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[saintjules]

Quicker than Draugoth and adamsapple I see

 

[Gaiff]

Quicker than Draugoth and adamsapple I see

I post faster than my shadow.

 

[solidus12]

adamsapple is too busy enjoying Death Stranding on his Xbox.

 

[Draugoth]

Quicker than Draugoth and adamsapple I see

There was plenty of PS5 Pro Analysis of this game and i didn't want to make another post on it

 

[XXL]

Hopefully the PC version doesn't have tons of issues like most PC games that aren't made by 3 people.

 

[adamsapple]

There was plenty of PS5 Pro Analysis of this game and i didn't want to make another post on it

Might make the topic when this gets the Xbox port, tho.

 

[M1chl]

PC wins as it seems, which isn't all that interesting. However nice boost from PS5 with new RT features for free

 

[XXL]

PC wins as it seems, which isn't all that interesting. However nice boost from PS5 with new RT features for free

Most PCs are weaker than PS5 nevermind PS5 Pro.

 

[Gaiff]

Hopefully the PC version doesn't have tons of issues like most PC games that aren't made by 3 people.

Maybe try subtlety with the trolling?

PC wins as it seems, which isn't all that interesting. However nice boost from PS5 with new RT features for free

 

[XXL]

Maybe try subtlety with the trolling?

I was told we can bring anything in to every thread. I'm just doing the same.

 

[Lucifers Beard]

Going to try put fidelity pro with the uncapped frame rate tonight. Performance pro looked good but the extra fidelity looks much better.

 

[adamsapple]

Maybe try subtlety with the trolling?

 

[saintjules]

So John states that if you have a 120hz VRR display he recommends Fidelity Pro mode with framerate cap disabled. Gonna try it.

Edit: Already mentioned on here.

 

[crazyriddler]

So same performance and resolution in both modes, performance mode at 1440p with PSSR and quality mode with a couple of slight raytracing improvements but capped at 30 fps.

$699... yikes!

 

[HRK69]

Most PCs are weaker than PS5 nevermind PS5 Pro.

Guess you've never heard of FSR

 

[Imtjnotu]

Going to try put fidelity pro with the uncapped frame rate tonight. Performance pro looked good but the extra fidelity looks much better.

Saw a video that says set it to uncapped and change RTAO to medium.

You get something around 70-90 fps or Hz.

 

[Tqaulity]

The fidelity Pro mode DOES drop below the VRR range at times and the result is that it doesn't feel nearly as smooth as the Performance Pro. The resulting IQ advantages of fidelity are pretty subtle and not very noticeable during actual gameplay. Even if you're looking for them, they're hard to spot. Fidelity cool to check out if you have the proper TV but no question the Perf Mode is the better playing mode (coming from someone who has only played Spiderman games in Fidelity modes).

 

[mansoor1980]

not a big difference between high vs medium RT settings really.
40 fps is best here , highest settings at a good framerate ftw

 

[Zathalus]

Ratchet and Clank performance numbers are pretty impressive. It’s basically all the RT features bar one at higher settings like the PC release and is around ~1800p upscaled to 4K via PSSR. I think that is around the ~4070 performance level, maybe even a bit higher. Much better showcase then basically everything else, but that is to be expected from the premier development team at Sony.

 

[XXL]

Guess you've never heard of FSR

Yeah, I've heard of FSR. It's garbage and barely works like most things on PC.

 

[HRK69]

Yeah, I've heard of FSR. It's garbage and barely works like most things on PC.

You really don't like PC's eh

It's okay. You'll switch eventually.

 

[XXL]

You really don't like PC's eh

I love PC. It's great for playing smaller indie games made by 3 people.

 

[Radical_3d]

Ratchet is basically double the performance with quality features. Savage. Too bad Insomiac games are narcoleptic to me.

 

[Mibu no ookami]

The fidelity Pro mode DOES drop below the VRR range at times and the result is that it doesn't feel nearly as smooth as the Performance Pro. The resulting IQ advantages of fidelity are pretty subtle and not very noticeable during actual gameplay. Even if you're looking for them, they're hard to spot. Fidelity cool to check out if you have the proper TV but no question the Perf Mode is the better playing mode (coming from someone who has only played Spiderman games in Fidelity modes).

I also preferred to performance pro mode over the fidelity mode. Though maybe dropping the medium on RT would make it feel smooth enough.

Pretty sure I'll be sticking with performance modes on my Pro. Even the difference between like 70-80 and 55-60 fps feels massive.

 

[Zathalus]

The fidelity Pro mode DOES drop below the VRR range at times and the result is that it doesn't feel nearly as smooth as the Performance Pro. The resulting IQ advantages of fidelity are pretty subtle and not very noticeable during actual gameplay. Even if you're looking for them, they're hard to spot. Fidelity cool to check out if you have the proper TV but no question the Perf Mode is the better playing mode (coming from someone who has only played Spiderman games in Fidelity modes).

Doesn’t the unlocked VRR for Insomniac Games enable LFC as well? Should always be in the VRR range then. On a 120hz panel that is.

 

[Parazels]

Aren't there too many settings even for the "Pro" players?

We are approaching the moment, when we shouldn't start playing, until DF have tested the game and found the best mode!

 

[Bojji]

Ratchet and Clank performance numbers are pretty impressive. It’s basically all the RT features bar one at higher settings like the PC release and is around ~1800p upscaled to 4K via PSSR. I think that is around the ~4070 performance level, maybe even a bit higher. Much better showcase then basically everything else, but that is to be expected from the premier development team at Sony.

Ratchet underperforms on GPUs below 16GB. Vram limited cause big performance drop on that 4070.

 

[HRK69]

I love PC. It's great for playing smaller indie games made by 3 people.

You are my new favorite person on GAF

 

[XXL]

Instead dealing with issues on PC, buy a PS5 Pro.

Buy PlayStation®5 Pro Console | PlayStation® (US) | See Price

With the PlayStation®5 Pro console, enjoy incredible features like advanced ray tracing, super sharp image clarity and high frame rate gameplay. PS5® Pro is an all-digital console with no disc drive. Discover the features, price, and more.

direct.playstation.com

 

[adamsapple]

Instead dealing with issues on PC, buy a PS5 Pro.

Buy PlayStation®5 Pro Console | PlayStation® (US) | See Price

With the PlayStation®5 Pro console, enjoy incredible features like advanced ray tracing, super sharp image clarity and high frame rate gameplay. PS5® Pro is an all-digital console with no disc drive. Discover the features, price, and more.

direct.playstation.com

 

[HRK69]

Instead dealing with issues on PC, buy a PS5 Pro.

Buy PlayStation®5 Pro Console | PlayStation® (US) | See Price

With the PlayStation®5 Pro console, enjoy incredible features like advanced ray tracing, super sharp image clarity and high frame rate gameplay. PS5® Pro is an all-digital console with no disc drive. Discover the features, price, and more.

direct.playstation.com

I need my 144 fps (yes peasants, you can run games above 30 fps)

 

[DeepEnigma]

trolling?

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Might make the topic when this gets the Xbox port, tho.

 

[adamsapple]

.
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Let's be honest, it's not worse than anything else in this topic

 

[SweetTooth]

When is someone post John's Stellar Blade observation? Or that is too positive to be posted?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Let's be honest, it's not worse than anything else in this topic

nOrMaL cOnVeRsAtIoN™

 

[twilo99]

PC wins as it seems

Now imagine if games on PC got the special "enhanced" treatment

 

[HeWhoWalks]

(yes peasants, you can run games above 30 fps)

Thankfully the Pro does just that.

 

[Team Andromeda]

Even 'PlayStation' John is having a hard time selling it. You're not seeing a massive improvement in this title

 

[Kangx]

So Ratchet basically a locked 60 on fidelity on a 120hz uncapped VRR TV. Although spider-man 2 but a bit less. Maybe turn down RTAO down a notch can net 3 go 4 frames which make it close to ratchet performance.

 

[adamsapple]

nOrMaL cOnVeRsAtIoN™

Ikr, Ya boy's starting to lose it.

 

[diffusionx]

Guess you've never heard of FSR

why do you think PS5 owners are so happy about PSSR?

 

[Dunker99]

Yeah I didn’t spend £700 on a console to play games at less than 60fps. Pity the performance mode is not much improved. I have a worrying feeling that developers will use the extra pro power for 30fps/fidelity modes, instead of the performance modes.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Yeah I didn’t spend £700 on a console to play games at less than 60fps. Pity the performance mode is not much improved. I have a worrying feeling that developers will use the extra pro power for 30fps/fidelity modes, instead of the performance modes.

The performance mode is much improved, it’s doing better fidelity than the original 30fps mode

 

[XXL]

Ikr, Ya boy's starting to lose it.

Nah, I'm fine. Just proving a point.

 

[Kaiserstark]

• Insomniac's Technological Push:
  • Insomniac, a leading Sony studio, is known for advancing PlayStation features. They've been an early adopter of technologies like 40 FPS output for 120 Hz screens and extensive ray tracing on consoles.
• PS5 Pro Upgrades:
  • The studio updated their PS5 titles for the PS5 Pro, adding Sony’s new PSSR (Pixel-Scaled Super-Resolution) for enhanced image quality and extra ray tracing (RT) options.
• New Display Modes:
  • On PS5 Pro, players have distinct "Performance Pro" and "Fidelity Pro" modes. Fidelity aims for 4K resolution with better detail, while Performance targets 1440p for smoother gameplay. PSSR improves text readability and stabilizes images in both modes.

• Ray Tracing Enhancements:
  • The PS5 Pro introduces features like RT Key Light Shadows (for distant sun shadows), high-resolution RT reflections, and RT ambient occlusion (for subtle contact shadows), enhancing depth and realism.
• Dynamic Resolution and Frame Rates:
  • PS5 Pro supports various frame rate options, such as 30, 40 (for 120 Hz VRR displays), and uncapped modes. Fidelity mode maintains a stable 30 FPS, while uncapped performance mode can reach 60–70 FPS on a VRR display.
• Draw Distance and Reflections:
  • In Fidelity mode, players experience improved draw distances, added reflections, and higher detail at a distance. Reflection quality on glass and water surfaces also benefits from the new ray-traced effects.
• Performance on Ratchet & Clank and Other Titles:
  • Other Insomniac games like Ratchet & Clank have received similar upgrades on PS5 Pro, with improved ray tracing, PSSR, and enhanced performance averaging 50–60 FPS with ray tracing features enabled.
• Player Choice and Flexibility:
  • Insomniac's updates emphasize user-adjustable settings, providing players with performance or visual fidelity options, demonstrating a commitment to user-friendly, high-quality gaming experiences.
• Impact and Takeaway:
  • While the upgrades are not revolutionary, they elevate the visuals and performance significantly, setting a benchmark for other developers to follow in implementing technical enhancements for mainstream games on new consoles.

 

[Lokaum D+]

I love PC. It's great for playing smaller indie games made by 3 people.

meanwhile on PC

 

[XXL]

meanwhile on PC

Did you buy it when it was 85% off?

 

[diffusionx]

meanwhile on PC

$2000 GPU

 

[Lokaum D+]

Did you buy it when it was 85% off?

no i bought for full price to play on inferior hardware like an idiot.