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Wkd Box Office 12•18-20•15 - Force Awakens does good... gOOOood, opens w/ $248m

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Yes they are. Every frame of those three turds defines the absolute zero when it comes to filmmaking. I hate Transformers and consider it to be one of the worst films I've ever seen, but its still better than absolute zero.

Neil Breen's 2005 espionage thriller 'Double Down' is a masterpiece next to Lucas' attempt to cash in on more toys. I have watched thousands of films in my 37 years on this planet, and have never experienced something as soul-less as those 'movies'. They are both the antithesis of art, and the antitheses of entertainment.


EDIT: Sorry. I'm crazy about my hate of the prequels. I'll try to stay on topic.

On topic: Will Point Break be the biggest flop remake? I don't know anyone who is talking about it, and, in the shadow of Star Wars, it seems likely that the only people who are going to see it are those who accidentally wander into the wrong theater.

The Phantom Menace alone has more imagination and fun than all of those wretched Transformers films combined.
 

Anth0ny

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The Phantom Menace alone has more imagination and fun than all of those wretched Transformers films combined.

Transformers 1 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the prequels. That movie is actually enjoyable and funny and has characters who talk like real people.

Transformers 2 and 3, on the other hand... prequel tier, no doubt. Right down to the racist caricatures.
 
3 weekends over the previous december record holder.

Yeah, even if it doesn't hit the (still fucking crazy as all hell to even consider yet) "Three Weekends Over 100 Million" threshhold, it will still likely take until The Force Awakens fourth weekend before it makes less money than Unexpected Journey's first.

And while we're in this particular cul-de-sac: The first Transformers film isn't that bad. Pretty decent (which immediately puts it in the top 3 of Bay's filmography, really). The sequel is one of the worst films of the last 15 years, period, and the sequel to that was just bad, but not remarkably so - but the first Transformers is okay.
 

cacildo

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When is the new Guardians of the Galaxy btw?

I was just listening to the sountrack and saw it mentioned in the last page....

I want a new one soon.


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Transformers 1 is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the prequels. That movie is actually enjoyable and funny and has characters who talk like real people.

Transformers 2 and 3, on the other hand... prequel tier, no doubt. Right down to the racist caricatures.

I can't even tell the difference between them.
 

jman2050

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The worst thng Transformers 2 did was retroactively have everyone hate on the first film despite it actually being a decent flick.
 

GhaleonEB

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TFA could stop making money for the next three days and still sweep JW off the cumulative daily record list through the 8th day of release.

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The worst thng Transformers 2 did was retroactively have everyone hate on the first film despite it actually being a decent flick.

Hopefully you're speaking for those that changed their mind about the film, and not those of us who always knew it was a steaming pile of puke.
 

Anth0ny

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And while we're in this particular cul-de-sac: The first Transformers film isn't that bad. Pretty decent (which immediately puts it in the top 3 of Bay's filmography, really). The sequel is one of the worst films of the last 15 years, period, and the sequel to that was just bad, but not remarkably so - but the first Transformers is okay.

The worst thng Transformers 2 did was retroactively have everyone hate on the first film despite it actually being a decent flick.

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rjinaz

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Reading the box office thread for Age of Ultron's opening now...





Bananafactory was right... tell your sister, bananafactory was right.

That quote from Caboose was one of my favorites from that thread. "Delusional."

That's the thing about statistics and trends. It's not ever perfect. The Box Office experts got it wrong in that thread.There can always be an exception that doesn't follow the rules.
 

kswiston

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How many people thought Age of Ultron was actually going to pass the first film domestically? First weekend sure but I think most people expected a decrease. Just a smaller one. Worldwide was expected to be the growth area. However I think the strong US dollars effect on the overall gross was underestimated. Age of Ultron would have broke 1.5b with 2012 exchange rates, even with the much lower than expected domestic take.

Edit: Also see Spectre vs Skyfall.

Its broken :)

Not yet. That poster had the wrong post count. Record is 2395 posts. We will probably hit that tonight though.
 
Not yet. That poster had the wrong post count. Record is 2395 posts. We will probably hit that tonight though.

We're in a box-office thread where the best box-office prognosticator is offering the best estimate of when the box-office thread will break box-office thread records for most discussion about box-office.

Star Wars has brought us to this madness.
 

Anth0ny

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Reading the box office thread for Age of Ultron's opening now...





Bananafactory was right... tell your sister, bananafactory was right.

these old threads are too funny

when I said opening weekend was guaranteed since star wars fucking crashed all the ticket selling websites

Like those people weren't going to be part of the OW anyway? The tickets that crashed the website for opening day likely made up for something like 15-20 mil, probably (we got the IMAX numbers for that opening day, and it was 6.5 something, right?)

So let's say the people who crushed the ticket sites account for 20 mil of your opening weekend.

Now you gotta come up with another 200 in those three days to make this prediction solid.

If it was still regularly doing that then we could say such a thing, but if it's front loaded with the 'early adopters' then it's possible that everyone who wanted an early ticket got one and the others are waiting until later on to see it.

No doubt the hype is huge but how broad of an appeal is the hype? Yes us nerds are frothing at the mouth for this shit but the general public? We'll see.

not directed at me but:

Dude, you have the movie making $360 million the next 7 days after opening @ $250 million (some of which are the last shopping days till Christmas.

You have got to be trolling but it is awesome to read, nonetheless.

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TF 1 is actually a watchable movie.
The other ones don't even qualify as movies.

Yeah, even if it doesn't hit the (still fucking crazy as all hell to even consider yet) "Three Weekends Over 100 Million" threshhold, it will still likely take until The Force Awakens fourth weekend before it makes less money than Unexpected Journey's first.

And while we're in this particular cul-de-sac: The first Transformers film isn't that bad. Pretty decent (which immediately puts it in the top 3 of Bay's filmography, really). The sequel is one of the worst films of the last 15 years, period, and the sequel to that was just bad, but not remarkably so - but the first Transformers is okay.

The worst thng Transformers 2 did was retroactively have everyone hate on the first film despite it actually being a decent flick.

Agree with all of this, especially the last one. Been a transformers fan ever since Beast and loved the first movie. It wasn't perfect, but I (and the rest of the fanbase) were confident that the problems would be fixed for the sequel.

Nope.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
By the time star wars is done, jurassic world will have like 3 records lol

Im not too confident in Star Wars taking many of Avatars... maybe 3rd weekend but I don't expect legs as long as avatar

We will see, though
 

kswiston

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I think I might have actually eaten just a teensy bit more shit on Jurassic World, maybe?

Teeth were brown, definitely.

Considering the fact that even industry smart money was pegging the domestic TOTAL at $225-300M a couple of weeks before release, I think almost everyone did.

I never feel bad about majorly lowballing a breakout film. For every one of those you get way wrong, there are 5-10 others you were in the right ballpark on.
 

CassSept

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I've only seen TF2 but come on, it's not even prequel tier. Phantom Menace at least had some original ideas going for it, as bad as they were. Revenge of the Sith botched Anakin's character arc, but at least it tried. Revenge of the Fallen is an affront to intelligence. The romance in AotC was more believable and logical than anything that happened in TF2.
 

Matt_

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As impressive as TFA has been Jurassic World was way more impressive for me
It really came out of nowhere with its opening and then produced outstanding legs and amazing overseas runs
 
The worst thng Transformers 2 did was retroactively have everyone hate on the first film despite it actually being a decent flick.

I didn't make it to the end of the first one, let alone see the second one. It wasn't a decent flick to me.

Rare thing that I don't finish a movie.
 

Branduil

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As impressive as TFA has been Jurassic World was way more impressive for me
It really came out of nowhere with its opening and then produced outstanding legs and amazing overseas runs

Nah, I mean Jurassic World was shocking but no one thought it was impossible, it was just not the movie people expected to do it.

TFA is doing things no one thought possible, like shattering the OW record by $40 million in December, while still not acting like a typical frontloaded film. It's likely to not just break Avatar's domestic record, but to do it without much drama. That's crazy.
 

kswiston

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I don't know. Furious 7s prequel was almost 800m worldwide. A lot of people were expecting this one to hit 1b due to Walkers death. I don't think it was a given that Jurassic World would outgross it worldwide back in March. Furious 7s Chinese run was one of the crazier things this year but overall I still think Jurassic World had the crazier run.
 

guek

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I kinda wish we would have had a big blizzard now just so we could have seen how that would affect the numbers. We know the thirst was real but how much would inclimate weather bring down the OW?

It still would have beat December's record, no problem, but the all time? Lots of people are gloating now that the December date had no detrimental effects on the opening but it still could have.

I don't know. Furious 7s prequel was almost 800m worldwide. A lot of people were expecting this one to hit 1b due to Walkers death. I don't think it was a given that Jurassic World would out gross worldwide it back in March. Furious 7s Chinese run was one of the crazier things this year but overall I still think Jurassic World had the crazier run.

When did the new rules for China go into effect? Did they limit F7's run there at all?
 

wachie

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I don't know. Furious 7s prequel was almost 800m worldwide. A lot of people were expecting this one to hit 1b due to Walkers death. I don't think it was a given that Jurassic World would outgross it worldwide back in March. Furious 7s Chinese run was one of the crazier things this year but overall I still think Jurassic World had the crazier run.
I don't know .. going from 800M to 1.5B is almost double where as for JW, I called a billion so 1.5B isn't twice :p

I'm not discounting JW's break out success, it was definitely a shocker, one for the books.
 

ArmGunar

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Is there a website with tickets sold (domestic and/or international) and not $ grossed ?
A kind of box office mojo like

I think, it's more interesting to compare movies with tickets sold/admissions than $ grossed (inflation, tickets prices, etc...)
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Is there a website with tickets sold (domestic and/or international) and not $ grossed ?
A kind of box office mojo like

I think, it's more interesting to compare movies with tickets sold/admissions than $ grossed (inflation, tickets prices, etc...)

Go to boxofficemojo

Go to all time on the left

Click adjusted for inflation.... in top right there's a drop down box beside "Adjuster"... choose est tickets

You can do this for most records too
 

Cheebo

Banned
As impressive as TFA has been Jurassic World was way more impressive for me
It really came out of nowhere with its opening and then produced outstanding legs and amazing overseas runs

I mean I can understand this if their grosses were going to be close. But when it is all said and done SW will have run circles around JW. Topping 800 mil (possibly close to 900 mil) and beating Avatar for the #1 spot domestically towers above the surprise that was the JW gross.
 

3N16MA

Banned
I don't know .. going from 800M to 1.5B is almost double where as for JW, I called a billion so 1.5B isn't twice :p

I'm not discounting JW's break out success, it was definitely a shocker, one for the books.

Furious 7 looked like a good bet to hit 1B.

FF - 363M
F5 - 626M
F6 - 788M

Growth both domestic and OS. Add in the fact that Paul Walker's passing was guaranteed to draw in a larger audience and 1B seems reasonable. 1.5B is very impressive.
 
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