Burning Blade
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Big Trouble in Little China, staring
The Rock.
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Willow- Official Trailer (2022)
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The Rock.
Artoris
Gold Member
"They even butchered Enter Sandman." disgraceful
daveonezero
Banned
My wife and I turned it off at the lesbian kiss.
It’s insane the women can just be friends.
Also the modern dialogs and music was really bad. Not bad that it’s fun like Knights Tale but just bad.
It’s insane the women can just be friends.
Also the modern dialogs and music was really bad. Not bad that it’s fun like Knights Tale but just bad.
Dude the original looked awesome in Disney +
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ChorizoPicozo
Member
It can not be as bad as Rings of power right?
Krathoon
Member
Just watched the third episode. I wonder what kind of spell Willow used. A banish evil spell? It seems to kill all of the knights except for the leader. Maybe he was stronger willed?
They just made it to the bad guy's place from the original film.
I guess I am ok with the lesbians. It does seem a bit too much. Kinda over doing it.
Here is a Willow summary.
They just made it to the bad guy's place from the original film.
I guess I am ok with the lesbians. It does seem a bit too much. Kinda over doing it.
Here is a Willow summary.
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Krathoon
Member
Labyrinth with old Jennifer Connely would not be bad. The Goblin King could be dead like Bowie.
It could be a tale about growing old and the world starting to pass you by.
BadBurger
Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Watched the first episode. This is really poor writing with a few ferociously unlikable characters, such as Princess Kit, and really bad acting from almost everyone involved. The tone, the dialog, the weirdly low budget looking visuals, the near lack of a score while what's there is just forgettable and bad, etc.
How in the world can Disney go from the heights of something like Andor to the depths of this? This for real felt like a fan made movie short on YouTube,
How in the world can Disney go from the heights of something like Andor to the depths of this? This for real felt like a fan made movie short on YouTube,
Trunx81
Member
Watched the first three episodes yesterday. Don’t really care about the kiss, it’s just a love-tension-problems thing that could easily have worked with male-female as well. The twist that the prince gets kidnapped is actually a nice change from the formula.
The good:
• Same goofy humor as the movie
• Willow, even if old, and the queen
• Landscapes
• The axe guy
The bad:
• Unlikeable Princess. I hope this is a redemption arc
• Traveling back and forth makes it sometimes reeeeally long
• Pacing
• Fight scenes worse than in ObiWan
• the wood ladies. What the hell where they thinking?
The good:
• Same goofy humor as the movie
• Willow, even if old, and the queen
• Landscapes
• The axe guy
The bad:
• Unlikeable Princess. I hope this is a redemption arc
• Traveling back and forth makes it sometimes reeeeally long
• Pacing
• Fight scenes worse than in ObiWan
• the wood ladies. What the hell where they thinking?
Trunx81
Member
Maybe but it was so weird. She comes out of the mist and BoOm it’s bright sunlight and they didn’t see a thing? I was actually expecting a Tom Bombadil scene here, not some Moonshiners in disguise.
Artoris
Gold Member
I could watch Rings of power, but I can't watch this
Nintendo's Witch
Member
This show is a fucking vile pile of steaming shit.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
That would be the final straw.
Man, Ep3 was rooooough. The editing alone, so many strange cuts and leaps. Willow throws a smoke bomb....not sure his intent, and the bad guys totally ghost with Elora?
The good guys take the time to pack the wagon and stroll away, yet beat the bad guys to the pass?
Forests suddenly intimitade the bad guys so elora can have her INCREDIBLY STRANGE encounter with the anachronistic "woods women"?
Kits grows a bow and arrow set from......her ass? And it isn't even used, it's just there all if the sudden.
I am digging the Lovecraftian references like Pnaktonic speech and Hastur. There is a semi cool horror vibe. And even some of the humor lands for me, mostly from Boorman and dear departed Silas.
But woooof, who greenlit this script?
The good guys take the time to pack the wagon and stroll away, yet beat the bad guys to the pass?
Forests suddenly intimitade the bad guys so elora can have her INCREDIBLY STRANGE encounter with the anachronistic "woods women"?
Kits grows a bow and arrow set from......her ass? And it isn't even used, it's just there all if the sudden.
I am digging the Lovecraftian references like Pnaktonic speech and Hastur. There is a semi cool horror vibe. And even some of the humor lands for me, mostly from Boorman and dear departed Silas.
But woooof, who greenlit this script?
Brian Fellows
Pete Carroll Owns Me
I gave up after two eps.
Dr.Morris79
Gold Member
James Hong? I couldnt find anything, he's 92 though and christ, he's been in a lot more than i'd imagined!
Pure legend.
Ulysses 31
Member
If you're the king of a nation and your son, the prince, gets kidnapped by an evil crone, would you send the princess and 4 teenagers to rescue your son or (elites of )your army?
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Trunx81
Member
The difference for me is: ROP took itself serious. This show knows that it’s campy. Reminds me of the Shannara series.
Krathoon
Member
Yeah. I think he is still alive. He was in Everything, Everywhere All At Once.
Damn, so torn on this season. There is some straight FANTASTIC shit in this show, really amazing scenes and vistas, all the stuff in the endless sea and the visuals of the galaxy overhead were INCREDIBLE but then there are some almost maliciously offensive stuff like the ....called it....crone dunking on the prince that really just slapped the face of this genre. But fuck, the horror vibe, the weird wacky magic battles, the almost nihilistic ending; it makes up for the buffoon trolls, anachronsitic woodswomen, really goofy "we were the good guys but just looked bad in Willow the film" guys and the sloppy editing. Did that armor ever pay off? Nope. Did madmartigan really get a proper farewell? not really. Did I love EVERY SECOND of Elora Danan coming into her own and fucking shit up? Yup.
I've never been so divided on a show that I've been so hopeful for a season 2 (and apparently season 3?)
I've never been so divided on a show that I've been so hopeful for a season 2 (and apparently season 3?)
OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
JCK75
Member
It actually upsets me that they made it so bad.. because it's a franchise I would loved to have seen continue.. and it's never going to happen again because they did such a terrible job with it.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
The story was just bad. The characters were bad. The dialogue was bad. And they basically neglected the show's namesake! For a show called Willow, they didn't make him the main character. Even Val Kilmer's Madmartigan was equal in story time to Willow... Willow is a background character, at best, in the show.
They were so focused on "the next generation" rather than making a great story with Willow as the focus while KEEPING the human macguffin character.
They were so focused on "the next generation" rather than making a great story with Willow as the focus while KEEPING the human macguffin character.
To the surprise of almost no one that tried to watch it.
Revolutionary
Member
Now let us never speak of this again.
Ulysses 31
Member
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Yeah Disney seems to be firing a lot of people in that area and burying some movies as direct to Disney + . Iger also mentioned a retooling of their film and tv studios recently.
Mossybrew
Banned
Not surprising, the show came and went with barely a whimper. I didn't hear a real life soul mention this show once, and aside from this thread I barely saw any conversation online about it either.
Billbofet
Member
It's too bad. I'm not a huge fan of Willow, but I hope they learn lessons from this. Either make new, original shit, or when rebooting an IP focus on what made the original loved.
Whenever they claim something to be "made for modern audiences" it's like the equivalent of dating a person with a coke nail. Just know you'll likely be let down.
Whenever they claim something to be "made for modern audiences" it's like the equivalent of dating a person with a coke nail. Just know you'll likely be let down.
They should have focused on the girl that played his daughter instead, dropped that odd "Elora Dann is a scullery maid" angle, and leaned into those wicked cool magic fights and mud snail boats. And definitely less of those trolls.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I had no problem with the new characters... But they were too much of a focus ... It distracted from the actual quest. I actually liked that red haired girl was taken from her family who lived in the woods but the romances, unrequited love, is he/isn't he a villain with the bearded guy... All that should have been MINOR stuff to the quest. Not the majority of the episodes!
And there was nothing wrong with people being different colors in the show as there were people of different colors in the movie, too. I find it odd a lot of people don't remember that.
And there was nothing wrong with people being different colors in the show as there were people of different colors in the movie, too. I find it odd a lot of people don't remember that.
Dr. Samuel Hayden
Member
And nothing of value was lost
JimmyRustler
Member
I have a hard time believing anyone is surprised here. Woke trash coupled with a complete disrespect for the fans of the movie. What could possibly go wrong?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
I have a hard time believing anyone is surprised here. Woke trash coupled with a complete disrespect for the fans of the movie. What could possibly go wrong?
It wasn't woke. It was just badly conceived and badly written, focusing on "The Next Generation"... Should have focused mainly on Willow and not tried to CW-ify it. We have too many young adult/teen romance shows as is.
TaylorSwiftFan
Member
Dirk Benedict
Member
What did you guys expect from the diversity writing team that is seemingly on most scripts for most shows and movies, these days?
I scoffed at this the second it was announced, and while premature, it seems I had the right idea, anyhow.
Willow is a classic movie. There was no need for a sequel aside to generate money while simultaneously destroying, yet another classic film.
I scoffed at this the second it was announced, and while premature, it seems I had the right idea, anyhow.
Willow is a classic movie. There was no need for a sequel aside to generate money while simultaneously destroying, yet another classic film.
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
Ok. Since the definition keeps changing depending on WHO says it, what was "woke" about it to you?
And an Nes Title thats better looking than LTTP.....jumps for cover.
What about the Lumberjack Lesbians that where shoehorned in?
DeafTourette
Perpetually Offended
That was just lazy and haphazard writing. Nothing woke about that. Gay folks exist. Hetero relationships still outnumbered homosexual relationships in the show...
It didn't bother me that they were lesbians... But it bothered me about them looking like MODERN lumberjacks. That was just stupid and took me out of the scene.
"Gay folks exist"? Who said they didnt?
I dont care about the gay/straight ratio at all and never said I did.
The reason they completly overlooked the 19th century lumberjack look was cause they where way too focused on the representation that nothing else mattered. And lets face it they had already established an LGBT relationship earlier with the other characters.