Charlie Kirk assassinated at Utah campus event

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Lefties just learnt the meaning of debate …..the only thing they know is violence




Is this a joke to you? What about the accusations that he raped two female students' ears with sentences they didn't consent to hearing? According to the testimonies the sick bastard not only used words but also numbers to penetrate their ears with unwanted facts

You people are disgusting
 
You guys are going to end up in a civil war if you can't work out how to find some middle ground.

Seems pretty obvious to me that demonising the right or calling everyone on the left a psychopath isn't working very well.
 
CK died, and conservatives responded by attacking the bill of rights. You don't see the irony here?

The Bill of Rights, which always was a bit of a facade, was completely demolished by the government and media collaborators during Covid. Everyone who took part in that must accept the consequences of what they pushed when they were on top.

Besides, this idiot was fired for incompetence and financial reasons, it wasn't Trump pointing his finger at him. Again leftists are trying to misdirect the public conversation with another lie, as per standard procedure.
 
You guys are going to end up in a civil war if you can't work out how to find some middle ground.

Seems pretty obvious to me that demonising the right or calling everyone on the left a psychopath isn't working very well.
What is the middle ground with someone who thinks your opinions warrants physical violence? Genuine question.
 
You guys are going to end up in a civil war if you can't work out how to find some middle ground.

Seems pretty obvious to me that demonising the right or calling everyone on the left a psychopath isn't working very well.
I don't think both sides are even willing to admit there's a problem yet. Here's another one.


But look how the left wing paper positions the story.


I suppose there's progress since the left isn't claiming free Palestine rants are symptoms of MAGA extremism (yet). So maybe there's hope :pie_eyeroll:
 
What is the middle ground with someone who thinks your opinions warrants physical violence? Genuine question.

I think finding middle ground doesn't extend to someone looking down a scope at you. Nobody is suggesting you go hug someone throwing bricks at you.

The problem is that as long as people talk about and point at what the other side is doing, instead of taking a look at themselves, things will only escalate.
 
The middle ground is the sane left joins with the right to shut down the far left radicals and terrorists who have captured their party, the education system and media.
The middle ground must also include acknowledging the problems on the your own side of the divide.

Looking at the other side and saying "it's all your fault!" Is what's driving all this.
 
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These are part of the extreme, but that extreme has done so much over the last ten years that there must be a path found to rein them in so dialogue can happen.
 
The middle ground must also include looking at acknowledging the problems on the other side of the divide.

Looking at the other side and saying "it's all your fault!" Is what's driving all this.

Mate they tried to put Trump in jail and then tried to kill him. After they banned him from pretty much everywhere. What middle ground are you talking about.

Come back to reality.
 
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Mate they tried to put Trump in jail and then tried to kill him. After they banned him from pretty much everywhere. What middle ground are you talking about.

Come back to reality.

They? Everyone who isn't a Trump supporter isn't waiting for delivery of a sniper rifle. Talking like they are is part of the problem.
 
they tried to put someone with multiple criminal charges in jail? say it ain't so!
No they went hunting for excuses to try to get rid of a political problem, as was very obvious to anyone being honest, which is why it thankfully backfired on them and made President Trump more popular than ever. Standard socialist tactics.
 
No they went hunting for excuses to try to get rid of a political problem, as was very obvious to anyone being honest, which is why it thankfully backfired on them and made President Trump more popular than ever. Standard socialist tactics.

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the cool aid must taste great
 
Can't have government agencies acting like mob bosses. I'm not sure what reality that's legal and appropriate. Maybe in China.
Oh please. If this was China or some TRUE fascist state the government would just nationalize ABC. All this was is some vague statements, ABC could have easily had Kimmel make a weak apology, and that would have been the end of it. Or ABC could have e just kept Kimmel in, let hom double down, and in a week no one would give a shit anyway.

But hey, there were other, non-FCC factors like the local affiliates being missed off, the gutter low ratings, and hemorrhaging money on an expensive show. Cancelation was inevitable and has nothing to do with any federal coersion.
 
That was my biggest disagreement with Charlie and every other Christian. That morality needs god tocoercion.
Without some sort of judgement and consequences, either by other humans or by divine power, there is no morality. Taking actions without consequences is no different than deciding to eat cheerios or frosted flakes in the morning.
Basically, i try to treat people the same way i would like to be treated by them, in order for everyone to co-exist in peace within a society. If everyone was a shitty person who only thinks of their own self, society would collapse. It's a very simple concept. And sure, some fail safe mechanisms are needed to make sure the radical few won't mess everything for the rest, such as laws. And sure, maybe some more simple minded people absolutely need an invisible big brother to keep themselves in line at all times.
History shows that in a society SOMEONE is always at the top, enforcing rules. It's either the clan leader, the Pharaoh, the king, a dictator, or its a god. Religion, when properly presented with simple and well defined rules that enhance cooperation and temper man's biological impulses, allows society to get away from the "rule of man" (i.e. who ever is in charge makes up their own rules) to "rule of law" (ie consistent rules that apply to everyone) which attempts to shift the burden of judgement to a sky god.

But Charlie was not a simple minded person so it was always so frustrating to me he absolutely needed God for him to be a decent person.
Im not religious either but I can certainly see why religion is appealing to folks and plenty of people report a type of reassurance and even communication with their god. Real or imaginary, its a pretty common experience, even more so with the right psychedelics. A well defined religion, like Christianity, has endless depths of theology for intelligent people to explore and find answers. It's a massive puzzle for some people.
 
They? Everyone who isn't a Trump supporter isn't waiting for delivery of a sniper rifle. Talking like they are is part of the problem.

The problem is the bogus charges, the censoring and the assassination attempt. Stop doing this silly both sides fallacy, they deplatformed the President of the USA, they have done everything they possible can to make him ineligible and ended up trying to kill him. If you want middle ground, then grow a spine and condemn these actions unanimously and move away from the lunatics. Instead you fantasize a both sides issue to make yourself feel better, just look how these lunatics reacted to Charlie Kirk murder vs when a slimey dude who pissed on everybody he didn't like got suspended. Come back to reality.
 
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The problem is the bogus charges, the censoring and the assassination attempt. Stop doing this silly both sides fallacy, they deplatformed the President of the USA, they have done everything they possible can to make him ineligible and ended up trying to kill him. If you want middle ground, then grow a spine and condemn these actions unanimously and move away from the lunatics. Instead you fantasize a both sides issue to make yourself feel better, just look how these lunatics reacted when Charlie Kirk was shot vs when a slimey dude who pissed on everybody he didn't like got suspended. These things aren't the same, there are no both sides. Come back to reality.

"come back to reality"
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"We can do this the easy way or the hard way."

Hard way implying that merger is not getting approved.
'Easy way' was ABC and affiliates take steps themselves to come back in to compliance with the FCCs rules.

'Hard way' was the FCC takes steps to enforce those rules, meaning possible fines and license revocation, as spelled out in the interview. There was nothing vague about it.
 
The middle ground is the sane left joins with the right to shut down the far left radicals and terrorists who have captured their party, the education system and media.

Yes, let us join the "sane" middle ground. Where the statistics were conveniently removed for telling the truth.
 
You guys are going to end up in a civil war if you can't work out how to find some middle ground.

Seems pretty obvious to me that demonising the right or calling everyone on the left a psychopath isn't working very well.
Of course it's not working.

You know what IS working? This:



Dropping the cultural nonsense and focusing on economic populism will solve a lot of the issues between the more sane segments of the so-called right and left. People need to stop pointing fingers and actually think about who benefits from the civil war narrative.
 
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Yes, let us join the "sane" middle ground. Where the statistics were conveniently removed for telling the truth.
Most political violence studies get their numbers for the Anti-Defamation League. And it turns out those numbers are heavily padded to make right-wing numbers unfairly higher.

 

Yes, let us join the "sane" middle ground. Where the statistics were conveniently removed for telling the truth.
If you have leftists do the research and don't count left wing political violence as left wing political violence then I'm sure the stats will say that.
 
Most political violence studies get their numbers for the Anti-Defamation League. And it turns out those numbers are heavily padded to make right-wing numbers unfairly higher.

A conservative billionaire businessman funds the Washington examiner while pbs is funded by small donations from regular people. Hmmmmmm. Let me trust the billionaire. Nah. Miss me with that. That's some yoga of the mind.
 

Yes, let us join the "sane" middle ground. Where the statistics were conveniently removed for telling the truth.

PBS is a one of the loudest left-wing mouthpiece







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The problem is the bogus charges

Outside of the New York case, which was widely considered to be weak, most of the other charges had reasonable grounds to be brought.

He knows the ADL and CSIS datasets are highly flawed. The middle ground is trying to gaslight others that maybe a groyper tried to kill Trump.

Even under the most generous interpretation, which would remain debatable, political violence from the right has happened a lot more than what your side is currently pretending. Which consists of entirely ignoring it or claiming that it almost doesn't exist.
 
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Of course it's not working.

You know what IS working? This:



Dropping the cultural nonsense and focusing on economic populism will solve a lot of the issues between the more sane segments of the so-called right and left. People need to stop pointing fingers and actually think about who benefits from the civil war narrative.

I watched that the other day, I agree.

It's a shame the country couldn't get behind Bernie, he seems like a good guy.
 
If you want to see how PBS and all other left-wing media platform operate, just look no further Resetera.

IRYNA ZARUTSKA story is one of the most gruesome hate crime of the year. And yet, not one single thread about it, just like when all other left-wing media failed to report it. To them IRYNA's story is just another urban crime statistic. But when you look at the whole uncut video surveillance, it's clearly a hate crime where the murderer shouted 'I got that white girl' repeatedly.

But not one thread in resetera, but they have tons of threads covering the smallest conservatives faults
 
A conservative billionaire businessman funds the Washington examiner while pbs is funded by small donations from regular people. Hmmmmmm. Let me trust the billionaire. Nah. Miss me with that. That's some yoga of the mind.
The owner of a publisher lives rent free in your head so you don't even browse the article, knowing you can't refute it, while blindly agreeing with one of the most one-sided news reporters out there. Nah. Miss me on that. That's some crazy contortioning of the brain.
 
and actually think about who benefits from the civil war narrative.
Who?

Yes, let us join the "sane" middle ground. Where the statistics were conveniently removed for telling the truth.
I wonder why in your article no mentions of 2021+
Illustrative cases include the 2015 Charleston church shooting, when white supremacist Dylann Roof killed nine Black parishioners; the 2018 Tree of Life synagogue attack in Pittsburgh, where 11 worshippers were murdered; the 2019 El Paso Walmart massacre, in which an anti-immigrant gunman killed 23 people.

It's a shame the country couldn't get behind Bernie, he seems like a good guy.
I think (but I obviously don't know enough) that the Democratic Party went downhill from the moment Clinton "illegally" replaced Sanders in the election.
 
If you want to see how PBS and all other left-wing media platform operate, just look no further Resetera.

IRYNA ZARUTSKA story is one of the most gruesome hate crime of the year. And yet, not one single thread about it, just like when all other left-wing media failed to report it. To them IRYNA's story is just another urban crime statistic. But when you look at the whole uncut video surveillance, it's clearly a hate crime where the murderer shouted 'I got that white girl' repeatedly.

But not one thread in resetera, but they have tons of threads covering the smallest conservatives faults
Not a single segment on it from the so called centrist channel Breaking Points. Usually at least Saagar would do one segment on such a story, he was clearly not allowed to by Krystal.
 
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