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that scene where the ISB officers discuss what they're going to do with the captured pilot was perfect.

at first I expected them to show some scene of the capture or the interrogation but it actually was so perfect that they didn't. The ISB contemplating that they couldn't let him go free but they also couldn't hold him, so they settle on murdering him and staging it to look like a mechanical failure as if it were a 2 o'clock business meeting. Calculated and cavalier about their actions and discarding of their enemies at a whim.
 
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Syril has a crush. He's into being treated like garbage thanks to his warped relationship with his mother. Oof.

Pretty intense torture scene, effective use of what isn't shown to the audience directly along with seeing the aftermath in Bix's eyes.

A lot of hubris involved with repopulating the end of term prisoners, but they think they can get away with it.
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Was he flirting? I couldn't tell, honestly. I was confused with that scene. Does want ass or an imperial job? Probably both.
ADiTAR said:
I think this is stellar. It's really the best thing I've watched this year.

It feels fresh, the universe is interesting, the characters all have a clear defined objective, and there's a Jewish lovable and unbearable mom. Stellar.
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I have seen this sentiment in both forums I visit on this show. The mother is not a "hit" with me as other people seem to be responding to her. I wonder are the people jewish that she hits with, and maybe thats it? A point of familiarity?
 
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Didn't have much time the last two weeks (thank you, Persona…), but just watched the last two episodes.

Did you notice the imagery when they tortured the girl? The closing of the door, the camera tilting to the ground and the officer walking by? NICE reference!
 
Yerd said:
I have seen this sentiment in both forums I visit on this show. The mother is not a "hit" with me as other people seem to be responding to her. I wonder are the people jewish that she hits with, and maybe thats it? A point of familiarity?
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I am Jewish so it def feels familiar, and it's also how Jewish moms are usually portrayed in media but here it's taken to a bit of extreme.
 
I can't help but sympathize with Karn even tho the audience is meant to cringe at him/resent him. His devotion to the Empire is rooted in not just ideology but it seems also a personality disorder? Certainly a dysfunctional home. When he gets his inevitable bad ending, I can take at least some solace that NOBODY in this show except maybe Mon Mothma gets a good ending.

The fat security guard in the first 3 eps was his only friend :(
 
Count me in on "this is the best Star Wars has been for decades"

The whole thing just feels like it's on a different level of competence than we've seen in Star Wars since like ESB. The subject matter of what it's like to live under the boots of space nazis actually feels like it's being taken seriously. And the empire is shown to be ruthless and competent, no bullshit comic relief villains like Hux or Grievous. Even the true believer boy who seems like almost a trope is fleshed out in a way that he seems believable.

Kinda crazy the wild swings in quality this franchise has
 
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AJUMP23 said:
I like how his mother is insufferable to him, and so disappointed in most of his life.
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I liked how quickly he told her "I got promoted" after she started droning on about everything she's done to get him this job. I think he left her to make his own way in the universe and Andor took that from him. Now that he's gotten promoted, he can taste self-sufficiency again and not being beholden to her. It seems to me his dogmatic pursuit of control and order is in response to his overbearing upbringing, where he likely had little say or control.

He's one of my favorite characters introduced in Star Wars. I'm praying they don't fuck his character up - I want to see him rise in the Empire so bad. A genuine character arc on the Empire side is so rare in this franchise and I feel like this is the last opportunity we'll have to see something like this.
 
PaddyOCanager said:
I liked how quickly he told her "I got promoted" after she started droning on about everything she's done to get him this job. I think he left her to make his own way in the universe and Andor took that from him. Now that he's gotten promoted, he can taste self-sufficiency again and not being beholden to her. It seems to me his dogmatic pursuit of control and order is in response to his overbearing upbringing, where he likely had little say or control.

He's one of my favorite characters introduced in Star Wars. I'm praying they don't fuck his character up - I want to see him rise in the Empire so bad. A genuine character arc on the Empire side is so rare in this franchise and I feel like this is the last opportunity we'll have to see something like this.
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He is going to die on the first Death Star. Just a guess.
 
AJUMP23 said:
He is going to die on the first Death Star. Just a guess.
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Isn't this series only going up to Rogue One? I suppose it could end with him getting assigned to the Death Star, but an offscreen "assumed" death would be a really shitty thing to do to the character imo.
 
PaddyOCanager said:
Isn't this series only going up to Rogue One? I suppose it could end with him getting assigned to the Death Star, but an offscreen "assumed" death would be a really shitty thing to do to the character imo.
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Thought I read somewhere this series will end moments before Rogue One begins.
 
Andy Serkis is short and nearing 60 but looks like he could beat the shit out of anyone else in the show lol

 
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What an episode. Still hard to believe we are getting this good show from Disney. From beginning to the end this episode delivered. Stellan Skarsgård and Andy Serkis shined.
And that turn of events at the end. Man what a twist of fate for Serkis.
 
This is so well made, nobody has plot armor (accept of course who we know will survive). The music, the direction, the acting. It's so good.

The line "A drop of discomfort may be the price of doing business". THIS IS HOW YOU WRITE A SHOW PPL!
 
Andor keeps getting better. Best SW since ESB. Andy Serkis and Stellan Skarsgard absolutely crushing it this ep. Diego Luna keeps it subdued, but his quiet resolve is a welcome change of pace for a modern protagonist.
 
ADiTAR said:
This is so well made, nobody has plot armor (accept of course who we know will survive). The music, the direction, the acting. It's so good.

The line "A drop of discomfort may be the price of doing business". THIS IS HOW YOU WRITE A SHOW PPL!
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You could feel her frustration and fear as he was walking out. So well done.
 
What a great series. Loved every episode from start to finish. This series felt a bit grittier than other Disney Star Wars shows!
 
So after this episode, are we to assume that....

Andy Serkis's character never gets out and dies there? Kind of lame to have him go along with Andor's big plan, get to the end, realize he'd have to jump in the water, tell Andor he can't swim and then he just leaves him there anyways.....
 
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I'm going to go out on a limb here and say this is the best star wars product to date. Better than any of the original movies. It's so good that you could have made this show as a stand alone sci-fi series without the empire and it would still be fantastic.

The scene at the end with the 2 chatting about their sacrifices was one of the best scenes of the series.
The other man I know has shown up at least once before, but I didn't take note. I will need to see his scenes again with this new revelation.
 
sloppyjoe_gamer said:
So after this episode, are we to assume that....

Andy Serkis's character never gets out and dies there? Kind of lame to have him go along with Andor's big plan, get to the end, realize he'd have to jump in the water, tell Andor he can't swim and then he just leaves him there anyways.....
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Or he was re-captured by the empire and is about to be tortured and shit.

We'll find out next week I'm sure.
 
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SegaManAU said:
What a great series. Loved every episode from start to finish. This series felt a bit grittier than other Disney Star Wars shows!
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It ain't over yet :) Still 2 more episodes left not to mention a second 12-episode season in 2024.
 
This was a 10 out of 10. I feel I could write an essay on how slick this show is, there are so many little details and conversations that build into each other.

And the sets keep being outstanding. A lot of attention to little things, like the aliens towards the end of the episode, the ones in the alley. You see them for 1 second, and they didn't need to be there, but they put them there because it gives it that little extra "umpf". I love this. For me, this is cruising past The Mandalorian, pretty easily, even though I like that show too.
 
Yerd said:
The other man I know has shown up at least once before, but I didn't take note. I will need to see his scenes again with this new revelation.
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This guy? he's an Imperial officer. He's usually sitting around that big round table where they do the debriefings.

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I keep seeing people losing their minds over this show, but all I keep thinking is it's a prequel to a movie where the only people I remember are Empire antagonists and Donnie Yen.

Sell it to me. Why should I watch a show about the people I found least memorable? What am I missing?

I honestly want people to change my mind here, people seem to love this show.
 
Soodanim said:
I keep seeing people losing their minds over this show, but all I keep thinking is it's a prequel to a movie where the only people I remember are Empire antagonists and Donnie Yen.

Sell it to me. Why should I watch a show about the people I found least memorable? What am I missing?

I honestly want people to change my mind here, people seem to love this show.
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I liked Rogue One and I found the story interesting, and even tho we didn't see it, it did feel like it had back story to it all (lots of references).

This show is not connected to it or Star Wars stories in any way. It's a stand alone. And the main reason to watch is the writing, which is sharp, knows how to do a build up, how to build a character, and to surprise. All of that in cinematography that makes Star Wars feel more real than anything done after the OG trilogy. The cherry is the music which ranges from electro to classical beautifully.

I suggest giving the first 3 ep a try, it's around 1.5hrs total. But you have to watch them all, first two are build ups, and I think people are used to TikTok storytelling.
 
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ADiTAR said:
I liked Rogue One and I found the story interesting, and even tho we didn't see it, it did feel like it had back story to it all (lots of references).

This show is not connected to it or Star Wars stories in any way. It's a stand alone. And the main reason to watch is the writing, which is sharp, knows how to do a build up, how to build a character, and to surprise. All of that in cinematography that makes Star Wars feel more real than anything done after the OG trilogy. The cherry is the music which ranges from electro to classical beautifully.

I suggest giving the first 3 ep a try, it's around 1.5hrs total. But you have to watch them all, first two are build ups, and I think people are used to TikTok storytelling.
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Thank you, I'm now a lot more interested. I will give it a shot
 
Soodanim said:
Why should I watch a show about the people I found least memorable? What am I missing?
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Because characters are only as good as the people who write them, and how the show/film portrays them. Sometimes you find the right director and the right producer at the right moment in time, and something clicks. With Andor, things fucking click.

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Bragr said:
Because characters are only as good as the people who write them, and how the show/film portrays them. Sometimes you find the right director and the right producer at the right moment in time, and something clicks. With Andor, things fucking click.

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Besmirching the great name of Adam West and his unbeatable and iconic portrayal of the caped crusader was a risky move, but it worked. I appreciate it
 
ADiTAR said:
I liked Rogue One and I found the story interesting, and even tho we didn't see it, it did feel like it had back story to it all (lots of references).

This show is not connected to it or Star Wars stories in any way. It's a stand alone.
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Wait wut…?

Another excellent episode. This show really does fire on all cylinders and gives me hope for future Star Wars which might emulate it….a fool's hope perhaps but hope nonetheless. At the very least we're getting the full story with season 2 underway
 
Yerd said:
The scene at the end with the 2 chatting about their sacrifices was one of the best scenes of the series.
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During that scene I thought "Man, why couldn't they hire these writers for Rings of Power?"

I really dig the 3 episode arcs, because we start to care about the people. We cared about every member of Andors prison team.
 
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