How do you use waypoints, anyway?
Eh, the aliens start with some progress. Three I think. Don't let them get any freebie progress, but don't worry about the first 3-4 too much either.
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How do you use waypoints, anyway?
Eh, the aliens start with some progress. Three I think. Don't let them get any freebie progress, but don't worry about the first 3-4 too much either.
Activate waypoint mode with alt, then right click to confirm a waypoint. It automatically shrinks your movement area too!
Shake Appeal
Member
Also, Sectoids absolutely use Mind Control on Commander and below. They don't even choose to use "Mind Control": the ability is called "Mindspin" and it can cause a range of effects including Mind Control.
LurkerPrime
Member
RNG gods are fickle beasts.
On the right: Kojo Sesay. A tough grenadier with endless style. (It's mostly the glasses.)
On the left: Emily Palmer. Ranger, blademaster, covert operative; she is many things, and all of them are awesome.
On the right: Kojo Sesay. A tough grenadier with endless style. (It's mostly the glasses.)
supermetfreud
Member
Oh, so there's a LoS indicator in this one? Thank Christ. I'm playing through EU right now, and not knowing what the fuck is in range at any given moment seriously hinders my ability to plan shit out successfully.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Welp, had a second mission go ENTIRELY sideways, and with only 2 remaining units I decided to call it quits on that campaign 
Started with the tutorial, and there's actually a whole bunch of cutscenes there
Started with the tutorial, and there's actually a whole bunch of cutscenes there
Colonel Nasty
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if I buy the boxed version is it a steam code?
I'm on mac and it only says Windows
I'm on mac and it only says Windows
jesus fucking christ snake waifus and stun lancers aren't kidding around
and that's how my entire 4 man squad got instantly wiped in one turn
Oh yeah snakes just got that poison spit, no biggy - HOLY SHIT DID THAT SNAKE JUST SCORPION PULL MY DUDE FROM OUT OF HALF-COVER?!?!? Well I'll rescue him with my other two - holy crap they're running forward like crazy - OH GOD UNCONSCIOUS IN ONE HIT?!?!?! WHAT THE - AAHHHHHH
and that's how my entire 4 man squad got instantly wiped in one turn
AndyMoogle
Member
The biggest problem with this game is that all the Swedish names are actually Norwegian names. I'm only kind of joking.
marvelharvey
Member
How to recruit more engineers? 30 minutes ago, I was shown a screen where I could purchase an engineer and scientist, but I was lacking in resources at the time. Now that I've got the resources I've no idea where that screen was.
Also, on my last mission:
Turn 3: sniper misses 45% shot
Turn 4: sniper misses 55% shot
Turn 6: sniper misses 80% shot
Turn 8: sniper misses 75% shot
Turn 9: sniper misses 60% shot
Turn 10: sniper 'accidentally' runs towards a group of aliens and stands out in the open, forgetting to hide behind cover. Goodbye, I don't need people like that on my team.
Also, on my last mission:
Turn 3: sniper misses 45% shot
Turn 4: sniper misses 55% shot
Turn 6: sniper misses 80% shot
Turn 8: sniper misses 75% shot
Turn 9: sniper misses 60% shot
Turn 10: sniper 'accidentally' runs towards a group of aliens and stands out in the open, forgetting to hide behind cover. Goodbye, I don't need people like that on my team.
I'm 99.9% sure it's a full Steamworks game so retail should give you a code.
Kane Zakharov
Banned
I'm not seeing any red lines, unless I'm being stupid, which is definitely possible. Didn't know about the middle mouse button zoom out, that'll come in handy.
Going by xcom percentages, that 0.1% means there is a rather large chance you are wrong.
You need to be 100% sure.
There's no red line, look for a crosshairs symbol next to the enemy health bars.
Honestly, it could stand to be a bit more obvious.
MichaelFassbender
Member
Ain't that the truth.
"Commander! We're woefully understaffed! Also, that truck full of morphine is around back, not sure why they wanted all the water coolers replaced by "morphine coolers," it just sounds silly."
I'd like to see vectors extending to all targets in sight as you mouseover potential destinations.
Stiler
Member
Finally making some progress.
My favorite character so far:
Is it just me or do the big ass mini-gun soldiers have really low range though?
Like I set him up to overwatch in open areas where enemies are going to be and if they even at medium range he seems to miss about 90% of the time.
edit - also it seems a bit strange that the muzzle flash is coming from the middle and not one of the three barrels...
My favorite character so far:
Is it just me or do the big ass mini-gun soldiers have really low range though?
Like I set him up to overwatch in open areas where enemies are going to be and if they even at medium range he seems to miss about 90% of the time.
edit - also it seems a bit strange that the muzzle flash is coming from the middle and not one of the three barrels...
MichaelFassbender
Member
Their range is so low that Satan himself sweats.
LurkerPrime
Member
I'm pretty sure XCOM 2 miniguns are like they were in XCOM: EU. High damage and destructive, but poor range, accuracy, and ammo.
Speaking of weapons, shotguns seem a lot stronger than in EU. And those swords. It's just the best combo ever.
Pistol shots and sword slashes look great, every time.
Speaking of weapons, shotguns seem a lot stronger than in EU. And those swords. It's just the best combo ever.
Pistol shots and sword slashes look great, every time.
Agree shotguns are beast. But no range. I think they found the perfect balance. I'm still using the first ninja lady I got at the beginning of the game. Her sword is also dope. It also seems to crit a lot. They miss her a lot too when she runs up on em.
Also, the environmental destruction? Wow.
Quote
Member
There are too many timers. Between timers during missions, Avatar Project and timed events i'm going to have a heart attack. I'm considering installing one of the timer mods.
There is no better feeling than completing all the objectives in a mission without losing anyone. Then you get to base and they're out of commission due to wounding.
There is no better feeling than completing all the objectives in a mission without losing anyone. Then you get to base and they're out of commission due to wounding.
Dangansona
Member
A true act of grace from the Mods.
Fragamemnon
Member
The aim penalty on shotguns is different in XCOM 2 and it makes them a bit more viable as medium range weapons.
I've finally sort of figured out the early sort of game on legend-use the engineer to accelerate your GTS, try like hell to keep one of your gatecrasher rookies alive and feed them kills to get promoted to Sargeant as soon as possible, then immediately upgrade squad size. I'm pretty sure the month 2 aliens wipe the floor with four man squads (which is why you kill stun lancers over everything else).
I've finally sort of figured out the early sort of game on legend-use the engineer to accelerate your GTS, try like hell to keep one of your gatecrasher rookies alive and feed them kills to get promoted to Sargeant as soon as possible, then immediately upgrade squad size. I'm pretty sure the month 2 aliens wipe the floor with four man squads (which is why you kill stun lancers over everything else).
Lone_Prodigy
Member
Did anyone suggest "XCOM Give It To Ya" as a thread title?
Checking out Steam Charts and XCOM 2 has apparently taken the number 10 spot for highest peak players of all time (well, since they started recording I suppose), though the bottom half of the list isn't huge in number compared to the juggernauts on top. Might be able to climb to 9 or 8 (Team Fortress 2 and Total War Rome 2) over the weekend as they're only a few thousand away.
AlimNassor
Banned
I find it funny how most lpers doing xcom usually stomp it easily. Yet here I am restarting again cuz a squad wipe.
Incendiary
Banned
Brutal.
They totally deserved it though. If you can't run with the best, don't join the resistance.
It'll pop up automatically eventually.
CertifiedFP
Member
Not to knock on this game, love it so far except for the performance issues that are going to make this game the Crysis of this GPU gen (And not for its graphics)...
But why do people say XCOM 2's setting has never been done before?
It's literally Half Life 2, but with a Brave New World bent instead of 1984.
But why do people say XCOM 2's setting has never been done before?
It's literally Half Life 2, but with a Brave New World bent instead of 1984.
Who says that? Ive never seen anyone say that. Hell I havent seen anyone talk about the plot at all
CertifiedFP
Member
Discussion a few pages ago with someone bitching about losing EU being canon where someone said that loss being canon allowed for a unique setting.
Unique for XCOM, sure, that's definitely new ground for the IP, but occupied Earth's been done before.
I read / heard somewhere that they went with that because their data showed that most people failed the enemy unknown campaign
Lol if its true
Then dont use max settings like 99.9% of us arent.
I read / heard somewhere that they went with that because their data showed that most people failed the enemy unknown campaign
Lol if its true
Well everyone starts out failing
I need to give Firebrand a raise after this mission. VIP Breakout, got dropped on a tall roof, with concealed vision of two enemy patrols. Those missions get a lot easier when you take out two pods in one ambush. Extracted with four turns left. Also, my grenades say that hacking a cell door isn't necessary.
I think it's Blacksite time next. I need to knock the Avatar counter down a peg, and until I get Resistance Comms going, I don't see any other way. The magnetic weapons are sweet, though, but I think I'll have to go without Cannon and Sniper Rifle for that one.
I think it's Blacksite time next. I need to knock the Avatar counter down a peg, and until I get Resistance Comms going, I don't see any other way. The magnetic weapons are sweet, though, but I think I'll have to go without Cannon and Sniper Rifle for that one.
Fragamemnon
Member
Finally getting a legend/ironman roster that might be able to do something. I still don't know what I am doing on the strategic layer but the tactical missions turned on a dime once I got squad size upgrade.
Also one of the things about the timers is that they feel really frontloaded-when you are working with a team of four, all with one item cooldown a mission at most, it's hard to pack in enough action economy sometimes. Next time I'm going to make a bigger emphasis on fighting on roofs when I can since you either get elevation OR you get double damage out of your grenades when you drop the floor out from under them.
Really enjoying the game so far on Veteran, it has been a good challenge level for me. Have had to leave some people behind and have some casualties too. Think that I might have screwed myself over by putting off constructing the Resistance Comms facility, but we will see if I can pull through or not.
Also, I don't mind the 12 turn timer missions but frustrated that those also mandate a ser extract point, and oh by the way reinforcements will arrive within activation distance of your forced extract site one turn after securing the VIP.
If someone makes a mod that lets you use the beacon to call in your own extract grid for those missions I will happily use it. Just makes sense tactically - why advance beyond ground you have likely yet to recon or clear? Better to fall back and regroup in known territory that's already been cleared out. I get what they are going for game design wise, but its hard for me to overlook it.
Also, I don't mind the 12 turn timer missions but frustrated that those also mandate a ser extract point, and oh by the way reinforcements will arrive within activation distance of your forced extract site one turn after securing the VIP.
If someone makes a mod that lets you use the beacon to call in your own extract grid for those missions I will happily use it. Just makes sense tactically - why advance beyond ground you have likely yet to recon or clear? Better to fall back and regroup in known territory that's already been cleared out. I get what they are going for game design wise, but its hard for me to overlook it.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Is there a stat that dictates panic competency? Because I just found a Rookie who might have set the gold standard.
I hopped (dashing) her down off of a building, after gaining a commanding view of the street below and the structure holding the extraction poin, only to find that IMMEDIATELY behind her were a Sectoid and an Advent trooper... naturally, at this point I was already writing her eulogy. But then the Sectoid took cover ahead of her, in a position she was shielded from, and the trooper took up on behind her. "Okay," I think, "so maybe she'll get hit for 3 or so and then mind controlled."
But the sectoid goes before the trooper, and this genius decides to panic my little rookie. She does, then runs around into high cover (against BOTH of them), pulls out her gun, and I swear to god lands a crit on the sectoid. Absolutely brilliant.
I hopped (dashing) her down off of a building, after gaining a commanding view of the street below and the structure holding the extraction poin, only to find that IMMEDIATELY behind her were a Sectoid and an Advent trooper... naturally, at this point I was already writing her eulogy. But then the Sectoid took cover ahead of her, in a position she was shielded from, and the trooper took up on behind her. "Okay," I think, "so maybe she'll get hit for 3 or so and then mind controlled."
But the sectoid goes before the trooper, and this genius decides to panic my little rookie. She does, then runs around into high cover (against BOTH of them), pulls out her gun, and I swear to god lands a crit on the sectoid. Absolutely brilliant.
Aztechnology
Member
Turn down your settings? I have a 5820k, 970. I get near 60 (Some variance) most the time and I only lowered a few settings. AA to FXAA anisotropic to 8x. Everything else still maxed.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Okay, first real balance quibble: Sectoids are way, WAY too inclined to use their powers. This guy's at one life, surrounded by my dudes, and uses his one action on... raising a zombie.
They might as well not even HAVE guns.
They might as well not even HAVE guns.
Maybe he really likes zombies
Specialist hack skills?
Yeah, specialists are the real MVPs. I always have two for hacking and healing.
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