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[Chamber]

Guys, Punk is gone.

 

[Deleted member 47027]

damn those titties are huge

 

[Uno Venova]

Guys, Punk is gone.

Seriously. Maybe we don't need any Punk airport updates either.

 

[The Elite]

So about CM Punk:

Spoiler

Bryan Alvarez just said WWE has two hotels, one in the middle of New Orleans where all the wrestlers are and one hotel a bit further away that has the biggest stars, where Triple H, Steph and Vince are also. It is also the hotel for "surprises." Now, here's the big news: AJ Lee has also been put in this hotel. So yeah, there you go.

This is like looking for a planet by analysing the wobble of a star.

 

[Nocturnowl]

http://i.imgur.com/2uRvSYI.png[IMG]

HHH doing what he does best. Fuuuuuuuuuuu.[/QUOTE]

The expression is killing me, it's amazing, it's like i'm witnessing the face Trips pulls at peak burial conditions.

 

[Aiii]

Guys, Punk is gone.

As long as we get pre WrestleMania rumors I don't even care. It is the best part about Mania.

 

[Anth0ny]

didn't everyone think brock was going to show up at mania two years ago too

if punk does show up, it'll be at raw. i don't think he will.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Guys, Punk is gone.

But what if he isn't?

 

[dream]

Maybe I was just spoiled by two years of Dwayne Johnson, but I'm kind of sad that there's no celebrity presence on this WrestleMania other than Dave Bautista and Maria Menounos.

 

[Glorified G]

Potential order lineup spoiler

Spoiler

Current WrestleMania Match Order Set?

Here is the current order:

The Shield vs. Kane & New Age Outlaws
"Stuff in the Middle"
John Cena vs. Bray Wyatt
Brock Lesnar vs. Undertaker
Diva Invitational
HHH vs. Daniel Bryan
World Title Match

Credit Bryan Alvarez, Figure Four Weekly Newsletter

 

[Aiii]

didn't everyone think brock was going to show up at mania two years ago too

if punk does show up, it'll be at raw. i don't think he will.

Raw is part of Mania, but if he returns, it will be at Mania to hype the rating and start a program with Austin for next year.

 

[The Elite]

Ugh. I don't like that setup.

Maybe I was just spoiled by two years of Dwayne Johnson, but I'm kind of sad that there's no celebrity presence on this WrestleMania other than Dave Bautista and Maria Menounos.

Hulk Hogan

 

[Vylash]

So about CM Punk:

Spoiler

Bryan Alvarez just said WWE has two hotels, one in the middle of New Orleans where all the wrestlers are and one hotel a bit further away that has the biggest stars, where Triple H, Steph and Vince are also. It is also the hotel for "surprises." Now, here's the big news: AJ Lee has also been put in this hotel. So yeah, there you go.

Ugh, please no, for the love of god no

 

[Malvingt2]

So about CM Punk:

Spoiler

Bryan Alvarez just said WWE has two hotels, one in the middle of New Orleans where all the wrestlers are and one hotel a bit further away that has the biggest stars, where Triple H, Steph and Vince are also. It is also the hotel for "surprises." Now, here's the big news: AJ Lee has also been put in this hotel. So yeah, there you go.

Please be true....

 

[Aiii]

Ugh, please no, for the love of god no

Don't cry, the more main eventers on WWE, the better

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

didn't everyone think brock was going to show up at mania two years ago too

if punk does show up, it'll be at raw. i don't think he will.

Yep. Mania should be (or at least feel like) the culmination of the company's big stories. It's not the place to start feuds.

 

[Dr Duncan Steel]

"I just realized, I might be going for 60 minutes. Fuck"

 

[dream]

Ugh. I don't like that setup.



Hulk Hogan

I'm kind of hoping Hulk turns, helps RKO retain the title, and forms a new nWo.

 

[Aiii]

Yep. Mania should be (or at least feel like) the culmination of the company's big stories. It's not the place to start feuds.

Why can't it have both, come on, you get your payoffs either way. I really don't get this argument, who cares?

 

[Macho Madness]

"I just realized, I might be going for 60 minutes. Fuck"

It's his favorite Wrestlemania match of all time.

 

[kiguel182]

Why can't it have both, come on, you get your payoffs either way. I really don't get this argument, who cares?

Stat the feuds on RAW. Bigger audience and Mania stays the culmination of the feuds.

It works way better.

 

[Vylash]

Don't cry, the more main eventers on WWE, the better

It'll be lazy mutton chop Punk, I don't want him

 

[Razorskin]

I'm kind of hoping Hulk turns, helps RKO retain the title, and forms a new nWo.

Punk then returns to join said nWo.

 

[Aiii]

Stat the feuds on RAW. Bigger audience and Mania stays the culmination of the feuds.

It works way better.

Continue the feud on Raw, same ratings, same audience, same end result.

 

[Malvingt2]

It'll be lazy mutton chop Punk, I don't want him

He looks fresh and recharged. I want him back.

 

[Hasney]

Honestly, the only good thing about the WM27 main event were those intro video packages. I'd rather they do them again than some random musical act.

 

[Macho Madness]

Why can't it have both, come on, you get your payoffs either way. I really don't get this argument, who cares?

Because it's always better to end shit before starting new shit. Wrestlemania is the end of the wrestling year, so to speak. Not a good place to begin shit or you end up like Wrestlemania 27, which is looked back as a really crappy Wrestlemania because they sacrificed it for the next year. It leaves a bad taste, and there's no real incentive to do so when you should be focused on ending and climaxing what needs to end.

 

[Big One]

You know what would be awesome? If they have an improntu matchup with Antonio Cesaro and Jack Swagger just beating the everliving shit out of each other. It'll start out as a backroom brawl but go into the ring kind of like Undertaker vs. Mankind at Summerslam. They'll be pissed because Cesaro got pinned by the Usos or something.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Honestly, I just want HHH to win

and then beat his former Evolution buddies and walk out champ

Seriously.

 

[kiguel182]

Continue the feud on Raw, same ratings, same audience, same end result.

Except instead of a payoff at Mania you get a cliffhanger.

Mania (and PPVs in general) are supposed to be the culmination of feuds were the payoffs happen. If you start new storylines there it loses some part of that magic.

Raw after Mania as this kickoff of new feuds also builds hype for the show itself.

What you are suggesting doesn't have any advantage compared to today, it seems to have drawbacks.

 

[Hasney]

If Bryans matches are back to back, I can see them not having Bryan win even more. Bigger excuse as to why he failed.

 

[Courage]

Honestly, I just want HHH to win

and then beat his former Evolution buddies and walk out champ

Seriously.

An Evolution feud would be lame. An Evolution reunion to take down Bryan as champ would be ace.

 

[Aiii]

Except instead of a payoff at Mania you get a cliffhanger.

Mania (and PPVs in general) are supposed to be the culmination of feuds were the payoffs happen. If you start new storylines there it loses some part of that magic.

Raw after Mania as this kickoff of new feuds also builds hype for the show itself.

What you are suggesting doesn't have any advantage compared to today, it seems to have drawbacks.

You get a Punk thing in the middle of the show with Austin and then you still end the show with Bryan's celebration. The show is four Hours long. Seriously, you can do both, they're not even related.

 

[dream]

I know this wretched company likes to have babyfaces celebrating as WrestleManias go off the air, but man, Miz really should have retained in this match.

 

[Aiii]

I know this wretched company likes to have babyfaces celebrating as WrestleManias go off the air, but man, Miz really should have retained in this match.

...

He did.

 

[dream]

Did he really?

 

[kiguel182]

You get a Punk thing in the middle of the show with Austin and then you still end the show with Bryan's celebration. The show is four Hours long. Seriously, you can do both, they're not even related.

I don't agree that it's better than ending RAW after Mania with that segment

Mania is the culmination of 3 months (or more) of build up. It's the end of the road not the beginning of another one.

That segment would just be weird at Mania, it would work so much better on RAW.

We won't agree in this but I'll stand by this reasoning.

 

[Anth0ny]

Why can't it have both, come on, you get your payoffs either way. I really don't get this argument, who cares?

I'm not saying it's right, or what I want, but it's just how they roll. Remember Del Rio beating Swagger last year, which led to "WE WANT ZIGGLER" chants as he posed with the belt? Ziggler cashing in and getting the title would have been a fucking epic wrestlemania moment.

Instead, they wait for the next night. They leave all the awesome shit for the next night, which is why Raw After Mania has become its own thing at this point. Mania is boring, vanilla, good guy wins shit. Raw After Mania is great

 

[Aiii]

I'm not saying it's right, or what I want, but it's just how they roll. Remember Del Rio beating Swagger last year, which led to "WE WANT ZIGGLER" chants as he posed with the belt? Ziggler cashing in and getting the title would have been a fucking epic wrestlemania moment.

Instead, they wait for the next night. They leave all the awesome shit for the next night, which is why Raw After Mania has become its own thing at this point. Mania is boring, vanilla, good guy wins shit. Raw After Mania is great

That's because they want a big moment on Raw because of the huge audience it gets. This year I reckon it will be Sting and a Midcard title change, probably AJ losing the title to Naomi one on one.

 

[Hasney]

I know this wretched company likes to have babyfaces celebrating as WrestleManias go off the air, but man, Miz really should have retained in this match.

...

He did.

Nuh-uh. They weren't happy with the finish, so in the network version, Cena wins. They just shove some footage from the next PPV on.

 

[funkystudent]

If Punk was showing up, which he isnt, they wouldnt put him up in the same hotel as ANYONE before the actually PPV. He would be flying in the day of the show and be hidden in a box until his time to go out to the arena.


Also still think Bryan is getting screwed again. Triple H's boyhood dream to bury the entire human race will come true!

 

[Courage]

Did he really?

Are you walking about WM27?

 

[Aiii]

If Punk was showing up, which he isnt, they wouldnt put him up in the same hotel as ANYONE before the actually PPV. He would be flying in the day of the show and be hidden in a box until his time to go out to the arena.


Also still think Bryan is getting screwed again. Triple H's boyhood dream to bury the entire human race will come true!

He is hidden, nobody knows if he is anywhere, just that AJ happens to be in a different hotel than the rest of the regular talent. Could be they just really like her and want her at the McMahon family dinners. maybe she babysits the kids when Steph is doing press events.

 

[dream]

I guess I retroactively changed the finish to Cena beating Miz because of how badly WWE dropped the ball on Miz afterwards.

 

[kiguel182]

He is hidden, nobody knows if he is anywhere, just that AJ happens to be in a different hotel than the rest of the regular talent. Could be they just really like her and want her at the McMahon family dinners. maybe she babysits the kids when Steph is doing press events.

Or they are taking her hostage to convince Punk to talk with them.

Full on evil empire.

 

[Aiii]

Or they are taking her hostage to convince Punk to talk with them.

Full on evil empire.

My mind just went to a basement scene with AJ and Steph that involved lots of whipping. WrestleMania XXX indeed.

 

[Rapstah]

Eva Marie's larger-than-life personality forced AJ Lee out of the normal hotel.

 

[kiguel182]

My mind just went to a basement scene with AJ and Steph that involved lots of whipping. WrestleMania XXX indeed.

Does Punk interrupt at any point? Give me some details.

 

[krae_man]

It's his favorite Wrestlemania match of all time.

He has bad taste, Bret's match the next year was better.

 

[Aiii]

Does Punk interrupt at any point? Give me some details.

That's not PG brother.