PS4 Has Fifty Percent Lead Over Microsoft's Xbox One, Says Strategy Analytics Survey
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Darklor01
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I am getting PS4 at launch, and might or might not get Xbox One eventually. I just think that most people will eventually get both. I think that a console life cycle is really long now. People who get PS4 at launch may get an Xbox One as well down the line.
If true, the continued sales trend for PS4 would slow because people already own it, and the Xbox One sales would trend upward.
Although its probable the PS4 wins the war at first, it's hard to predict who wins in the end until close to the end. Statistics are easily spun by professionals that know how to do so.
If true, the continued sales trend for PS4 would slow because people already own it, and the Xbox One sales would trend upward.
Although its probable the PS4 wins the war at first, it's hard to predict who wins in the end until close to the end. Statistics are easily spun by professionals that know how to do so.
James Sawyer Ford
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I don't see how Xbox One is going to suddenly catch up.
PS3 had a number of disadvantages and it outsold the 360 the vast majority of the time.
IncandescentPrecept
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I think Sony has it in the bag in every region worldwide.
Can't that same reasoning apply to the Xbox One? It'll probably catch up after numerous bundles and price cuts in a few years.
Xv Elite vX
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This is dumb speculation. I just read an IGN analysis from EA I believe that states XBOX One has 2-3 times the amount of systems available at launch over PS4. Analysts are idiots.
IncandescentPrecept
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The same reasoning cannot apply since the Xbox One doesn't have the support of the PS brand.
Darklor01
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It's a theory I stated before. Lets say that the majority of the early adopters buy a PS4. This sales trend hits a plateau, with a likelihood of a downward sales trend later because the majority of PS4 consoles that would be sold are already sold(obviously there will be late adopters, people buying an additional one, or a replacement one). That means that the slow to start sales trend for Xbox One trends upward later by those adopting later on, with a continual spike in sales.
Over seven or eight years, anything can happen, either side could win the ear.
SuperSonic1305
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Xbox is largely irrelevant outside North America and Xbox One will be more-so because of it's focus on TV and services. If they don't lead from the start they never will.
James Sawyer Ford
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No, it can't apply to the Xbox One because the Xbox 360 never had the global market dominance that the Playstation brand has that allowed the PS3 to come back even though it's been more expensive for the entire generation.
Multiconsole owners are in the minority, and Microsoft has their work cut out for them since they have the weakest first party lineup. I don't think this is a reasonable theory. PS4 isn't going to suddenly reach a plateau and then everyone decides to get an Xbox One. The snowball momentum effect from launch will ripple down to all phases of the coming generation's lifecycle.
Future PhaZe
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All I want is competition.
Sony, MS and Nintendo have all proven to be massive fuckheads at one point or another coming off of a won generation, and putting all your eggs in any of their baskets would be stupid.
Sony, MS and Nintendo have all proven to be massive fuckheads at one point or another coming off of a won generation, and putting all your eggs in any of their baskets would be stupid.
Unknown Soldier
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We're seeing TitanFall right now, Major Nelson.
Vincent4756
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they don't have those numbers. unless everyone is ready for RROD 2.0 cause that is what's gonna happen if the yield issues are true. also didn't the ps4 just passed FCC inspection? so doesn't that mean Sony can ramp up production anyway?
Freshmaker
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Rick Perry did suffer from being an idiot.
I still feel like this lead won't really matter in the end, I honestly expect both launches to be front loaded and by the time March comes around both will be selling 100-150k units each month, with the Xbox One closer to 100k and PS4 closer to 150k, I think the contraction we will see this generation is gonna surprise a lot of people, and couple that with prices that aren't really mass market price points I don't see either doing monster numbers.
fastford58
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Maybe XboxTWO will be better conceived.
TheLaughingStock
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The Xbox One having 2-3x more supply is more baseless than dumb. Who's the rep at EA that claimed that?
Ironmanxrs2
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Yield issues don't cause RROD. In case you haven't noticed the XBO box is much more open and ventilated compared to Sony's cramped box.
James Sawyer Ford
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This generation has been long in the tooth.
Pre-orders are already blowing past last-gen.
There is no "contraction" other than what's normal for the tail-end of a generation.
And actually, sales this late in a generation have been far greater than previous generations.
There will be a ton of demand for the PS4, and lesser extent Xbox One, for quite some time. Especially with the Wii U failing to catch on.
dream431ca
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For every two people who've seen Titanfall, three people haven't.
THE BEST!!! I seriously just laughed out loud.
Technically (from a features point of view) the PS3 was the better product this gen.
It'll come down to marketing, always has always will.
Marketing is what gets people to pay for P2P multiplayer, even when there was a free alternative elsewhere.
Not really. Consider that the 360 had a considerable lead over the PS3 all generation in the US and UK, yet they both ended the generation with roughly the same numbers. Even if MS breaks even with Sony in the US and UK, they still won't be close to PS4 numbers. Sony will also have a much easier time dropping their price, and they will consistently be cheaper. MS including the Kinect has ensured a price advantage for Sony for the entire generation unless MS caves and creates a SKU without Kinect.
I disagree, especially this gen where both systems require you to pay for online play, and a lot of people would hate to pay for 2 online services. I also expect less exclusives this gen in comparison to last gen (excluding Kinect/PSEye/Move games).
Xv Elite vX
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I am at work right now so I cannot get the source for you. I did read that last night right on the cover of IGN though. It may still be right there.
So what will happen if the other one outsells the other? 3rd party exclusives are already extinct because game development is so expensive, and every major game will be available on on every possible platform (PC/X1/PS4) because of this.
Sony 1st party studios will develop to PS4 no matter if it sells 10 or 10 million pieces. Same can be said about MS and X1.
So what is the point?
Sony 1st party studios will develop to PS4 no matter if it sells 10 or 10 million pieces. Same can be said about MS and X1.
So what is the point?
Darklor01
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Fair point. I forgot to include the paying for two online services bit in my theory. That is a bit of a game changer, as is the forced Kinect.
Pre-orders are exactly what I mean when I think the launches will be front loaded, Wii U also had very high pre-orders and broke many records itself, but after the initial launch sales went down the drain.
Now obviously I don't think either the Xbox One or PS4 will sell as bad as Wii U is selling right now, because they will have a steady stream of software coming out, but I just think that after the pre-launch hype tapers off and everything is said and done sales will not be amazing, I think the fact that this gen went on for so long will be one of the reasons why.
They will probably produce half as many systems at launch and there will be so little demand for them you WILL see 2-3 times the amount of Xbones available as PS4s.
Darklor01
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Is the key word there available, as in, not sold or pre-sold?
Edit: If you can't sell them at all, sure, they're available.
You mean this: Analyst: Xbox One may have 3x more launch units than PS4.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/analyst-xbox-one-may-have-3x-more-launch-units-than-ps4-6411894
Agreed. The market has changed and there are so many other entertainment devices competing of people's time.
Earlier there's always been a big push for something new, but now it feels we are seeing even more of the same. Putting more hardware power in the box isn't innovating, and at the same time the market should expand and grow compared to previous generations to sustain a business model that supports all the time growing budgets.
Console gaming enthusiasts are excited and will buy new consoles like they always do, but to get more people on board than earlier will be very hard or impossible which means serious trouble for companies expecting to sell 5-10 million pieces of software to break even.
Not to mention that multiconsole owners will pick up their multiplats on PS4 like they did on 360 this last gen due to the power difference which further hurts attach rate. Yeah you bought an XBO to go alongside your PS4 so you could play Halo and DR3. But if that's it, is that a win?
And who's going to reach mass market pricing first?
rudieboy77
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The 360 seemed to catch all the breaks this gen, from all the missteps by Sony to 3rd party games generally looking better on 360, it is why I never bought a PS3.
Something appears to have changed though and it seems that the PS4 will be taking the spot 360 had. I was a little nervous after the recent firmware screw up on PS3, but I will be getting the PS4 and have no plans to get the Xbox.
Something appears to have changed though and it seems that the PS4 will be taking the spot 360 had. I was a little nervous after the recent firmware screw up on PS3, but I will be getting the PS4 and have no plans to get the Xbox.
Quadraphonic
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Yeah. On shelves. Unsold.
IncandescentPrecept
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The contraction will mostly come from the WiiU sales being down a lot from the Wii sales.
As of right now the PS3 is still selling a lot so there is not indication that those people will stop console gaming.
No it wasn't. By the time Sony was on competitive ground on first party titles and online features, the majority of consumers had already chosen. Sony's efforts allowed them to beat 360 in WW sales, but it's not accurate to say Sony's PS3 competed with 360 feature for feature until the past 3 years, after 4 years into the generation. MS won the early mindshare in the US because Sony wasn't competitive realistically. And third party games were always better on 360.
But none of that is true this time. MS is the ones resting on their laurels while Sony is eating them alive with a substantially improved product that is good for developers whether indie or AAA as well as good for consumers.
professor_t
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To be fair, this is only part of the picture.
a) The PS3 lost substantial market share from the previous generation
b) The Xbox gained substantial market share from the previous generation
c) The consoles are about neck and neck worldwide, from what we can tell
d) The Xbox is trouncing the PS3 in the world's largest market
I would say that the present generation saw Microsoft on an upwards swing and Sony on a downward slide.
If anything, MS seemed to figure out some keys to success as the generation progressed (in terms of sales, not quality). They just cannot -- and will not -- crack that Japanese market. They'll always get murdered over there.
Sony might, Microsoft might, hell even Nintendo may be able to properly advertise the Wii U and make it look appealing by the time Mario Kart 8 comes out. I think the best shot any of these systems had/has at being MASSIVE successes was/is going to be at launch, otherwise they will sell modestly, enough to turn a profit, but nothing groundbreaking. I personally agree with Taurus, I think he hit the nail on the head.
Xv Elite vX
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No. i did not read this article. It was on IGN, and it was concerning an EA rep. I just thisnk threads like this do us no good for the most part. Might be best to wait for NPD numbers as they roll in during launch.
Vincent4756
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size maybe. we dont know about vents cause we haven't seen the ps4 open yet. also yield issues don't cause rrod is true. I ment if they are having yield issues on the Esram doesn't that slow down production? and if they are rushing production doesn't that mean there will be system failures?
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