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[darkside31337]

This place was even more dead than anime for a few hours there x_x

 

[Vito]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

 

[MikeHattsu]

Sailor Moon R 23

Heh, they translated sleep but not yume?

Anyway... Mamuro is still fighting against the future and Usagi gets to be sleeping beauty. A background character gets slapped as well.

 

[Jex]

[Doamaiger D] - 1

Everything I wanted, and more, in glorious 4:3.

 

[phaze]

Also please, sword of the stranger best sweet fights.

Naruto? Naru-NO!

Chaotic camera work. Unrealistic sparks. Would not upload to Sakugabooru.

Now this on the other hand:

 

[DrForester]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

Do we have a OT for this yet?

 

[Envelope]

[Doamaiger D] - 1

Everything I wanted, and more, in glorious 4:3.

the dream is real?

 

[Jex]

Kaguyahime > everything Miyazaki's ever created

I don't think we need to reduce everything down a petty internet argument in this fashion, no matter how amusing that may be! The two directors have very different styles and create very different works.

What I will say is that Miyazaki has clearly declined quite severely over the course of the last few movies while Takahata is still perfecting his craft.

 

[Femmeworth]

Do we have a OT for this yet?

The less attention the better.

 

[Jex]

Do we have a OT for this yet?

For some reason, it appears not to be the case. For some reason no champion of Ikuhara has risen.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Yuri Kuma Arashi 01

No gore, only yuri, yuri and yuri.
Wanna post some picture but then i find out none of any picture is able to post here, this show is too lewd.

 

[Envelope]

For some reason, it appears not to be the case. For some reason no champion of Ikuhara has risen.

well the whole premise and everything we've seen makes the show look like absolute shit so yeah


no more faith in Ikuhara

 

[MikeHattsu]

Sailor Moon R 24

Haha.

A mix of comedy and sad stuff and with a better looking fight than the one 2 episodes ago. Really liked this one.

 

[CheapJuice]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

Those first 30 seconds, sweet whispers in my ear hnnng

 

[Yui]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

Mhhh, lovely animations with a boring song.

 

[Jex]

the dream is real?

Everything went better than expected.

 

[DiGiKerot]

Well I certainly didn't expect to see that.

Hey, man, every self-respecting Producer has to have their own calling card.

Spoiler

But, seriously, iM@S fans carrying business cards repping their favour idol(s) to trade with other fans is totally A Thing. And, yes, I know Takane has two right hands. The things you don't notice until they come back from the printers...

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

I find it amusing that Cross Ange has to censor its naked ladies in its OP, but Lesbian Bear Storm's OP gets away with naked ladies galore. Ikuhara power!

 

[Narag]

[Doamaiger D] - 1

Everything I wanted, and more, in glorious 4:3.

Omg

 

[Jex]

I find it amusing that Cross Ange has to censor its naked ladies in its OP, but Lesbian Bear Storm's OP gets away with naked ladies galore. Ikuhara power!

Ikuhara is clearly too classy too censor.

 

[AquaWateria]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

Is this Yuri stuff supposed to be good?

Also the Opening song is pretty meh.

Anyways for the people who are gonna watch this, I hope it turns out to be good.

 

[Jex]

well the whole premise and everything we've seen makes the show look like absolute shit so yeah


no more faith in Ikuhara

Those without faith will be Left Behind.

 

[Lambtron]

Those without faith will be Left Behind.

I'll follow Ikuhara wherever He wants to lead me.

 

[Himemiya]

Anyways for the people who are gonna watch this, I hope it turns out to be good.

So do I, so do I.

 

[Femmeworth]

Brb watching Utena before it is too late.

 

[Envelope]

Brb watching Utena before it is too late.

the ony good Ikuhara series tbh

 

[Deputy Dangle]

I can't deal with all this Etsuko Yakushimaru hate!

 

[KuwabaraTheMan]

the ony good Ikuhara series tbh

There's never been a bad Ikuhara series.

 

[Blusby]

There's never been a bad Ikuhara series.

There are those with bad taste though.

 

[Envelope]

There's never been a bad Ikuhara series.

Penguindrum is shit

 

[Jex]

Penguindrum is the shit

See I fixed your lies.

 

[Blusby]

Penguindrum is shit

Why's that?

 

[Mature]

That bear show is some smutty stuff.

 

[Femmeworth]

There's never been a bad Ikuhara series.

Today could be the day!

There are those with bad taste though.

There's two ways to read this.

 

[Envelope]

Why?

poorly paced, poorly structured, struggled to keep its overly drawn out subplots together, fizzled out in the end.

 

[Blusby]

There's two ways to read this.

Ikuhara deserves nothing less.

poorly paced, poorly structured, struggled to keep its overly drawn out subplots together, fizzled out in the end.

How so?

 

[Admiral Woofington]

Yeah Penguindrum and I could not get along. It felt too psychological/abstract after a point.

 

[Theonik]

"And if you don't talk now, next time we'll be adding pineapple!"

Pineapple in Pizza is good though.

 

[Jex]

Penguindrum is shit

Penguindrum is a complicated, interesting and clearly flawed show that I really need to rewatch at some point. I've read a through interesting articles about it but one of the best overall evaluations of the show can be found here.

I would agree that the biggest problem with the show is that the story feels really rushed in the last act. It seems like it needed another set of episodes to develop.

 

[BluWacky]

How so?

I love Penguindrum to bits, but its biggest flaw for me is how it handles the supporting trio of Masako, Yuri and Tabuki. They're all interesting and well written characters, but the show runs out of time to really flesh out their stories beyond a couple of episodes each in the middle third and they become mostly irrelevant to the end game. While this works in Utena due to the episodic nature of the show and the greater insulation of the Student Council members from the final overarching story, that's not the case in PingDrum.

I don't think the show is shit by any means - I think it's genius and one of the best shows I've seen in the past five years. It IS poorly paced (I would argue that Envelope's criticisms are all the same thing, essentially) but I don't think that detracts from so many of the other things it gets right.

 

[TUSR]

Classes got cancelled. Time to see what these lesbian bears are all about.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

Penguindrum is shit

I agree. Remembering the plot being over complicated and the ending being bad.

 

[Femmeworth]

Penguindrum is a complicated, interesting and clearly flawed show that I really need to rewatch at some point. I've read a through interesting articles about it but one of the best overall evaluations of the show can be found here.

Christopher Marlow (‘tamerlane420’) is a PhD in Anime Studios and Professor Emeritus from Northwestern University. He has two published books: Moe, a Feminist Defense and From Futari to Rail Wars: The Middle Period Works of Makoto Uno. He is the first openly homosexual anime professor, attracting controversy for shouting “I’m gay” during a performance of ‘sirius’ by Eir Aoi at Otakon 2014.

Wait, what.

 

[Envelope]

It IS poorly paced (I would argue that Envelope's criticisms are all the same thing, essentially)

A show can have fine pacing but no cohesive structure (anything Tomino makes), can be wonderfully directed but completely fail to resolve its subplots in any meaningful manner... so yeah, no

 

[MetroidPrimeRib]

Glorious Ikuhara return! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64AbgBKTUGQ (Yuri Kuma Arashi OP)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI9hgp32-f0

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Wait, what.

lol saw that too xD

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

Penguin Drum is a bad show with some incredibly good moments. A lot of fun to watch, of course. I am hoping Ikuhara will be more focused and structured with Lesbian Bear Storm.

 

[fertygo]

This writeup at tvtrope for finale of penguindrum also really good.
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=13101108240A39480100&page=29#706

Personally I don't agree with too convoluted critics, I mean what's Utena then? I thought the climax is great and wrap up everything nicely.

 

[Jex]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI9hgp32-f0

What a flawless dub.

 

[Envelope]

Penguindrum is a complicated, interesting and clearly flawed show that I really need to rewatch at some point. I've read a through interesting articles about it but one of the best overall evaluations of the show can be found here.

My initial response to Penguindrum was the common one: the show is great in individual doses but fails as a cohesive whole, the narrative thrust aimless, ultimately succumbing to Ikuhara’s worst tendencies. Even the show’s defenders often conceded that the show was best experienced as a ‘ride’ and not that structurally dense, so I had little reason to reconsider this view. Upon rewatch, however, I’ve found my position completely reversed: Penguindrum is a show that is thematically well-conceived, rich in detail, but fails in the execution of the particulars.

I would agree that the biggest problem with the show is that the story feels really rushed in the last act. It seems like it needed another set of episodes to develop.

I would argue that Penguindrum's inability to control those pesky particulars hinders every other part of the show, including those broader thematically well-conceived elements.