Halo The Master Chief Collection |OT| Halo Never Died, It Was Just Missing In Action
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Duxxy3
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Even though the collection is RIDDLED with bugs, I would still recommend to fans of the halo campaigns. That comes with the caveat that you are going to experience a lot of bugs - you're probably going to skip levels, lose your save, lose your hud and fail to get most achievements.
The collection just comes with SO MUCH CONTENT, that it's tough to ignore even with all the bugs.
The collection just comes with SO MUCH CONTENT, that it's tough to ignore even with all the bugs.
CaptainSlow
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Well, after getting some games in I can officially say I am fucking terrible at Halo online. Dear god those games were not pretty. I think the score on the last game was 34-3 when I had enough and just left.
RSB
Banned
Halo CE is a much better game though.
This seems to happen to everyone and even offline... they hadn't found this?
You got a free Xbox One and the MCC from your friend? I actually don't give a shit about any bugs you have to complain about right now, man.
But I do understand the anguish to be had with games being released that aren't thoroughly tested with QA - it is a trend that is a bad thing, but I would typically give the developers the benefit of the doubt and really peg it more on the publishers pushing for a release date that may force an incomplete product out the door.
Just because he was gifted the game and console doesn't mean he can't complain.
I can't wait for the day when people will finally understand how game developpement actually works and realize that it's almost never QA's fault when a game releases with bugs.
What the FUCK.
I'm so glad I haven't invited my friends over to play yet, because they would be soured by the whole experience.
BuggeryBugz
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Not sure if this is sarcasm or not but I'm still looking forward to playing this game next week when I get it. Call me crazy.
The more and more I attempt to play the game the more i realize how much stuff is completely messed up. Matchmaking issues, fine, I understand.. server issues. But there are things like broken control settings, skipping missions, sceipting issues etc that should have been encountered while bug testing. :/
That's not a excuse, it's a apology.
They already confirmed before that this problem did not show in testing.
This kind thing happens sometimes and it sucks that it happens but they are working on fixing it and that's what matters.
The campaign only gets better after Cairo Station. Especially when using the Arbiter's camo to sneak past enemies.
RSB
Banned
Well, the combat, the AI, and the encounter design are much better in Halo CE. But if you are one of those people that can't look past the visual repetition, then you may actually enjoy Halo 2 more.
Still way inferior to Halo CE though.
Shitty grenade arcs and melees, and weapons I loved in Halo 1 being nerfed for the sake of dual-wielding.
Honestly I feel like Halo 4 has the best balance when it comes to guns. Funny thing is that as much as people hate on the game when I had those 16 player matches going it was the funnest matches we had that night.
Disagree on all fronts, especially the AI part (aside from the Elites). Halo 2 AI were simply far more dangerous than their CE counterparts; especially the Grunts and non-sniper Jackals who received mobility buffs. Hunters are more dangerous in Halo 2, as are Jackals since both of their AIs are less exploitable.
Encounter design in CE involves a variety of repetitive rooms filled with soldiers. There's no coordination between the troops as each AI tends to act more independently. This is less of a problem in Halo 2 but it is only really fixed in Reach.
Friendly AI in Halo 2 OG was an order of magnitude better as well. However the MCC version is apparently dumbed down for some reason.
I don't play Halo for multiplayer, so the servers being fucked don't bother me. What bothers me is I bought this because 343 advertised a 60fps Halo experience. What I'm actually getting is far less than that too often, not to mention all the fucking bugs that are making single player campaign a less-than-fun experience. I'm real close to contacting support and getting a refund for my digital purchase. I can understand some online server issues, but to fuck up the easily tested single player stuff too? GTFO.
The campaign, ui and framerate issues didn't show up in "testing"? I highly doubt it.
rokkerkory
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Just bad design and testing period
speaking of user interface...
theres a UI stuck behind my UI
to be fair the game of team slayer on turf was extremely fun even if it was P2P
Well you can't blame people for an industry that shrouds itself in mystery.
There are definitely things that aren't found until you having hundreds of thousands to millions of people playing a game. Personally I haven't even had any of these campaign issues so who knows.
Framerate is kind of a touchy subject when you think about what happened with some of these games.
Halo CE: Developed on Xbox, ported to PC, remastered for Xbox 360 and ported to Xbox One while running the original graphical engine at the same time.
Halo 2: Developed on Xbox, remastered for Xbox One while running the original graphical and audio engine at the same time.
Halo 3: Developed on Xbox 360 and ported to Xbox One with a new lighting engine.
Halo 4: Developed on Xbox 360 and ported to Xbox One with a new lighting engine.
Comes down to the plain honest truth that a game not directly developed for a console is not going to run perfectly smooth on it. I'm sure they will continue to release updates to help smooth out the framerate in these games and fix the campaign and UI.
This game is easily bigger than most games if not all games this generation or last generation. There was bound to be bugs found when huge amounts of people started playing it, it always happens.
PachinkoChampBruh
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hmm forge matchmaking? might as well at this point, lol!
Normally I'm not a fan of the whining, bitching or vitriol that is aimed at games and the devs who make them. A lot of the time it's totally unnecessary and misguided. But you know what? Fuck that.
People have every right to be pissed and impatient. Far too long and far too many times games have been released poorly tested, lacking polish or even unfinished. It's unacceptable. Expecting my $60+ investment to fulfill its basic, advertised functionality out of the box isn't asking for much and isn't having a sense of entitlement. I shouldn't have to hope and pray shit works and then wait days or weeks to see if it MIGHT work later on. Something as big as fucking HALO, with the collaboration of at least SEVEN studios (if not more), with hundreds of people involved, with the backing of goddamn MICROSOFT, should damn well work with very little incident. Consumers should neither have to settle nor allow this to become the norm. So I'm glad people are mad. I encourage people to talk shit and express their outrage. Tell 343, MS, all those involved in the production of this game and everyone in the industry that this isn't okay.
Manners and decorum go out the fucking window at this point. This is business. You have our money. You fucked up. We were nice enough to buy your game in the first place. We don't owe you a anything else at this point. So fix it. Get it done and make sure it doesn't happen again.
People have every right to be pissed and impatient. Far too long and far too many times games have been released poorly tested, lacking polish or even unfinished. It's unacceptable. Expecting my $60+ investment to fulfill its basic, advertised functionality out of the box isn't asking for much and isn't having a sense of entitlement. I shouldn't have to hope and pray shit works and then wait days or weeks to see if it MIGHT work later on. Something as big as fucking HALO, with the collaboration of at least SEVEN studios (if not more), with hundreds of people involved, with the backing of goddamn MICROSOFT, should damn well work with very little incident. Consumers should neither have to settle nor allow this to become the norm. So I'm glad people are mad. I encourage people to talk shit and express their outrage. Tell 343, MS, all those involved in the production of this game and everyone in the industry that this isn't okay.
Manners and decorum go out the fucking window at this point. This is business. You have our money. You fucked up. We were nice enough to buy your game in the first place. We don't owe you a anything else at this point. So fix it. Get it done and make sure it doesn't happen again.
Silphonica
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Altered Juice
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man all people vote for in the btb playlist is halo 3 and halo 4. i want to play CE on blood gulch dammit!
SatansReverence
Hipster Princess
No problems show up in testing when you don't test...
It's simple really. QA are there to report the issues. The devs are there to fix them. In between the two you got a Producer/Management team that decides which of the bugs found by the QA that gets fixed before the game is shipped.
It's all about money, risk and time. You get to a point in a project when the management will decide to not fix some of the issues because you are either out of time, out of money or because fixing that issue could cause 10 other bugs to appears. Most of the time it's a mix of those three factors.
Basically what I'm saying is that while the QA will obviously miss some bugs from time to time, the vast majority of any issues reported by players on the retail games were actually flagged by QA long before release and simply not fixed.
Sigh... You do realize that there's a huge difference between having a team of 100 or so testers testing a game for a couple of months and 1+ millions users in the first week playing a game right? No matter how good the QA departement is, some situations are just impossible to see or reproduce before the game goes live.
I was actually watching your LASO stream this morning. That sucks
There's no excuse for this.
Except for the fact that there are so many bugs that occur so frequently. There is a .0001% chance that they didn't come across the bugs. When you look at the amount of studios that were working on this, it's no surprise at all. I have no idea why you're defending this. "They wanted it out for the holidays" is no excuse. If they wanted it out by the holidays, they should have started development earlier or paid for more work time.
Um it's pretty normal for there to be bugs that only show up when you have way more people playing a game.
I mean honestly, you have 4 games(two of which running two graphical engines) that can be played back to back. I've never seen another game do this... ever. This game needed much more time in the oven but they didn't want to miss the holidays.
Twin Tails
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BR is all H2 mp.
I've come across a single bug while playing the game, I guess I'm just a lucky one.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
To be fair, you probably have more time here defending a developer than playing the game they fucked up.
Pretty much sums it up. Pretty astounding after Gears 2 this is still a thing.
Iorv3th
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As many times as they would have played the game for QA purposes you think some of these problems would have shown up on a few of them. I really doubt these single player bugs only started popping up once the game was in the publics hands.
See my previous post.
Head.spawn
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So... umm... Halo CE Anniversary is gross. The lighting is so static and everything is super over-saturated. I'm honestly spending most of my time in old-school mode. Also, the upgrade job isn't 1:1 with all of the objects on the level; so sometimes I'm shooting or throwing a grenade and it is hitting an "invisible" wall, until I switch and realize there is indeed a wall there. Night-vision is completely useless because of how busted the lighting is, everything just becomes an overly bright washed out green and you can't make anything out... similar to if you were to use on in the day-time.
I just tried Silent Cartographer in Anniversary mode, and it feels like the framerate is farting around 20fps or so in the beginning. Once again, switched back to OG mode, I think I'll just stick with that unless they update the framerate or something.
I just tried Silent Cartographer in Anniversary mode, and it feels like the framerate is farting around 20fps or so in the beginning. Once again, switched back to OG mode, I think I'll just stick with that unless they update the framerate or something.
Lady Siara
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I'm starting to miss the goofy assault rifle battles now. I like the battle rifle a lot but it feels like that's all I'm using most of the time. Plus, I've barely melee'd anyone to death...in Halo!
Iorv3th
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I have and that's understandable.
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