Sleepwalker
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You'll be fine. Consoles aren't as powerful, worst comes to worst you reduce a few settings from ultra or very high to high and continue on.
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Will a 4070 ti be enough for 4-5 years at 1080p/1440p ?
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DeaDPo0L84
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Yes/no. Depending on how you are with settings and not needing them to be maxed out. Also DLSS will only continue to improve so that will give your GPU longer legs.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Dumbasses saying no are the same people who answered with no when the same question was probably asked at the 1070/1080 generation but facts speak for themselves many years later.
You do not need to put texture quality on max because realistically you will never notice the difference between the max and the one lower, yet the max will always be just there to eat vram so people who have best gpus on the market feel good about themselves. Same with shadows, same with certain RT features. You'll be fine for many years playing games at 1400p with almost maxed out settings and even raytracing if you have DLSS or FSR. Buy the gpu you want, stop asking people who only buy the latest and best tell you no. Also stop watching benchmark videos, they specifically test the games on max settings everything cranked up with settings u will never notice any difference visually, yet the vram consumption is huge. Peace out.
Immortals of Aveum runs at ~56fps at 1440p, that is a game that is out now. So if you want to play at 60fps, you are turning down settings on a game that is out right now, not three or five years from now.
Immortals of Aveum Averages just 37 FPS on an RTX 4080: AMD's RX 7900 XTX is Faster
Immortals of Aveum, the first major title to leverage the Unreal 5 engine, has made a rather disappointing debut. After an over-the-top specs sheet, Ascendant Studios released a technically decrepit mess that can’t even hit 60 FPS on an NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4080 at 4K Ultra. Even the $1,599 RTX...
www.hardwaretimes.com
maybe that game will be the most resource intensive game to come out over the next five years, so it is the floor. Who knows. But, I doubt it.
Ev1L AuRoN
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It all depends on how do you want to experience the games, RTX is expensive on VRAM since it needs space for the BVH structure etc.. Today most games have RTX as an option, but in 5 years, maybe we will start to see games like Metro Exodus Enhanced Edition that does all the lighting using RT and being incompatible with GPU's that don't support HW RT. It's likely to be fine, but we never know.
Dream-Knife
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Buy a card for what it is today and then replace it when you don't get the performance you want.
There is no future proofing.
30 series cards will be 3 years old soon and are still running great.
There is no future proofing.
30 series cards will be 3 years old soon and are still running great.
Crayon
Member
I can't find anything atm specifically showing cp overdrive, which is a really havey tr workload. But in general the 4070ti and 7900xtx RT seem to be neck and neck. This chart shows the xtx about 5% leading but that surely varies by the test suite.
Leonidas
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Seems like a bad idea to hold on to a GPU for 5 years if you want it to perform well. I'm sure you saw this with your 1080 Ti. It was a beast when it launched in 2017, but today it loses to the lowly 4060.
In 5 years a 4070 Ti/7900 XT will lose to a 6060.
I recommend doing more frequent upgrades in the mid-range. If you also sell the GPU you'll end up spending less in the end.
In 5 years a 4070 Ti/7900 XT will lose to a 6060.
I recommend doing more frequent upgrades in the mid-range. If you also sell the GPU you'll end up spending less in the end.
majorgamer10
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4000 series sucks. It's just a software upgrade your paying for. Just buy a console. Or buy a 3000 series card and wait it out.
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Crayon
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Agree. I buy a good deal on something modern ever couple years and I can still sell the last one before it's ancient. They idea of spending 3 times as much to future proof doesn't make sense to me since you are spending the beginning with a hi end card and then degrading over the next 6 years or whatever. All while drawing more power than you had to. I can spend the less money and have something modern that keeps a similar level of performance over the same 6 years. Plus I get to zig and zag depending on what games at the time demand.
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Yes
amigastar
Gold Member
Software upgrade? How, it's running on Tensor cores which are hardware as far as i know. IMO the 4070 is a good card for what it is.
lmimmfn
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In 4k ultra too..........at 2 FPS
SF Kosmo
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The picture starts to look really different in really RT heavy stuff like Cyberpunk Overdrive and Portal RTX, though, and since these titles really rely on DLSS to achieve playable framerates and high image quality, you can start multiplying that. It might not be apples to apples, but the fact is a 4070Ti can play Cyberpunk OD at like 80-90 fps and the Radeon is gonna do 20fps, and that's what matters if you want to play these games and not just benchmark then.I can't find anything atm specifically showing cp overdrive, which is a really havey tr workload. But in general the 4070ti and 7900xtx RT seem to be neck and neck. This chart shows the xtx about 5% leading but that surely varies by the test suite.
And like I said XTX is priced as a 4080 competitor not a 4070Ti.
DragonNCM
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We are talking about 1080P resolution....read before you post
samoilaaa
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i already have a
i already have a ps5
crackajack
Member
a 970 with the suboptimal memory solution is/was probably also a fine card for very long.
But all these cards around these generations, prior 2000series lasted that long because the adoption of RT is still slow. The one new feature that is a struggle. If you don't need RT and the game don't forces it on you like games could and did with other new DX features and OS requirements, you are fine with "ancient" cards. You did not really know that when you bought them though, where the industry was going to go. In hindsight, yeah, good buy, but not really what is implied in the term "future proving".
If RT would be a bit more performant from the go, and the crypto trigger did not fuck up prices, people might have gotten more 2080s and then or even before arival of the 3080 the industry would have flipped the switch one gen earlier and min. requirements would have excluded the 1080 already.
If someone is happy with whatever they purchased for 5 or even 8 years, great, sure, but you can't really plan that. You can hope for it, but imho not shooting for the sky and upgrading in smaller sorta frequent steps is practically impossible to not be the better way. Just being always above the good enough level, not great at the beginning and then slowly getting further away from the marketing visuals. I never understood why anyone would fantasize about a 5 year timeframe, on PC, get a console if you don't want to regularly upgrade, since even the market leader Nvidia themselves won't know for sure how the market will look that far away. That's like preordering any game 5 years in advance, without knowing anything beside the company making it has usually delivered previously.
SolidQ
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Because games making for Consoles, and PC never have another graphic engines. Only generation was PS1, where PC have dirrence engines. You just need minimum 3x-4x more GPU power than console and you will be fine for whole console generation. Only question what resolution you play.
There no game, which force RT and it won't be until PS6 generation, and maybe even PS6 won't force it
Industry now very very slow, it's not 2000s, where you have DX7, 8, 9, 10, 11
lmimmfn
Member
nope 1440 included also, read also before you post
Shifty1897
Member
A 4070 TI will get you to at least 2028 for all games, 2030 for most if we have a long cross gen like we did with PS4 to PS5.
amigastar
Gold Member
2028 seems about right, not sure about 2030 though.
I have a 4070 and i hope it will hold out for a while, actually.
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mclaren777
Member
I'm planning to pick up a 4070 Ti Super in the coming weeks once people offload them for 50-series cards.
How optimistic we were.
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
Yes, but you’ll need a 500TB SSD cause no one optimizes anymore apparently.
amigastar
Gold Member
Yeah, but it is 16gb probably so close enough.
StereoVsn
Gold Member
Yeah, 5070Ti seems to be the card to get out of the series besides 5090.
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darrylgorn
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4080 will guarantee 1080p 60fps.
samoilaaa
Member
i did buy the 4080 in the end , running pretty good
now im wondering if a cpu upgrade is worth it , i think that im gonna keep my 3900x until AM6 , i dont need more than 60 fps
Brigandier
Member
5800X3D is pretty cheap to pick up these days!!
wolfboy203
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Hmmm...isn't the 7900XTX a little more expensive than the 4070ti?
Black_Stride
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At the time of that post......in August 2023.
Both GPUs were around 900 dollars but the 7900XTX was trading blows with the 4080 in raster.
Today honestly its kinda a toss up.
If you play alot of Unreal Engine 5 games and/or games with RT the 4070Ti Super is better.
If you are mostly using raster the 7900XTX gets the job done.
Realistically at this juncture just wait for the next generation unless you are getting a good deal.
buenoblue
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I picked up a 4070ti in the summer for £599 and it's been amazing upgrade from my 2070 super. Plays new games really well with dlss and framegen. Plays anything from a couple years ago and older at 4k max.
I don't think it will last 5 years though. I got after selling my 2070S for £200 it only cost me £400. Probably upgrade in a couple years to the 6 series.
I don't think it will last 5 years though. I got after selling my 2070S for £200 it only cost me £400. Probably upgrade in a couple years to the 6 series.
Bojji
Member
I had 4070ti in 2023 for few months, power of this card is good but some games were already vram limited on highest settings...
Sold it and bought used 6800, then 3080ti and used that for few months.
Few months ago I sold 3080ti (basically for the same price I bought it) and went with 4070ti super - it's not much more powerful than regular ti but that 16GB makes all the difference in some games.
On console settings 4070ti will be good for next few years but if you want more than that you are already limited.
Edit: I know this thread is old as fuck.
Sold it and bought used 6800, then 3080ti and used that for few months.
Few months ago I sold 3080ti (basically for the same price I bought it) and went with 4070ti super - it's not much more powerful than regular ti but that 16GB makes all the difference in some games.
On console settings 4070ti will be good for next few years but if you want more than that you are already limited.
Edit: I know this thread is old as fuck.
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HerjansEagleFeeder
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5800X3D + 5070
Lorianus
Member
Trying to play games on ultra is dumb anyway when sometimes a game looks practically the same on medium to high settings while you suddenly gain +30-40 fps and the vram usage goes from 9-10gb to 6-7, even a 3080 with 10 gb will last you for this generation on 1440p on reasonable setttings.
Bojji
Member
Raster games usually look similar between high and ultra, that's true. But path tracing changes graphics completely and it requires shit ton of vram to function, CP2077, AW and IJ easily go above 13-14GB usage with PT (Indiana above 15GB). Only Wukong is less but that's mostly thanks to vram friendly UE5, even fucking Portal goes ~12GB.
There is also texture quality that contributes to vram very much, I don't like to watch shit looking - muddy textures. Some people think that RT is a gimmich but even most of them will admit that textures are very important.
Nickolaidas
Member
I give it two more years. Afterwards, we gotta migrate to 6070 Ti.
Madserb2023
Member
It depends on what the next consoles are like as that will become the base for developers. If they have 24 gigs and more, you won't be able to lower the settings enough. Will need to definitely upgrade by 2028.
Bojji
Member
Madserb2023
Member
Yes but these cross gen games will likely run at 1080p/30 on the PS5. The OP is talking about 1080p/1440p and presumably 60. Will be a push on these late gen games. They will be the equivalent of Cyberpunk on last gen consoles. You want clear space. The ram situation on PC GPUs a potential mess if these consoles have anything near 32 gigs of video ram which is unlikely but possible as that's the trend. Developers would be building games around this level of ram as the consoles are the target platform and the majority of GPUs that people have will still be around 16 gigs by 2029/2030. Most people don't have a 4090.
Bojji
Member
I agree.
But still some % of memory always have to be used as system RAM (plus few GBs for OS) so I would say that 24GB GPUs will be fully usable next gen even if consoles will have 32GB.
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