BotoxAgent
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if Naughty Dog actually pulls off 1080p/60fps. It will be.
(then again if Ryse was on PS4, it's entirely possible that it could do 1080p/60fps as well)
and see also youtube compression
Uncharted 4 Trailer runs in-engine, in-game, in realtime on a single PS4 at 1080p60
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if Naughty Dog actually pulls off 1080p/60fps. It will be.
(then again if Ryse was on PS4, it's entirely possible that it could do 1080p/60fps as well)
and see also youtube compression
Lol, owning something doesn't make you exempt from bias.
Omotesando
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I don't know why people insist on comparing screenshots to determine facial visual prowess, where ultimately expression and facial animation is king in determining which or what is superior.
Sure shaders and skin textures are cool and stuff, but it is all wasted when your character looks like he / she is retarded or is about a second away of taking a huge dumb.
This is basically opinable. Because to have 8 ACE & huma in the hardware is not exactly a tiny upgrade if they do what Cerny claimed.
longdi
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'realtime with 8x SSA and enhanced lighting engine, but runs at 0.1fps and speed up to 30fps video cutscene'
really guys, ND has been doing that with their games, are we back to 2005?
I will gladly eat crow if you can pause and rotate the camera for this trailer on a PS4, or even just having this scene transition straight into the next gameplay level without any sign of loading out a movie file.
really guys, ND has been doing that with their games, are we back to 2005?
I will gladly eat crow if you can pause and rotate the camera for this trailer on a PS4, or even just having this scene transition straight into the next gameplay level without any sign of loading out a movie file.
i'm quoting someone who was specifically talking about image quality. u can't look at those screen shots and say they LOOK significantly better becasue they dont.
There's nothing wrong with bias unless its irrational. Having an option isn't a bad thing.
You can't argue image quality with youtube captures, friend.
Mass Effect
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Ha! So I'm not the only who thought that.
He looks like some amalgamation of Liam Neeson and Jeremy Renner.
BibiMaghoo
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I think this is clearly an in engine movie sequence. I don't believe it will be playable at that fidelity, but the cut scenes in engine will certainly look that good.
Omotesando
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Sure. We all need GT to have been able to play Ryse for a significant time.
velociraptor
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Why use poor quality screen grabs when we've got an actual video. The footage in the video looks better than any video game released thus far. Time will tell how the final product will turn out to be, but that's all we can go by so far.
1080p 60 fps are not enough to be happy?
oh good, then you guys should of quoted the original poster who did that instead of me and said that to him, but nope, for some reason you jump on me
dragonbane
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Beautiful HAHAHAHA
Yeah. Please beg her to just use this word then instead of constantly implying it.
mrqs
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Please, enlight me GAF.
What i don't really get is they saying that it was "in-engine in-game". What does the fuck this mean? 'Cause in-engine is one thing, in-game is other.
Uncharted 3 had in-engine cutscenes. It wasn't in-game, it was in-engine assets, AA maxout, Ansiotropic maxout, highest res textures... This would not run on a PS3. In-engine means that they could DELIVER that level of quality IF they had unlimited hardware, 'cause the engine supports that.
In-game footage means that, if someone give you the controls, the game would actually look EXACTLY like that. Say "In-engine in-game" doesn't make any sense. Just to point out, the Mirror's Edge reveal trailer was IN-ENGINE, the frostbite CAN do that, but that won't be gameplay.
Someone understand it?
What i don't really get is they saying that it was "in-engine in-game". What does the fuck this mean? 'Cause in-engine is one thing, in-game is other.
Uncharted 3 had in-engine cutscenes. It wasn't in-game, it was in-engine assets, AA maxout, Ansiotropic maxout, highest res textures... This would not run on a PS3. In-engine means that they could DELIVER that level of quality IF they had unlimited hardware, 'cause the engine supports that.
In-game footage means that, if someone give you the controls, the game would actually look EXACTLY like that. Say "In-engine in-game" doesn't make any sense. Just to point out, the Mirror's Edge reveal trailer was IN-ENGINE, the frostbite CAN do that, but that won't be gameplay.
Someone understand it?
What you are describing would be "pre-rendering," which Yu already confirmed they are not doing with this game.
in engine usualy means pre rendered cutscenes which naughtydog is known for
Omotesando
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Wait a sec, so there are people actually comparing Ryse with Uncharted 4 now?
LOL
No, wait, let me laugh even harder..
Typical respons.
You don't even have GT.
Audible Phonetics
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She said the PS4 is running this. So by assumption we could assume, its the PS4 hardware making this possible.
Fancy Clown
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With Uncharted 4 Naughty Dog is doing real-time cutscenes as opposed to pre-rendered, so it should go seamlessly from cutscene to gameplay. The gameplay itself will likely look just about as good as this, but obviously without the facial animations done for the cutscene.
cheezcake
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Apart from two things, which are geared towards the same purpose (GPGU capability). One of which is found in the 200x series of GPU's from AMD, and one of which isn't a GPU customisation as much as it is an APU customisation.
Wait a sec, so there are people actually comparing Ryse with Uncharted 4 now?
LOL
No, wait, let me laugh even harder..
That gif cracks me up everytime lol.
Primethius
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I don't understand some of the comments here. It says in the OP that it was real-time on one PS4. Why is there still debate about the issue?
CouchMaster
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Ryse looks incredible in screenshots, I'd give you that.
Omotesando
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RAD are doing real time cutscenes, it is almost a certainty ND will do the same.
Why? Because they can.
The reason is because your agenda here is quite obvious.
Cyborg
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Fanboys! And maybe people are afraid for a downgrade
Yes I do. I've bought and X360 just for Halo 4 and Forza Horizon. I'm not a fanboy, I just can't see how can people compare Ryse to Uncharted 4's teaser. For me, they're not even in the same ballpark.
No, you don't. No one does.
Understanding the conversation that was going on (well before the other that started with said game), doesn't require much to understand either though.
The initial posts, and entire conversation including said game was not a comparison. It was a conversation on how it was believable that UC4 was in fact in-engine in real time due to the expected step up from how well something looked on lesser hardware. People called BS in both situations. I expect ND to deliver just as Crytek did...and on a higher level.
It was a conversation saying that if something of that quality can even happen on hardware like the X1, then I...and others...shouldn't be doubting the PS4's capabilities. In a controlled shot like that, I believe the PS4 is fully capable of rendering the scene. I don't doubt we'll see that scene (or similar one) at the release of UC4.
Digital-Hero
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I enjoyed the look through my playthrough but I had wished for 60fps. Uncharted 4 will probably give me that.
CouchMaster
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She says its not a pre-render, whats the opposite of pre-render?
LiquidNarwhal
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metareferential
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Running that scene is one thing.
Running an entire level with enemies, etc. that looks and runs exactly like that is another matter entirely.
You just compared a 900p30 game to a 1080p60 game.
Bahahaha
Oh I see, you're tying to use shitty YT compressed screen caps to compare image quality.
Bahahaha, these threads never fail to bring out the best.
While that is obviously true, do you not think they have levels of this game? We know they do. We know they're targeting 60fps too. So what is it you think is going on? The game actually has considerably weaker IQ really, but they added more in this cutscene because there's no game simulation running? Why set a standard they can't meet? The game is also probably eighteen months away. It's going to get quite a bit better presumably.
Zatoichi's Cane
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LOL you are comparing a 900p/30 to that? It's sad watching you try to marginalize ND's work... pathetic
Some of you still can't accept the fact that the PS4 is a superb gaming device and more powerful than the xbone...
I think it means the tech is being renderd using the engine in real time as opposed to the tech being rendered with the engine but pre-rendered to keep things light on the hardware.
holy shit, some of you guys are missing the point entirely. SOMEONE else did that and i laughed at it, now you're doing the exact same thing that i did, only this time you're doing it because my "agenda" doesn't jive with yours.
metareferential
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Didn't say that to dismiss their work or to infer that they won't achieve that quality.
Just saying that closed environments and vertical slices can be deceiving, that's all.
Omotesando
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For most people here, there isn't even a conversation, debate or even a same pool of comparison. UC4 trailer showed a new benchmark in detail, range of emotion and persuasion. This is a big big surprise to see it so early in this generation.
gundamkyoukai
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pics are useless when it comes to comparing games in this day and age anyway .
So much of what makes a games look good has to been seen in motion .
So much of what makes a games look good has to been seen in motion .
eddfromtheriver
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If only i knew how to avatar quote...
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