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A vehicle has been driven into people in the Swedish capital Stockholm, injuring many

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Majukun

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Not sure how this can ever be protected against..whether it's a terrorist attack or just a drunk asshole, it seems like an impossibility. Hopefully the injuries are minimal.
maybe a way to shutdown the engine from corporate trucks remotely? that at least would avoid scenarios like this with heavy stolen vehicles.. not much you can do about privately owned cars though
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
I'm going up to central Stockholm next week on meetings with work. No fucking way am i doing that now.

Stockholm is gonna be safer than ever for the next few days/weeks. And even without that, there's no reason to expect something similar to happen again very soon, in a country that has never seen it before.
 
Me and my friend always walk there when I visit... Was about to visit him today too. Freaked the hell out, could have easily been him or the both of us... :(
 

Superimposer

This is getting weirder all the time
if this is a terror attack by the usual suspects, it'll be more fuel as to why I sometimes understand the closed borders policy on former "paradise countries". Fuck, this shouldn't be happening, problems should not be exported.

Segregating groups and fostering prejudice by closing borders to perceived "types of people" is how this kind of violence festers in the first place
 

fanboi

Banned
According to aftonbladet.se something is going on in the central station now (saw the national response team enter).
 
Not sure how this can ever be protected against..whether it's a terrorist attack or just a drunk asshole, it seems like an impossibility.

you are correct, there is nothing we can do to completely safeguard against this

if we change our way of life, the terrorists win

Segregating groups and fostering prejudice by closing borders to perceived "types of people" is how this kind of violence festers in the first place

yes, it's a self-perpetuating positive feedback loop

it's depressing
 

Dehnus

Member
Sigh, it is so fucked up.

Groups like ISIS want people like Trump in power so that the people the terrorize can no longer flee for them.... to do this they kill random strangers with as much damage as possible. At the same time groups like Trump supporters need groups like ISIS and love to attack the very region to get more of the people that suffer under the first group to leave flee for their lives.

I"m starting to believe we as a species deserve to be annihilated by now. If we are doing this kind of shit just for some power or money (war is good for business) or simply if you're crazy... and think your bearded man on the sky will give you a hug if you do? (Which I question isn't the reason seeing how they sell artifacts they claim they need to destroy.. just so they get more money :( ). I mean how and why do we still deserve this earth with this kind of shitty behavior! :(.

Sigh.... I hate humans today... at least for today.. I will hate humans...
 
Damn it. Rip.

When things like this happens I always hope it's just a driver who suffered a stroke or something.

Self driving cars can't come soon enough.
 

Nighte

Member
I really dont get what they hope to achieve with this if this is islamist terrorism. All they achieve is even more will to fight and push back from all non islamistic countries.
It is just like the radicals want to ruin everything for their own religion..
 

spekkeh

Banned
Segregating groups and fostering prejudice by closing borders to perceived "types of people" is how this kind of violence festers in the first place
Gonna need to see some receipts for that, because that's not really what was happening in Sweden. Most of the attacks occur in France, which has had a social Democrat government for some time.
You can't take your personal pet peeve and say that's the reason why.
 
I really dont get what they hope to achieve with this if this is islamist terrorism. All they achieve is even more will to fight and push back from all non islamistic countries.
It is just like the radicals want to ruin everything for their own religion..

That is what they want. Increased misery in those regions caused by Western aggression makes it easier for them to recruit more people
 

Flintty

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Sigh, it is so fucked up.

Groups like ISIS want people like Trump in power so that the people the terrorize can no longer flee for them.... to do this they kill random strangers with as much damage as possible. At the same time groups like Trump supporters need groups like ISIS and love to attack the very region to get more of the people that suffer under the first group to leave flee for their lives.

I"m starting to believe we as a species deserve to be annihilated by now. If we are doing this kind of shit just for some power or money (war is good for business) or simply if you're crazy... and think your bearded man on the sky will give you a hug if you do? (Which I question isn't the reason seeing how they sell artifacts they claim they need to destroy.. just so they get more money :( ). I mean how and why do we still deserve this earth with this kind of shitty behavior! :(.

Sigh.... I hate humans today... at least for today.. I will hate humans...

For fucks sake please don't bring Trump shit into this thread. People have died and your first thought is Trump?! This shit has been going on for years and has nothing to do with him. Jesus Christ.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
I really dont get what they hope to achieve with this if this is islamist terrorism. All they achieve is even more will to fight and push back from all non islamistic countries.
It is just like the radicals want to ruin everything for their own religion..

What they want to achieve is for Sweden to take a harder stance against immigration and refugees in general so that they can use that hypothetical policy change for their propoganda against the west.

And recruit more people. I think that's what's going on anyway.

For fucks sake please don't bring Trump shit into this thread. People have died and your first thought is Trump?! This shit has been going on for years and has nothing to do with him. Jesus Christ.

The dude can also fuck right off with that sentimental "human race doesn't deserve to live" crap, fuck that. It's at times as these that we need to stay strong. I'm sick and tired of seeing this defeatist attitude online.
 

Sarek

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I really dont get what they hope to achieve with this if this is islamist terrorism. All they achieve is even more will to fight and push back from all non islamistic countries.
It is just like the radicals want to ruin everything for their own religion..

It is perfect deal for them. Like those recent intercepted communications from those terrorists that were planning to blow up that famous bridge in Italy(?) proved. They believe it is an instant ticket to paradise from their most likely rather shitty lives. I really think that is the real main motivator for many terrorists rather than some grand cause.
 

Dehnus

Member
These people just don't give a fuck.

They do, they want the Sweden democrats in power, a then the poor sods that suffer under them can no longer escape from them.. Not allowing any refugees is exactly what they want. Chaos is also good for business so the war industry also wants it, and nutjobs like alt reich pepes want it for power and getting their version of a closed border and "no escape".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLNhPMQnWu4

And they have supporters that adhere to the easy two sides idea to help em out in that, like John Cleese explains so well in the above video. After anybody that isn't on your side is automatically evil no matter what.

Gosh, I hate humans. Today, I bloody hate humans...
 
Fuck. My condolences to everyone affected and to StockholmGAF. What a shitty day.

The fact that attacks be they motivated by terror or otherwise involving vehicles ploughing into pedestrians are becoming more and more semi-regular of late is particularly alarming.
 
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Horrible fucking thing to do.
 
Absolute fucking morons as always.

It's basically impossible to prevent someone doing this if they want.

But how is it so difficult to figure out which of these loons has ramped up their radicalisation lately with the unbelievable spying tools that state has.
 

Dehnus

Member
It is perfect deal for them. Like those recent intercepted communications from those terrorists that were planning to blow up that bridge in Italy(?) proved. They believe it is in instant ticket to paradise from their most likely rather shitty lives. I really think that is the real main motivator for many terrorists rather than some grand cause.

Nah, those are just nutjobs that believe the lies. The ones on the top don't really believe it, to them it is just power over people. The ones that blow themselves up? They are the nutjobs, like the Religious RIght is a handy tool to the REpublicans (useful idiots) so are these Islamic extremists useful idiots to the ones in charge of Isis.

Any outcome of this is fantastic for those "leaders" as. 1. Right wing rise in Sweden in response, meaning more aggression towards muslims in general, refugees and thus more people you can possibly brainwash for your idiotic cause. 2. Even more closed off borders so people can't escape your medieval rule anymore, and you have total control over those poor sods that try. 3. "Look at how scared and angry they are!" kind of power rush, works the same as with all trolling.

Humans are fucked up like this.
 
Feels so horrible and such pointless violence. Work in slussen, two Subway stations away, but feel secure here in the office. Gonna be an late friday night. Was going to suggest an after work, before this shit.
 

Staf

Member
Seems like GAF is already starting to politicizing this, shocking. Stay safe StockholmGAF from you best mate GothenburgGAF.
 

Marow

Member
Remember that it just recently happened. There are lots of question marks floating around, including how many deaths/injured or a possible follow-up. Not to mention the actual background to this whole issue.

Rather than spreading more fear and information, take a deep breath.

Wait until more information comes.

Breathe.

All we know is that people are dead.

Please don't spread fear.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
I really dont get what they hope to achieve with this if this is islamist terrorism. All they achieve is even more will to fight and push back from all non islamistic countries.
It is just like the radicals want to ruin everything for their own religion..

They want to turn citizens of western countries against Muslims, which they hope will lead to more radicalization among said Muslims, more attacks, etc, etc.
 

dave is ok

aztek is ok
Sweden have been active in Afghanistan though.
They're also the most refugee friendly country in the world.

These are mostly attacks of opportunity, they just want to attack 'the West' and whatever country falls under that giant umbrella
 

Dehnus

Member

That one should be mandatory, after that Dutch show invented it (They also did that "the Netherlands second" thing). Translated to almost all languages to make sure no idiot falls in the clutches of power hungry shits like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi stirring the pot to get what they want.
 

Easy_D

never left the stone age
Remember that it just recently happened. There are lots of question marks floating around, including how many deaths/injured or a possible follow-up. Not to mention the actual background to this whole issue.

Rather than spreading more fear and information, take a deep breath.

Wait until more information comes.

Breathe.

All we know is that people are dead.

Please don't spread fear.

Coincidentally this is also essentially what Hans Brun (expert on terrorism) said. Don't spread rumours, wait for the facts before jumping to any conclusions and try your best to keep calm.

But we're not a rational species I suppose and grief comes in many ways, I'm personally at the "fuck you you fucking asshole who did this" stage. right now, fucking pissed.

Jävla helvete.
 

Forsete

Member
Hopefully this is Kerstin Holms (SVT) last broadcast. Bothering people, blocking the police, sticking a microphone between two policemen talking to each other.

What a clown.
 

NateDog

Member
Hope the casualties aren't high and that the culprit has been caught, I really hope there isn't more happening right now.
 

RoadHazard

Gold Member
Hopefully this is Kerstin Holms (SVT) last broadcast. Bothering people, blocking the police, sticking a microphone between two policemen talking to each other.

What a clown.

Yep, thought the same. What a moron. And SVT is supposed to be "serious media".
 
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