Expendable.
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I hope Moonrise Kingdom does well, probably deserves a wide release somete in June.
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Wkd Box Office Est. 0511-13 12 - Depp/Burton bask in shadow of Whedon's Avengers
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DrForester
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I don't see why you guys are comparing a fun action flick, and one of the greatest psychological thrillers of all time....
SCULLIBUNDO
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When are you seeing it? I still have absolutely no idea if I'm gonna get to go to the early screenings or not.
Face it Tiger..
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I'm really happy for the Think like A Man movie, it's still up there!
Good Job Bob
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No one's talking about Safe bombing?
Stathams career is dead.
Stathams career is dead.
Why did he turn down that Fast Six role again?
I do all the time, "Have you ever heard the wolf cry to the blue corn moon?" So memorable.
Still need to see Avengers here in China, might go on Tuesday.
bigtroyjon
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I don't think it matters at all but it's clear that there is a good chunk of people in these threads who seem to really care about it, so the entertainment factor of Avengers attempting to overtake it will be high.
Expendable.
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This Wednesday, same day as Cannes premiere!
Escape Goat
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This is a marathon not a sprint.
SCULLIBUNDO
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I'm jelly.
It's only a 50% drop in salt. Better hold than expected!
Expendable.
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Probably not more jealous that I'm seeing Battleship tomorrow. Contemplating skipping it though.
People who like ultra cheese topped with some more cheese.
We can talk how x movie opening weekend record broken in first week but it breaks the second weekend record of y, then it is out of bounds? :lol The salt is in abundance here.
ViewtifulJC
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None of his movies make any money. Crank, Mechanic, Crank 2, Transporter trilogy, now Safe. As long as Statham can stay being Statham, he'll be fine.
They make money because they're extremely low budget and don't require big box office returns. He's probably more profitable than many actors in Hollywood.
I'm hopeful, but I'm really wondering what word of mouth is going to be like. It's more than what's being sold and I'm not sure how people are going to react to it.
Callibretto
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I love Stathams, but over time I no longer feel the need to see his movies on theatres, more like bluray or rental.
You also need to account the release period of Avatar - where even shitty movies show legs.
Besides, the % is only brought up by the salty people claim a hollow victory, when no one here is even discussing legs. We're talk records being shattered and shattered by a margin of 36 home trees.
Yes....? A 1% doesn't happen period, ever. The OW weekend doesn't matter. Avatar's 3rd weekend was 9.4%. 4th 26.6.
Avengers has already had a bigger drop. We're talking purely percentages here.
Die bitch.
This is the weekly BO, second weekend record downed. I can understand why the Avatar people are salty.
You should take note also that the Avengers is in almost 1000 more theaters, but look how close the per average is. Not gonna get into this whole thing of avengers vs. avatar, but just thought I'd point that out.
Well yeah, its impressive. But its not the big record.
In terms of numbers people talk about, theres the OW and the overall. No one is geeking out over the week 6 record. Its a little odd that now the 2nd weekend record is some huuuuge thing to crow about. The OW is already enough to shout about!
Avatar was also being seen almost exclusively in 3D or Imax.
You were not here during Avatar's run? smh
Moving goalposts, funny.
Yes, thats why I posted a stat earlier (for Speedy who likes his numbers without 3D and inflation). In terms of admissions for second weekend Avengers > TDK > Avatar.
Oh I was here. By that time we were waiting for the WW record.
Edit: Or did it have the record already...? Can't recall.
Manmademan
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I'm not entirely sure.
Avatar was notable as a visual spectacle that HAD to be seen, but the actual plot and dialogue are widely considered to be lackluster. With 3D rapidly being more and more passe, what's going to put butts in seats?
It made a ton, but I don't think I've ever run into anyone foaming at the mouth for a sequel the way people were for TDKR, or the later Harry Potter Films.
Kung Fu Jedi
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It was a series of unique circumstances that led to that 1% drop in Avatar numbers. Of course it is unheard of, but there were several things that contributed to it, i.e.: freak snowstorm, not much competition, etc. Anyway you slice it though, that is an impressive transition from Week 1 to Week 2.
Glad to see Avengers doing so well. It was a fun movie for sure and I'm likely to see it again down the line, which wasn't the case for Avatar. That was one-and-done for me.
Also, there are far too many people in this thread who are invested in how well one movie does over another. Don't quite understand that mentality.
Glad to see Avengers doing so well. It was a fun movie for sure and I'm likely to see it again down the line, which wasn't the case for Avatar. That was one-and-done for me.
Also, there are far too many people in this thread who are invested in how well one movie does over another. Don't quite understand that mentality.
Big things have small beginnings
Prometheus will do fine, especially since the 3D is THEE sex.
Yeah, it was a freak drop. But Avengers has a freaky OW. Take it where you can get it and all.
I don't think anyone is all that invested...this is the box office thread. There's nothing else to talk about besides this stuff.
Napoleonthechimp
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Which offers zero protection, so he's basically staring into a giant explosion. Son of Odin indeed.
Manmademan
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It'll do OK, but I'd be shocked if it breaks 200 million domestic. Whoever was saying "400 million" is crazy, high, or both. (edit, just scrolled up and saw 400 million as the WW...eh...still unlikely for the same reasons)
the reasoning?
-Prometheus is rated R. There are exactly 10 R rated films that grossed over 200 million domestic, and only 1 of those grossed over 300. (The passion of the christ)
-Prometheus is not only hard science fiction (I'd consider "avengers" or "star wars" to be soft science fiction, or science fantasy) but it's being marketed as a horror film. This makes it a VERY hard sell.
-Finally- Prometheus is a prequel to a long running line of films, but there really hasn't been a GOOD alien film since Aliens in 1986. Alien 3, Resurrection, and the two Aliens vs Predator films have arguably damaged the brand.
it'll be a good movie, but it has cult/sleeper hit written all over it.
Yeah, a quarter of the country was buried in a blizzard opening weekend. I remember driving home from opening night and cars were spinning off the road left and right. Scarey shit.
I didn't realize just how popular Avengers was until I found out my parents went to go see it. They are a 50 year old chinese couple that almost exclusively watches chinese television beamed by satellite from China and they they went to see Avengers due to people talking about how good it was. The last time this happened was with Avatar. Amazing.
Resurrection did respectable numbers overseas 15 years ago when the international market wasn't that big. Combine that with good word of mouth, 3D tax and not much competition aside from Madagascar and eventually Brave, and Prometheus could do well.
Skel1ingt0n
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Not that it matters here, and not that anyone will believe me; but I actually won three or four cheap "$10 bets" with AVATAR. I called a $1B WW box office the day before it released. And of course, everyone laughed at me and told me I'd be chalking up soon after that first weekend. But I stuck to my guns. At the time, I seriously felt like the only person that believed it would be a success.... and a huge one at that. Now, I'd have never guessed it's actual final tally; but for the most part, no one would dare expect half of what I was.
*shrug*
/brag
*shrug*
/brag
And what did they think of it?
My dad liked it, my mom was confused and complained about the 3D giving her a headache.
I have a lot of confidence in Prometheus doing really well, hopefully it pays off. My reasoning why it will do well;
- Rated R has an impact only in domestic, its not as strict an enforcement WW. So while the rating my impact the domestic numbers, overall I dont think it will significantly dent the total.
- Matrix Reloaded was also not a soft sci-fi film albeit it was coming off a very original IP. Audiences can "get" mind bending movies provided the structuring is good. No one expected a mind heist like Inception to gross 800M based on that aspect.
- I'm betting huge on Ridley fanboys to flock to the theatres, Ridley going back to sci-fi after decades is an event and there will be people who loved Alien, wanting to see the masters take on it rather than shitty sequels/crossovers.
- 3D. Even though we've got no feelers yet, it will be great. And it will be the 3D event movie of the summer i.e I expect the 3D split to be higher than other summer blockbusters.
Taking all that into consideration, I wouldnt be surprised if it posted similar numbers to Ryan, even though I think that is too optimistic, I really really hope it does well.
Not downplaying the fact that Avatar had an unworldly run, but people here are forgetting the fact that both its second and third weekends were holiday weekends. Not only that, but two of the best holiday weekends of the year for box office takes. The only other weekends that compare are memorial day and the fourth of July. The original Alvin and the Chipmunks opened on at the same time of the year as Avatar, and had a 36% drop in its second weekend and a 3% increase in its third weekend. Granted none of them opened to the numbers that Avatar did (and none of them continued to have great holds throughout Jan/Feb), but there are several instances of movies dropping <20% or even increasing on the last two weekends in December.
Avengers had an amazing second weekend. Yes it's hold was nothing close to Avatar's second weekend hold, but it opened over 2.5x higher and didn't have a holiday boost.
This has been a great year at the box office so far. The Hunger Games comes out of nowhere with hype a month or two before release to land the (at the time) third best opening weekend ever. It then defies it demographic and manages to have pretty good legs. Now the Avengers is shattering records, and we still have several potential blockbusters to go.
Avengers had an amazing second weekend. Yes it's hold was nothing close to Avatar's second weekend hold, but it opened over 2.5x higher and didn't have a holiday boost.
This has been a great year at the box office so far. The Hunger Games comes out of nowhere with hype a month or two before release to land the (at the time) third best opening weekend ever. It then defies it demographic and manages to have pretty good legs. Now the Avengers is shattering records, and we still have several potential blockbusters to go.
Nope. I was about 18 at the time.
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