Isn't that 11 Mana?
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Isn't that 11 Mana?
Yey, got to rank 5. I've had a winning streak ever since rank 8 with my paladin deck. But when I won the first game after reaching rank 5, I only got 1 star. Googled it and found that winning streaks aren't involved in rank 5 and below.
Oh well, that makes sense. I guess I'll just have to hunker down and work harder from now on
Oh well, that makes sense. I guess I'll just have to hunker down and work harder from now on
Haunted
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ha!Not sure if you guys have seen those but they are pretty spot on
(I apologize if it's old)
GoT hearthstone cards.
Someone should make some cards of NeoGAFfers. Like this:
Bish
10 Mana
6 / 6
Battlecry: Destroy an enemy minion.
Ntkrnl
8 Mana
10 / 10
Charge. Dies at the end of your turn.
EDIT; Man, I hate to whine again, but it really does seem as if Rank 12 is a brick wall, at least for me. I finally dipped into Rank 11, and now I had a weird Zoolock rush me down who ran Bane of Doom, got a 6/6 from it and used Soul Siphon on turn 7 to kill my Acolyte, the only minion I had on the board at that time. After that I got burst down from 31 health in two turns vs. a Miracle Rogue despite being in control the entire game and having killed both his Gadgetzans and just now I lost to a Priest for the sole reason of him Thoughtstealing my Armorsmith and me not being able to deal with it due to him healing it all the time with a Northshire Clerick up. Whelp, I guess I'll just have to hit that brick wall harder. Maybe I'll eventually get through.
Bish
10 Mana
6 / 6
Battlecry: Destroy an enemy minion.
Ntkrnl
8 Mana
10 / 10
Charge. Dies at the end of your turn.
EDIT; Man, I hate to whine again, but it really does seem as if Rank 12 is a brick wall, at least for me. I finally dipped into Rank 11, and now I had a weird Zoolock rush me down who ran Bane of Doom, got a 6/6 from it and used Soul Siphon on turn 7 to kill my Acolyte, the only minion I had on the board at that time. After that I got burst down from 31 health in two turns vs. a Miracle Rogue despite being in control the entire game and having killed both his Gadgetzans and just now I lost to a Priest for the sole reason of him Thoughtstealing my Armorsmith and me not being able to deal with it due to him healing it all the time with a Northshire Clerick up. Whelp, I guess I'll just have to hit that brick wall harder. Maybe I'll eventually get through.
That's usually not recommended.If the other players has hard removal,or even silent you are in trouble.
Professor Lich
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Yeah, I don't think I'd ever play a huge Van Cleef without being able to protect it. You play your whole hand for a huge gamble. Granted, that is the whole point.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Ugh, druid vs control warrior where my savage roar was not within the first 27-28 cards drawn.
partyphone
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yeah. it's totally worth losing a game for. this is a single game on ladder not a tourney for big money.
^ I just Wrath that with 1 mana to spare
Yeah it's definitely a gamble. I pulled it off in Arena vs. someone running a Paladin deck and he hadn't yet drawn anything that could neutralize it. Avast!
I hate people like you who do that shit
I think I just posted about the guy who double Blessing of Kings'd a Thrallmar Farseer and I couldn't kill it because he had a 3/3 taunt up and I only had a 2 dmg weapon =(
I'm still not over how bullshit that felt.
Here's a standard Miracle decklist.
You can make a lot of replacements with other cheaper/neutral cards:
Thalnos replaced with Kobold Geomancer or Novice Engineer
Leeroy replaced with Arcane Golem
Azure Drake replaced with some generic 4-5 drop
However, the things you absolutely can't do without are:
Gadgetzan Auctioneer
Preparation (at least 1)
Conceal
Shadowstep
Note that every substitution you make to a Miracle deck has a drastic effect on its viability. VanCleef is, for all intents and purposes, more easily substituted than Leeroy.
Mobius and pet octopus
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What do you guys think?
Druid midrange deck, FON + SR is one of my finishers
Do you think Ragnaros or Cenarius?
I would just test cenarius myself but I haven't crafted him yet.
Druid midrange deck, FON + SR is one of my finishers
Do you think Ragnaros or Cenarius?
I would just test cenarius myself but I haven't crafted him yet.
Here's a standard Miracle decklist.
You can make a lot of replacements with other cheaper/neutral cards:
Thalnos replaced with Kobold Geomancer or Novice Engineer
Leeroy replaced with Arcane Golem
Azure Drake replaced with some generic 4-5 drop
However, the things you absolutely can't do without are:
Gadgetzan Auctioneer
Preparation (at least 1)
Conceal
Shadowstep
Note that every substitution you make to a Miracle deck has a drastic effect on its viability. VanCleef is, for all intents and purposes, more easily substituted than Leeroy.
Well, thanks, I will see what can I do it with what I had in hand
Mobius and pet octopus
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I don't think you need VC. Most of the time I don't see him used. There are also different miracle builds, like at least 3 or maybe even 4 now. Some rely on assassin's blade, questing adventurer, van cleef, malygos, mana addict, etc.
I often use Edwin as bait to get my opponent to spend his hard removals when in reality I'm planning to buff Auctioneer or the SI:7 Agents ( or Mana Addicts) into damage monsters.
That said, he's very useful in a variety of Rogue decks. Not just Miracle. Just remember the more you buff him the bigger a removal target he is and the more spells you'll have thrown down the toilet. I rarely take him higher than 6/6.
That said, he's very useful in a variety of Rogue decks. Not just Miracle. Just remember the more you buff him the bigger a removal target he is and the more spells you'll have thrown down the toilet. I rarely take him higher than 6/6.
RumblingRosco
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I agree, VC is not needed.
Like I implied earlier, VanCleef is actually the most replaceable Legendary in Miracles. You can get very far with a VanCleefless Miracle Rogue deck.
I think Questing Adventurer is actually better in Miracle Rogue. VanCleef can be combo'd like crazy for a massive early game minion, but that generally means playing out cards for just buffing up VanCleef, and that is a prime example of putting all your eggs in one basket and it will lose you some games. Questing Adventurer on the other hand does not require you to instantly play cards as you can just buff him over time by playing as you normally would. Turn 3 QE + Coin + Conceal = 4/4 minion. Play more cards to heal/buff him, then when you get your Gadgetzan and QE is still up, you've pretty much won the game.
Interesting that they put Warlock relatively low. A case of "good for leveling, not so good at the top?". Or is it Zoo/Lock fatigue together with Hunter nerf? I've definitely seen more Rogues overall even at my low rank, which usually means top streamers are doing good with them.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
Leeroy really. Thalnos isn't essential. You could put in uh.. argents instead lol..
The list was written before the UTH change, actually, so it might soon be outdated. Warlock's biggest enemy in Ladder was Hunter, because you really don't want to Lifetap against them, anymore than you want to summon totems against them.
I have only played about 12 days so far but I really like the game. One probleme I have is the arena... I think I did 5 runs :
1st : 0-3 Rogue
2nd : 3-0 ! then 3-3... Druid
3rd : 0-3 Warrior 0 AOE, 0 Weapon :/
4th : 0-3 Priest
5th : 0-2 => 2-2 => 2-3 Rogue
It seems Mage is my worst matchup, I never win against them.
What's the best class to choose when you do an arena run ?
Edit :
Damn I wasted so much free gold...
1st : 0-3 Rogue
2nd : 3-0 ! then 3-3... Druid
3rd : 0-3 Warrior 0 AOE, 0 Weapon :/
4th : 0-3 Priest
5th : 0-2 => 2-2 => 2-3 Rogue
It seems Mage is my worst matchup, I never win against them.
What's the best class to choose when you do an arena run ?
Edit :
Damn I wasted so much free gold...
Most expensive: Leeroy, Bloodmage Thalnos, Edwin 1600 dust each
Preparation x2 at 400 each also kinda hurts but Prep is invaluable to the class so it's worth it
The Wild Pyro Burstdown variant only has one legendary (Leeroy)
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/51268-burstdown-wild-pyro-variant
Here is a budget Burstdown Miracle with zero legendaries:
http://www.hearthpwn.com/decks/44557-budget-burstdown-miracle
Free_Gold is always on Twitch experimenting with new decks.
KojiKnight
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My Miracle rogue also contains 2 arcane golems. They are great cards even if you have Leeroy since they are more mana efficient, though slightly less damage. Great mid-game finishers.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Zoo lock is very common atm and kinda sucks cause the deck I feel like playing on ladder is not so hot vs them and I haven't figured out how I can do it without changing too much. Oh well, I win some of them though.
Oh, that makes sense.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
I still think new players shouldn't jump into arena until they have two weeks of constructed under their belt for card knowledge. Or some decent stream watching. Trial by fire I guess.
Rare:
Gadgetzan Auctioneer x2 (No substitute)
SI:7 Agent x2 (No substitute)
Epic:
Preparation x2 (No substitute)
Legendary:
Leeroy Jenkins (Arcane Golem for a cheap high damage charge minion)
Bloodmage Thalnos (Kobold Geomancer if you want the spell damage, Loot Hoarder for the card deathrattle))
Mobius and pet octopus
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I hope the control warrior is more numerous at higher ranks cause my druid deck is eating them.
Still painful having to eat losses from zoolock on the way up.
Still painful having to eat losses from zoolock on the way up.
Ugh god yeah
I think it is, and in the link above it is ranked high as power goes. Zoo is plentiful at lower ranks due to the low cost mainly. I actually tweaked my deck to have better odds in that matchup because you are going to get it all the time. This is what I've seen in the past few weeks according to HT:
Granted, there's tons of Handlock, too, but I would say 3/4 of that number is Zoo.
slightconfuse
Banned
Man fuck Druids.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I really want a Prophet Velen.
Prophet Velen+Faceless manipulator+Shadow Formx2=
12 damage hero power for 2 mana.
Prophet Velen+Faceless manipulator+Shadow Formx2=
12 damage hero power for 2 mana.
I dont' know if you're serious or not, but those kinds of combos are terrible to go for. It's like those bad players who try to build up giant lightwells against you as a priest. Um, nice lightwell... here's a silence for that.
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