KeyChainDude
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This is very, very, VERY cool. I never knew the origin of the "summon a bunch of ghost weapons" stuff. Now I'm even more excited about the story!
FINAL FANTASY XV - Niflheim Base Battle Footage
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This is very, very, VERY cool. I never knew the origin of the "summon a bunch of ghost weapons" stuff. Now I'm even more excited about the story!
Psychological Intellect
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is the combat still one button hold to attack? because that would be supremely disappointing fi those jumps and aerial attacks aren't manual.
Blackleg-sanji1
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You press O to jump,X to warp,L1 to dodge,the d pad seems to be for weapon switching. Sqaure is to attack yes, but no the combat isn't a simple hold button to win
KeyChainDude
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They changed the combat significantly since Episode Duscae to make it a bit more complex, then I don't think so. We need to wait on more information about the "manual battle mode" they talked about.
Tabata talked about his interest in Steam when asked about a PC version. Doubt it'll release alongside the console versions though.
I wonder if they can get the grass up to the quality that was shown in 2014 on consoles or even on a hypothetical PC version.
The trailer reminds me, it's funny watching that thing again and hearing Noctis saying "Almost there." Yeah right.
Dark_castle
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He didn't say 'to win' though. In that case, it still is holding button to attack in the latest footage, which is unfortunate.
nailbombxx
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I really can't believe how good this game looks
Blackleg-sanji1
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But thats how most games are i never got the complaint maybe someone can explain it to me .
Cod-hold R2 to "attack"
Tales of Hold press x to attack
Driveclub hold R2 to drive lol
I dont get the complain whats different from mashing the button to holding it? If it was press square to attack it would be called a button masher like a few people do to kh
It looks like Leviathan on top and Bahamut on the bottom of that logo. I wonder if that means they will be opposing forces instead of what the myth image which looks like they are lovers or close to one another.
DrROBschiz
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Im more concerned with the rubber band effect of attacks when you are locked on
Combined with teh camera in the demo I felt i had so little control over the character and attacks
Didnt help that I also didnt know when to time strikes between weapn switches since its dependent on shit like enemy HP and such
The new changes seem to address most of those concern though is still looks like the MC is flying around all over the place with the attacks
Blackleg-sanji1
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Yea the camera looks to be much better in that video i hope thats the case. All valid concerns just never understand the problem with the hold square to attack.
AuthenticM
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Can Unreal Engine 4 achieve lighting this good? Because if yes, then I hope Square completely ditches Luminous after this game. They need to be productive again.
Mediking
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Is the Luminous Engine really a problem??? I think the game looks amazing. And I thought UE4 wasn't a answer for everything? I'm not attacking you, by the way.
I prefer it to mashing a button, for sure.
NoctisVsStar
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DrROBschiz
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Control
People like timing their attacks and manipulating 3D space in battles
If you just going to sting attacks along why make it an action rpg?
Blackleg-sanji1
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Yup me too people call out kh on thr mashing all the time so they cant win either way
Death Penalty
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It's mostly for a feeling of feedback. The closer attacks are to your actual button presses and the more control you have over the blows the more satisfying it is to execute those attacks. It's why I prefer Kingdom Hearts' "mashing" to Duscae's holding, because you're more involved with strikes, specific combos and canceling your attacks. The reason you can just mash in Kingdom Hearts is more related to difficulty than lack of tight control.
LouisaFerre
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I'd imagine there's a setback just on the basis of them being the only company using it, so they're responsible for training the team(and any devs they outsource to) working on the game. Of course, it might not be that big of a deal, but the reason they switched KH3 over is that they had to combine the Luminous Development team into the FFXV team to speed up development, so Osaka team was essentially on their own. UE4 is already common enough and has enough resources/documentation available that they don't really have to worry as much about having those people available.
I will never forget when I first saw that . The music and the words...so much chills.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Now see think you for explaining that too me.
Heh, i legitly shed a tear.
NoctisVsStar
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Not much longer..now we patiently wait til March.
Mediking
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Isn't that a old model for Noctis? He literally looks Sasuke in that gif. I thought his hair looked way different than the gif.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Dont start this mediking lol last time we all got carried away and kagari was about to unleash wraith
I believe that Tabata actually addressed this in the ATR. I think he said that technically they are pretty similar with lighting.
The Last One
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Yep, that was really nice and actually good for KH III, VII Remake and DQ XI.
Relaxed Muscle
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I think UE4 uses Enlighten, also UE4 integrates (or is gonna integrate) Lionhead new GI lighting solution.
The point is UE4 is modular enough that a company can implement it's own lighting solution if they want. So SE could take Luminous lighting solution and put it on UE4.
The question wasn't really if Luminous was pretty enough. It was if UE4 could match its visuals, that Square should switch to it in the future as it's much better supported.
As for UE4, yes it can match Luminous in visuals. Tabata even said that as far as the lighting was concerned, it was basically the same as what UE4 offers. The difference that Luminous was giving them was in post processing.
Hypothetically, if there was a compelling reason for them to go to UE4, they could task their engine programmers with porting over tools they developed in-house that were superior to the comparable tools built in to UE4.(ie. if they hate UE4's particle system or animation system, they could port over their in house equivalent tools) That's what happened with KH3 when it moved to UE4 when it came to their "kingdom shader"(if that's still a thing).
The real question is would future titles benefit from working with UE4 as it's likely a lot easier to develop with, or will Luminous be good enough now after they used FFXV to work through the growing pains?
Checked if they finally added "legitly" to the dictionary.
Urban dictionary doesn't think so lol.
I'm right with you though.
It really has been a long time coming. First FF I'm excited to play since X(!).
This time for realz!
Be wary that the battle system in duscae (and the game in general) is drastically different from what's shown here and that will be in the final product.
Had no idea lol,
i'll cover behind the fact that english isn't my first language
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i'm not picky, i just like production values so gimme some good light and animations
The Last One
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I'm so excited for March. They must detail the ring magic, please!!!
Koutsoubas
Member
Deus-Ex and the FFXV! This Fall is going to be absolutely epic!
I hope you can alter the controls/there are multiple sets. L1 to warp and X to dodge makes waaaaay more sense.
Those changed. Square is dodge now, and I think triangle is warp. Circle is attack and X is jump.
Koutsoubas
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I would agree 100% The X button must stay inside the Battle-Engagement scheme. Warping-out makes more sense in a more ''distant'' button.
I dont know if that makes any sesne to you guys, but to me feels really natural
rayman1900
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If it's not the case, you could always change the button controls inside the console's settings for PS4 ?
Go_Ly_Dow
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If any members of XVGAF are active on twitter then it would be nice to connect. Only just joined.
https://twitter.com/MNight20
https://twitter.com/MNight20
Psycho_Mantis
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Sasuke Noctis was best Noctis ;__;
About the control scheme, i'm curious to see where Abilities are, since they wenren't even shown on the UI.
Don't worry
XVGAF sounds so good ;_;
We need T-shirts
I had no malicious intent when I replied to your post. I hope you didn't take it the wrong way.
My first language is Farsi, then German and third would be English
Don't worry
If any members of XVGAF are active on twitter then it would be nice to connect. Only just joined.
https://twitter.com/MNight20
XVGAF sounds so good ;_;
We need T-shirts
I think mapping the most basic skills to the face buttons is the most obvious thing to do. Jump, Dodge, Warp, and Attack all make sense to me.
Koutsoubas
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I completely agree, mapping is a very foundamental action. Should be included!
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Which makes me think what the trigger buttons are gonna be set to, maybe something we don't know yet? Lock-on is probably still R1, I guess L1 or one of the triggers can be party attacks. I wonder what they did with abilities.
I kinda don't like magic having to take up one of the weapon slots, but if they plan for us to rarely use it I guess there's no need to have a button solely for it.
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