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XCOM 2 |OT| Be Aggressive! Be Be Aggressive!
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Well it's fixed what it says it's fixed and that's about it.
Long range snipers got nerfed hard. In my first game I didn't realize that and had snipers, I somewhat alleviated it by using a spider suit so I could up to height advantage and still get a sniper shot in the same round, but Gunslingers seem way more useful.
bonesmccoy
Banned
The hotfix completely tanked performance for me. I've since re-verified or whatever the game files in hopes of fixing it, but no; everything now on the strat layer has a 3-5 second stutter now.
I dunno. Every time I use proxy mines to start the ambush, they only hit one person :< So I set them off on my turn now.
As much as I hate VIP missions, my favorite experience in this game was when I almost stealthed a rescue mission on Legendary. I only had a ranger (Mazre) and 4 rooks so I slapped on SMGs and went for it. The rooks made it all the way to the end undetected, but the VIP couldn't quite make it out in 1 turn. So I hacked the door, and sprinted to cover and to break LoS from 3 pods + reinforcements, hunkering those I could. Everyone survived the onslaught and the overwatch fire over the LZ and made it out. Well, almost everyone.
Unfortunately, a patrol got stuck on Mazre at the beginning, so I had to leave him behind until everyone else evaced so that he didn't break concealment. This wouldn't have happened if I hadn't idiotically slapped the shotgun back on him 'just in case' I needed the extra damage.
On the other hand, after that was done, I still had 8 turns to evac and he had conceal to get back into stealth to make it the rest of the way.
Made it up to here before the erratically moving sectoid (literally zigzagging around the LZ looking for the ranger) walked past and broke the stealth. Miraculously survived the onslaught of every advent on the map to make the last run to the LZ and then
RIP Mazre
I'm sorry I swapped out your SMG. Also sorry I didn't move you just one step further that last turn. The problem was I counted how many steps I needed and apparently I miscounted .:x
I've never really had issues with turn limits and a long range sniper. The ones where you secure an objective, you can usually park them in the back and you're all good with clear sightlines to rain hell on people. If it's a mission you need to evac then you just have to be mindful of positioning but it's very rare my sniper gets caught out of position and either way you rarely fight that many pods heading to an escape that you can't evaporate in the first turn anyway.
Also I never had the spider suit. Just made one and I hear grapple is a free action is this is gonna be interesting.
Also I never had the spider suit. Just made one and I hear grapple is a free action is this is gonna be interesting.
I...no. No.
MrCompletely
Member
Well, one is an attack that incapacitates a unit, for starters.
Deadeye just sucks, every time I think about using it I look at the aim penalty and nope back to a normal shot.
Yes. But it's rare. I even saw the odds on some. Ini file when I was checking them out, but I don't remember now.
Like, the odds for escaping it double or something like that after doing the mission de one time, but it's still there.
RandomSeed
Member
Deadeye will probably be fixed like snap shot was. Funny they did the same thing twice with sniper abilities...the aim penalty is too harsh.
TemplaerDude
Member
Deadeye has saved my bacon more than a couple times, but I also play my snipers so far in the back that I've never viewed pistols as a viable option. In fact, I think I've only used the pistol twice.
Yeah, I see that.
I'm more into the whole superheroism, high-tech badass aspect of it, and watching my squad fail is like the opposite of fun for me. Suffice it to say, I'm probably going to stick with the lower difficulty settings for most of my playtime. (I tried Impossible a few times on Enemy Within and that was enough to convince me to never try it ever again.)
LurkerPrime
Member
Ironman XCOM is like nothing else. As mentioned, it's a glorious mix of roguelike and strategy.
Wait, is it scripted? I thought it was just another threat card.
Which reminds me...
Bugwatch: when the UFO intercepted me, it flew to me--freezing me in place--then flew all the way around the globe to catch up to me and initiate combat.
Wait, is it scripted? I thought it was just another threat card.
Which reminds me...
Bugwatch: when the UFO intercepted me, it flew to me--freezing me in place--then flew all the way around the globe to catch up to me and initiate combat.
Oh yeah, something like this happened to me.
Bradford yelled "Evasive maneuvers" and flew to California, dodging the UFO
Then he stayed in place for a full day as the UFO flew around the globe for another pass and intercepted him while he hovered over Western US instead of maneuvering evasively for who knows what reason. Maybe he just liked the sunshine
LurkerPrime
Member
XCOM is a weird world where bizarre mistakes happen all the time, thanks to failed rolls and RNG gods. There's probably a good police procedural in there somewhere (not the Bureau, dammit.)
Dick Justice
Banned
Let it be said that riding the avatar project timer to the near-end isn't always a good idea. I did that, then did the first blacksite mission. Immediately after the mission, the fuckers made progress again, with an 11-day countdown, and I was one country away from the nearest alien facility, with low intel and no resistance comms built. So I had to build the comms facility and wait it out at resistance HQ to build up intel, then managed to do the mission with less than a day remaining.
CertifiedFP
Member
Any estimates on how possible it'd be to make a properly functioning Brainsucker unit as a mod? Particularly pertaining to the likes of setting it up such that the victim unit would be in a perma-Dominated state independent of the Dominator's life (In this case, the Brainsucker which dies immediately afterward), in addition to being removed from the roster wholly and not being open for a rescue mission later like I'd assume normally mind-controlled units would be if the last unit left.
Not entirely sure if developing it would be worth my time, even as much as I'd love to work on a set of mods that Apocalypse-ify XCOM 2.
Not entirely sure if developing it would be worth my time, even as much as I'd love to work on a set of mods that Apocalypse-ify XCOM 2.
Seeing the OpenXCOM community struggle with making a Brainsucker unit work properly even in an open-source environment has seriously demoralized me on the idea of trying to do the same in a closed-source environment.
I'll give it a try, later.
LurkerPrime
Member
I wonder if an expansion will add a cover-restoring or cover-creating unit to disrupt the Grenadier's capabilities. After EW's invisible Squadsight-ambushers, I think it's very likely.
Also, Bradford fucking sucks at flying the Avenger.
vpance
Member
I rode it out too before doing the first blacksite mission, although I'm not sure there's any major benefit of doing that since the mission scales in difficulty. I just wanted to have predator armor first though. I'm still hovering around 2 bars till completion for like last few months so I'm safe from those 1 bar progress jumps for now.
Kaffeemann
Banned
I thought I was good at this game. Decided to do a Commander/Ironman with several ini tweaks that improve enemy AI, remove the hidden XCOM hit bonus, etc.
Guess who was wrong?
Guess who was wrong?
RandomSeed
Member
Chance to shutdown Sectopod 68%
EMP bomb
Chance to shutdown Sectopod 67%
WTF?
EMP bomb
Chance to shutdown Sectopod 67%
WTF?
Naw, you just get tracer rounds + Aim Stim + Superior Scope, your aim will nearly always be close to 100% even with Deadeye, especially if you have the higher ground.
Just finished the game.
Despite the technical shortcomings it might be one of the best games I've ever played and I'm really hopeful on what they may deliver in the future.
All story missions felt great and diverse, especially the last one. The other missions also did a great job of mixing environments and objectives, so the mid-to-late-game never felt like a chore.
If I had to point any fault at it (besides the technical hiccups) it would be that you fight too few aliens and spend most of the time fighting robots and ADVENT minions.
Despite the technical shortcomings it might be one of the best games I've ever played and I'm really hopeful on what they may deliver in the future.
All story missions felt great and diverse, especially the last one. The other missions also did a great job of mixing environments and objectives, so the mid-to-late-game never felt like a chore.
If I had to point any fault at it (besides the technical hiccups) it would be that you fight too few aliens and spend most of the time fighting robots and ADVENT minions.
The lack of Elders throughout the story also seemed like a missed opportunity.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
One of the DLCs mentions "ruler" aliens. Could be something interesting there.
Deadeye is useful in some instances, but I do agree that the damage versus to-hit tradeoff isn't the best.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Did anyone do a breakdown of how much EXP each alien awards?
They should have made a more upgraded advent troop in the storyline
Poodlestrike
Banned
Alien variety is actually pretty good (IMO), but after a certain point that stops mattering because they just die too fast.
This is largely at the feet of Grenadiers effectively removing enemy cover as a factor, but over-effective EMP bombs and bluescreen rounds don't help.
This is largely at the feet of Grenadiers effectively removing enemy cover as a factor, but over-effective EMP bombs and bluescreen rounds don't help.
Late game enemies die too fast even without EMP/bluescreen. Normal acid grenades coupled with rapid-fire rangers take down pods fairly quickly.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
I've been experimenting with using 2 specialists with skullmining ASAP to farm intel as early as possible to buy more stuff at the black market. Dunno if it's worth it yet.
Poodlestrike
Banned
I was mostly just thinking about how emps and bluescreen tear the hell out of what should be some of the nastiest baddies in the game (Gatekeepers and Sectopods).
You damaged the hacking route clearly
darkwing-buck
Member
Anyone know the mod that lets you use low-tier equipment/weapons in the later stages of the game? I wanna use some of these assault rifle mods but the stats on em are weak.
RandomSeed
Member
Shit. I wanted to hack the planet.
That is very true.
I've often maintained that most games should get harder not easier as the game progresses. With XCOM, it's the other way around since the number and effectiveness of solutions for a given enemy increases.
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