip.
The 4070Ti is just 40% (4k) to 70% (1440p) faster after 6 years.
Only real generational leap is RT games.
When I upgraded from 470 to 1070 I got 3x the performance after 6 years.
People with GTX 1080/ti can play easily today. People with 5070ti+ 8800XT+ will be play easily for 7-8 yearsNothing will ever be truly future prove.
Same, 8gb isn't fucking me over anywhere near the amount gaf say it should, early days of course!I'm still rocking a 1080.
At 1440p the 12 gigabyte of VRAM should be enough for a long while.12 GB of Vram for that price is insulting. 4080 is the minimum I would go, but I bought the 7900xt.