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Witcher 4 director interview: Ciri will pass trial of grasses during game, the trailer is a pre-rendered in-game cutscene, and more

timothet

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They had an opportunity to do a Sorceress/Witcher hybrid but I think they are just going to do just Witcher stuffs. I think if you relied more on your magic and your limitations of not being a mutate it would open up new challenges. If anything I hope they let you keep the Blink dodge.
I think the trailer is implying that Ciri will also be able to use regular magic to some degree. When the monster pins her to the wall, she draws magic from the water—something Yen taught her in the books.
 

Zathalus

Member
Looking a bit further into this the 2001 RPG book Wiedźmin: Gra Wyobraźni does specifically state that cat school Witchers trained girls with a heavily modified form of the grasses. Survival rate was even lower, being one in ten. There is even a named female Witcher, Dragonfly:


Naturally not canon to the books, but neither are the games, with the games taking a lot of inspiration from the RPG as well.
 

Gaiff

SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
And the guys can resist cause they have dicks right ? Cause thats the only difference
There are far more differences than that between males and females. It was established in the lore that young boys are by far the best candidates for witcher mutations, but even their survival rate is insanely low. Adult men also have a significantly lower survival rate than boys. For women, it's basically 0. Doubly so for adult women.
 

Tsaki

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It’s clear that Ciri has lost her time-traveling and blink abilities, as she didn’t use them even when facing death. This makes sense, as those abilities were fun to use in short bursts while playing as her in The Witcher 3, but they would likely become stale over the course of a full game. I assume the narrative justification for this will be that the Trial of the Grasses stripped her of these powers.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
There are far more differences than that between males and females. It was established in the lore that young boys are by far the best candidates for witcher mutations, but even their survival rate is insanely low. Adult men also have a significantly lower survival rate than boys. For women, it's basically 0. Doubly so for adult women.
We've said our piece. Many are more then ok with CDPR breaking Witcher Lore. It won't surprise me when the Witcher 1 Remake makes several retcons to compensate for all the crazy that will go down in Witcher 4. What is probably gonna happen is we have W3 Ciri initially and then after partway through W4 Ciri does the ritual...it works somehow and you now have a beefier more masculine Ciri with diminished Source powers and go through the Metroid Reset. It shouldn't work but CDPR just going to wing it moving forward.
 
We've said our piece. Many are more then ok with CDPR breaking Witcher Lore. It won't surprise me when the Witcher 1 Remake makes several retcons to compensate for all the crazy that will go down in Witcher 4. What is probably gonna happen is we have W3 Ciri initially and then after partway through W4 Ciri does the ritual...it works somehow and you now have a beefier more masculine Ciri with diminished Source powers and go through the Metroid Reset. It shouldn't work but CDPR just going to wing it moving forward.
To be fair the first Witcher game had garlic as a item to buff you against vampires… In the books it doesn’t work at all against vampires…they never followed the books 100%.

Nor would I expect them to: It’s a game series using the books as a baseline; Similar to having a Batman plot following the general backstory of what’s established, but being non-cannon in a way like Frank Miller’s: The Dark Knight Returns.
 
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MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
To be fair the first Witcher game had garlic as a item to buff you against vampires… In the books it doesn’t work at all against vampires…they never followed the books 100%. Nor would I expect them to, it’s a game.
Garlic as a superstition was meant more to ward off Vampires or be used as a deterrent. When it comes to applicable uses in hunting Vampires there is none. It does nothing. If it does anything it affects their keen sense of smell. So in the books it actually made it easier for a Vampire to locate a great amount of victims.

A lesser Vampire might tend to avoid it but to a higher Vampire no such luck.

So in truth both in the books and in Witcher 1 the use of Garlic is within an acceptable margin.
 
Garlic as a superstition was meant more to ward off Vampires or be used as a deterrent. When it comes to applicable uses in hunting Vampires there is none. It does nothing. If it does anything it affects their keen sense of smell. So in the books it actually made it easier for a Vampire to locate a great amount of victims.

A lesser Vampire might tend to avoid it but to a higher Vampire no such luck.

So in truth both in the books and in Witcher 1 the use of Garlic is within an acceptable margin.
Yeah, it shouldn’t work, but in the very first game it went exactly against the lore like that… 🤷‍♂️
 
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Mozzarella

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Really not a fan of the direction they chose here, i dont find Ciri interesting as a character and i would rather they go for a different route, but then again i prefer CDPR actually make VTMB 2 instead of the Bitcher 4 but here we are...
At the end of the day they are good devs, i hope its good and if it is i will get it day 1.
 
I mean she went practically Super Saiyan near the end of the last game, the thing is if she breaks destiny; does she still have her time/space powers after??? The other thing was Yen was warning about Ciri ever using fire magic specifically, and she is doing it in the trailer with the chain…

More to it than it looks…
 
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timothet

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I mean she went practically Super Saiyan near the end of the last game, the thing is if she breaks destiny; does she still have her time/space powers after??? The other thing was Yen was warning about Ciri ever using fire magic specifically, and she is doing it in the trailer with the chain…

More to it than it looks…
IIRC, Yen was specifically warning her about drawing power from the fire, not about using fire magic(which still is harder to harness than other magic). In the trailer, you see her drawing power from the water (when she is pinned to the wall), which is much safer element.

Also, I suspect that Ciri lost her powers when she defeated the White Frost, and the first couple of hours of W4 will be spent with a powerless Ciri. At this point, she will need to undergo the Trial of the Grasses if she is serious about becoming a witcher. Rest of the game will be about mastering her witcher skills and reconnecting to magic.
 
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