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Will there be an enhanced Xbox Series X^2 next year to compete with the Pro? Or will they just go straight for full next gen?
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ap_puff
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Honestly I think this talk of a nextbox is just running interference for them to run out their production contracts, every sign points to them abandoning a hardware platform and at best licensing the Xbox trademark for 3rd party manufacturers to use on a steam machine equivalent
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
Happiness is Xbox in my rearview mirror.
New xbox hardware will be a speed bump that my PC suspension can absorb.
Edit-Yes the song is on the radio.
New xbox hardware will be a speed bump that my PC suspension can absorb.
Edit-Yes the song is on the radio.
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StreetsofBeige
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I know rumours or whatever are out there about a portable hybrid, but crossing fingers it’s just a traditional console. I don’t play handheld or mobile!
ManaByte
Gold Member
Everyone keeps wishing for this, but then they freak out at a $700 PS5 Pro.
If you really want this one console future to come true, then don't cry when the PS6 starts at $999 with no disc drive option, and every first-party game is $149 for the base version, $200+ for the deluxe.
reinking
Gold Member
…and Sony just opened the door for premium pricing.
King Dazzar
Member
Or simply sell the next one with a margin built into the price. And not worry about sales numbers. Expensive hybrid PC I reckon.
In the thread on this same forum about the next XBOX hardware you have a lot of indications that indicate the opposite of MS going to abandon console hardware.
-You have recently published a multitude of job offers by the XBOX hardware division looking for engineers of all types (electronics, AI, OS...) "for the new line of XBox hardware.
-You have to say that MS recently opened a stand at the GDC open to users and visitors just so they could leave their feedback on what they want the future XBOX hardware to be.
-You have Sarah Bond (president of Xbox hardware) confirming that "development work on the new XBOX hardware has accelerated, which will mean the biggest technological leap in a generation"
-You have to P. Spencer has almost already semi-confirmed an XBOX handheld.
There are plenty of signs telling you that MS isn't done with the hardware. Another thing is the strategy they seek with this one, which, from what is rumored, look like is going to be closer to the open PC platform than to that of a traditional console.
RickMasters
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I was gonna say this.now that the dust has settled and I think back to the reveal…… all those games run just fine in a PS4 pro, and some of them already look fantastic on a PS5. Pro versions are just PS5 versions with performance and fidelity modes enables at the same time. And it’s pretty easy to get a PS4 game to 4K/60 on settings On a PS5 pro….. PS5 was already doing that with some PS4 games.
That makes it seem expensive…. For WHAT it is…..
I’m the ideal world the PS5 ( and the series X) would be in that 300 dollar bracket after the four year mark. At 550, this would have been an easy sell. But the leap is not that great based on what we have seen. And maybe that’s just due to constraints of it being tied to hardware that is 4 years old when it launches. Sharing a lot of its core AMD architecture with PS5 ( and to a degree the series X)
So no….. I’d rather , Xbox go full on next gen and their rumoured console-PC hybrid approach might be just the right thing for where we are in gaming right now.
I want my Xbox and steam accounts in one box and I’d be ok with semi modular/upgradable hardware approach. I’ll Make mines an ASUS!
RickMasters
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Hudo
Member
They shouldn't try to compete with the PS5 Pro. That's a waste of resources. They should work on their next-gen offering and try to think about what they can do to make their GamePass and gaming-as-a-service model as attractive as possible and as seamless as possible, if they want to get back market share.
Maybe going after Nintendo and making a hybrid device is the way to go. Maybe doing a 3DO and license out design for other manufacturers is the way to go. Maybe making a console and price it really, really aggressively (like $350 for the best spec) is the way to go. Maybe working together with Steam and integrate GamePass with Steam somehow is the way to go. I dunno how to maneuver Microsoft out of the whole they've dug themselves into, tbh. I don't envy Phil.
Maybe going after Nintendo and making a hybrid device is the way to go. Maybe doing a 3DO and license out design for other manufacturers is the way to go. Maybe making a console and price it really, really aggressively (like $350 for the best spec) is the way to go. Maybe working together with Steam and integrate GamePass with Steam somehow is the way to go. I dunno how to maneuver Microsoft out of the whole they've dug themselves into, tbh. I don't envy Phil.
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ReBurn
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I could see that happening. Microsoft is definitely shifting to software first. Xbox could become like the surface line of devices where the driver seems to be "If you don't already have a device you can use you might as well look at what we have for sale."
Burger King
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I think Microsoft will exit the console market and will only offer Xbox branded PCs
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semiconscious
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or will they just fold?...
i'm also thinking reasonably priced console/pc crossbreed...
i'm also thinking reasonably priced console/pc crossbreed...
Killjoy-NL
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Sounds kinda dumb to release a nextbox in between PS5 Pro and PS6.
It has to be significantly more powerful than PS5 Pro, but it will be less powerful than PS6 and to make it worse, all Xbox games will be on Playstation.
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DntMesArnd
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I agree,
It worked for them in the 360 era. With all the backwards compatibility (which MS really pushed) it may not work as well this time. Only time will tell….
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Without giving him a click as to when he heard about that but I heard for sure about a year ago PS5 Pro would be the only console on the market, even brought it up here when I heard it
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Rest in Dreamcast
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Great. With the way Pro is priced, it's naturally a lot easier to just wait a bit and pay for the start of a new generation instead of a half-way point.
dottme
Member
So no Indiana jones on PS5
Edit: but I don’t believe we will have X2. It really looks like to go straight to next gen. But I don’t believe Phil at all too.
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lughnasadh123
Member
At the rate changes are made now year are going by like in dog years. Their nextbox is more than likely to be their last hurrah. Hopefully they can go balls out with it.
splattered
Member
I would rather it go straight for next gen... and if that means another $699 digital console i would rather spend that on FULL ON next gen and not just a mid gen refresh.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
NGL, a $1000 or so hybrid machine that's a console + PC type thing would not be a bad idea.
I am still rocking a 1060 laptop from like 8 years ago and it'd be a lot more of a safer choice for someone like me to get that as an upgrade over a traditional PC
sainraja
Member
I am not sure what we will see from Microsoft. It is a bit hard to say given the type of moves they have made recently. I am wondering what next-gen for Microsoft looks like. Is it fully onboard with Game Pass on any device that people choose or something else altogether that no one is considering? They are putting games on competing platforms and if that isn't going to change next-gen, with even more games coming, what will the next Xbox look like?
SkylineRKR
Member
A new Xbox would only make sense if it can bolster subscriptions to their service. For this reason I still doubt they will leave the hardware space soon. I think they obviously want to, but the lions share of subs is on Xbox consoles. They need to have a stable amount of users on other platforms first.
Perhaps they will aim at something like Surface.
Perhaps they will aim at something like Surface.
Wandering Leopard
Member
I expect it but it'll obviously be at a dynamic resolution. Rockstar's GTA budget probably exceeds every other Dev & they're given as much time as they need.
Dorfdad
Gold Member
Well, I’ll still probably get one ps5 pro I’m holing off replacing all my ps5’s till I see real world results. I was team 2-3 but this sounds like it’s coming in kinda hot as a testbed imho
Bitstream
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The thing that would remain to be seen though is, if Xbox ends up releasing some next gen, 'greatest graphical leap of all time' device, how advanced can those games be if its mandated that they need to be playable on their handheld?NGL, a $1000 or so hybrid machine that's a console + PC type thing would not be a bad idea.
I am still rocking a 1060 laptop from like 8 years ago and it'd be a lot more of a safer choice for someone like me to get that as an upgrade over a traditional PC
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Iced Arcade
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they barely tried to compete with the current consoles. and compete with what? the couple mill PS5 pros that will sell?
if they were smart they would start next gen early and eat a bit of the cost to gain market share like old gens would do BUT it's Phil so fuck knows he won't do that lol
if they were smart they would start next gen early and eat a bit of the cost to gain market share like old gens would do BUT it's Phil so fuck knows he won't do that lol
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
The handheld thing (or hybrid for that matter) is just a rumor though. If they are truly looking for a bigly huge leap then I don't think it's possible in constrained form-factor or wattage.
Bitstream
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its the same rumor: a hybrid console for everyday folks who want something on the go, a high end console for those who want top tier performance, and the 'any screen an xbox' firestick strategy for minimal-buy-in folks
Each one of them captures a distinct market segment, but by pushing for series S parity, MS ended up giving sony free exclusives due to hardware limitations.
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RCX
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If there's due to be another Xbox earlier than a ps6 then I'm guessing we're talking about 2026, but at the rate Xbox hardware sales are falling off is it even worth MS bothering?
Maybe they're just biding their time before announcing the obvious fact they'd rather just be a massive publisher.
Maybe they're just biding their time before announcing the obvious fact they'd rather just be a massive publisher.
splattered
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Astray
Member
All access idea didn't work when they did it with $350/$500 consoles, so why would it work with +$1000?
Klarna etc all exist already for PS Switch etc.
You were the #1 source on this.Without giving him a click as to when he heard about that but I heard for sure about a year ago PS5 Pro would be the only console on the market, even brought it up here when I heard it
Kudos for a job very well done!
Gamer_By_Proxy
Member
They started saying the Series X is their midgen refresh. Which is BS, but it's how they changed their language when the PS5 Pro info started coming out.
plus you got that bangin firestick!
kevboard
Member
if they wanna lose a lot of money, sure. but that won't happen. I don't think the Xbox department is seen as something important anymore to Microsoft, at least not the console side.
Timberwolf25
Gold Member
I wouldn't get one even if they did announce a "Pro" version. I don't think they've come close to maxing the current console as is.
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