FINAL FANTASY XV - Niflheim Base Battle Footage

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Koutsoubas

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Which makes me think what the trigger buttons are gonna be set to, maybe something we don't know yet? Lock-on is probably still R1, I guess L1 or one of the triggers can be party attacks. I wonder what they did with abilities.

I kinda don't like magic having to take up one of the weapon slots, but if they plan for us to rarely use it I guess there's no need to have a button solely for it.



300 posts plus 3 months here.

Thank you good sir! I guess grind applies to everything!
 

Mediking

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Dont start this mediking lol last time we all got carried away and kagari was about to unleash wraith

Hahaha! But Noctis design really has changed over the years. He's changed in clothing and other subtle ways. Sometimes his hair looks exactly like Sasuke's and other times his hair looks like his own. Here is his best design... This right here is what I wanna see in cutscenes and gameplay:
noctis__japanese_by_journei-d38t58n.png

noctis_x_stella_by_noctella1427-d494sg9.jpg

Noctis has been looking like this lately... Its still a good design. It's just his face is softer.
Impresiones-Final-Fantasy-XV-Areajugones-23.jpg

549e14a0_Final%20Fantasy%20XV%20Noctis%20Car%20Meme.jpg
 

Astral Dog

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Hahaha! But Noctis design really has changed over the years. He's changed in clothing and other subtle ways. Sometimes his hair looks exactly like Sasuke's and other times his hair looks like his own. Here is his best design... This right here is what I wanna see in cutscenes and gameplay:
noctis__japanese_by_journei-d38t58n.png

noctis_x_stella_by_noctella1427-d494sg9.jpg

Noctis has been looking like this lately... Its still a good design. It's just his face is softer.
Impresiones-Final-Fantasy-XV-Areajugones-23.jpg

549e14a0_Final%20Fantasy%20XV%20Noctis%20Car%20Meme.jpg

He looks better now, the old one is too anime
 

sn00zer

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Is there any updated breakdown of the current battle system? Hype was successfully taken out back and executed after the "hold the button to combo" and the "hold the button to dodge" debacle.
 

chozen

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Is there any updated breakdown of the current battle system? Hype was successfully taken out back and executed after the "hold the button to combo" and the "hold the button to dodge" debacle.

From what I hear it sounds like there will be two type of battle systems one Automatic and one Manual and we will hear more about that in March.

Hopefully the automatic is for casuals with the hold button for attack and manual is more for the advanced players who like the 1 to 1 presses

Personally I didn't like the auto dodge at first after hearing it, but after playing with it a lot in the demo I like it a lot.
 

xion4360

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I'm sure I read Luminous is be able to directly port CG Models to in game.

yes, but they are not going to port character models...just smaller assets like say, a table or chair.. something simpler. they have said that kind of thing is possible but we dont really have clear examples.

I know, but they actually did that in Type-0.

Type-0 HD? nothing was ported in from CG. They created new models but they dont come from CG, not even from the pre-recorded scenes as the in game models are better than even those.
 
yes, but they are not going to port character models...just smaller assets like say, a table or chair.. something simpler. they have said that kind of thing is possible but we dont really have clear examples.



Type-0 HD? nothing was ported in from CG. They created new models but they dont come from CG, not even from the pre-rendered scenes as the in game models are better than even those.

Don't you think this is just the CG model with some minor downgrades?

Final-Fantasy-Type-0-HD-3.jpg
 

benzy

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they are showing you how good the in-engine models are, that doesnt mean they have the same source.

— Have the main character models been replaced with the original version’s pre-rendered cutscene models?

Tabata: We’ve adapted the models we used in the PSP version’s cutscenes to be used as the playable models this time. Of course, we’ve more or less regulated them though. We followed a work flow established for converting the high end CG to real time CG being used for FFXV, so we used that same know-how for Type-0 as well.

We’ve applied the next-gen technology and made the characters playable in movie quality graphics, so I think that you can see it’s closer in quality to a new game developed for PS4/Xbox One.


http://gematsu.com/2014/09/dengeki-final-fantasy-xv-type-0-hd-tgs-2014-interview#Ttri5WPz1FTU9tCm.99
 

chozen

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— Have the main character models been replaced with the original version’s pre-rendered cutscene models?

Tabata: We’ve adapted the models we used in the PSP version’s cutscenes to be used as the playable models this time. Of course, we’ve more or less regulated them though. We followed a work flow established for converting the high end CG to real time CG being used for FFXV, so we used that same know-how for Type-0 as well.

We’ve applied the next-gen technology and made the characters playable in movie quality graphics, so I think that you can see it’s closer in quality to a new game developed for PS4/Xbox One.


http://gematsu.com/2014/09/dengeki-final-fantasy-xv-type-0-hd-tgs-2014-interview#Ttri5WPz1FTU9tCm.99

There we go yeah I knew I read that somewhere, Luminous is real next gen my sons.
 

xion4360

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oh stop its guys! having very good in-engine models doesnt mean they are ported in from CG.. they still have to be re-created for the game engine as character models visual works makes are too good for the game engine to handle.

They take the CG model as a base and build it in-engine as closely as possible.

Clearly? I mean, it's not "clearly"

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I dont know what you are getting at. This is a CG model

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There we go yeah I knew I read that somewhere, Luminous is real next gen my sons.

I know about this. visual works started the luminous engine and made it easy to port the assets they create for CG to the engine.. but they dont say they are using CG character models in-game. they have to be based on the models not directly ported as they are very detailed.
 
oh stop its guys! having very good in-engine models doesnt mean they are ported in from CG.. they still have to be re-created for the game engine as character models visual works makes are too good for the game engine to handle.

They take the CG model as a base and build it in-engine as closely as possible.



I dont know what you are getting at. This is a CG model

4f8b8347_Final-Fantasy-Type-0-Ace-Character-Render-Artwork-2.png

Ingame:

FF_Type-0_PS4_graphics.png


Sorry, couldn't find a bigger image of the same character =p

Edit:

ff_type_0_hd_pc____ace_by_existingbox9-d97fjsg.png
 

chozen

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oh stop its guys! having very good in-engine models doesnt mean they are ported in from CG.. they still have to be re-created for the game engine as character models visual works makes are too good for the game engine to handle.

They take the CG model as a base and build it in-engine as closely as possible.

Of course it doesn't have the full visual fidelity of the CG version, but when they port it from CG to real time it has all the details/exact structure and it adapts to in game graphics.
 

xion4360

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Ingame:

FF_Type-0_PS4_graphics.png


Sorry, couldn't find a bigger image of the same character =p

Edit:

ff_type_0_hd_pc____ace_by_existingbox9-d97fjsg.png


its based on the CG model.. it isnt the same model.. thats what im trying to say.. same deal with FFXV they are a lot closer because FFXV is a current gen title on luminous engine and therefor can be a lot closer
 

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its based on the CG model.. it isnt the same model.. thats what im trying to say.. same deal with FFXV they are a lot closer because FFXV is a current gen title on luminous engine and therefor can be a lot closer

Nobody said they are the same quality, but it is indeed the same model ported into Luminous with adjustment. It is not a game engine model made from scratch like the old days.
 

Gbraga

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Hahaha! But Noctis design really has changed over the years. He's changed in clothing and other subtle ways. Sometimes his hair looks exactly like Sasuke's and other times his hair looks like his own. Here is his best design... This right here is what I wanna see in cutscenes and gameplay:
noctis__japanese_by_journei-d38t58n.png

noctis_x_stella_by_noctella1427-d494sg9.jpg

Noctis has been looking like this lately... Its still a good design. It's just his face is softer.
Impresiones-Final-Fantasy-XV-Areajugones-23.jpg

549e14a0_Final%20Fantasy%20XV%20Noctis%20Car%20Meme.jpg

I love that look as well, but I feel like it really fits the tone of that particular scene. It looks "darker", and wouldn't really fit the "bros on a roadtrip" part of the story the Duscae screenshots come from.

I'm still expecting him to look closer to that when all of the serious shit goes down. You can already see something closer to it in the Dawn 2.0 trailer.
 

xion4360

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That was actually what I meant too. A 1:1 model transfer from CG to ingame would be a mess for the performance.

Oh were not done buddy ;P

You really think the type-0 models are only a "minor" downgrade from a CG counterpart?

they are the same ...shape...basically.. but thats about all they have in common. XD
 
Oh were not done buddy ;P

You really think the type-0 models are only a "minor" downgrade from a CG counterpart?

they are the same ...shape...basically.. but thats about all they have in common. XD

It seens that they used the same model but downgraded. What I mean is, I don't believe they created a new model and made it look like the CG one.
 

xion4360

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It seens that they used the same model but downgraded. What I mean is, I don't believe they created a new model and made it look like the CG one.

heavy downgrade.. like basically stripped 4 or 5 layers off it! but I actually think they are pretty nice for what the game is.
 

xion4360

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I'm not sure about his personality (as I've seen very little of it) but I really like his design

I like noctis' design too, but personally ive had to let the hair grow on me.. when I first saw him I though his hair was way too messy...but now I kind of get it.. its like what sasuke's hair would look like if it was drawn very realistically.

My favorite are Lighting and Squall.
 
Going back to the whole "press square to win," I seriously doubt I'm the only one mashing buttons in episode duscae despite the fact?
I'm a man who can only handle a few games at a time, and for the past year it's been me playing Smash4 and Bloodborne almost exclusively. I still have absolutely no problem with how the game's working. Things like the jabs on my smash4 mains Rosalina and Mac can work by leaving the A button pressed, though it's not something I would necessarily apply to FFXV unless it feels like something from Little Mac's jab. In episode duscae I mashed my buttons, and it felt GOOD.

The updated battle systems looks even better, things like this I don't even need to get over to be honest.
 

Squalor

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Goddamn, there are absolutely no gameplay worries. That's for certain.

I hope the characters and plot can make it worthwhile.
 

xion4360

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One part of the story synopsis confuses me tho...

Noctis is supposedly off to Tenebrae to formalize his marriage to Luna when Lucis is attacked...but is Luna supposed to be in Tenebrae or in Lucis? because the art they showed seem to suggest Luna was is Lucis when it was attacked.

Bit weird.. maybe the artwork is just misleading or Luna is supposed to be in Tenebrae, but then why would people think she was dead.
 

benzy

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One part of the story synopsis confuses me tho...

Noctis is supposedly off to Tenebrae to formalize his marriage to Luna when Luics is attacked...but is Luna supposed to be in Tenebrae or in Lucis? because the art they showed seem to suggest Luna was is Lucis when it was attacked.

Bit weird.. maybe the artwork is just misleading or Luna is supposed to be in Tenebrae, but then why would people think she was dead.

The marriage is supposed to be in Altissia. I'm guessing Luna was in Lucis to get the ring before making her way to Altissia.
 
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