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AMD RX 6000 'Big Navi' GPU Event | 10/28/2020 @ 12PM EST/9AM PST/4PM UK
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AquaticSquirrel
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A card 500 more you mean.
MiguelItUp
Member
Wtf is up with the illiterate trolls in here thinking that AMD "lost"?
AMD just showed tech that is essentially on par with NVIDIA's tech while using less power and charging less money.
That is not a loss whatsoever.
Edit: I caught up with the show after my morning work meeting, so sorry if I offended any nerds for missing any special intricacies. What I saw was mentioned above and essentially was the TL'DR for me.
Also, also, this isn't rage-filled, lol. So don't go all knee jerk rage on me. I'm one of the few people here that DGAF about hostile debates, name calling, toxicity, etc. Go to someone else for that, you're wasting your time coming at me with any of that. If anything I'm someone that's known for typing lol, lmao, etc. too much.
AMD just showed tech that is essentially on par with NVIDIA's tech while using less power and charging less money.
That is not a loss whatsoever.
Edit: I caught up with the show after my morning work meeting, so sorry if I offended any nerds for missing any special intricacies. What I saw was mentioned above and essentially was the TL'DR for me.
Also, also, this isn't rage-filled, lol. So don't go all knee jerk rage on me. I'm one of the few people here that DGAF about hostile debates, name calling, toxicity, etc. Go to someone else for that, you're wasting your time coming at me with any of that. If anything I'm someone that's known for typing lol, lmao, etc. too much.
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llien
Banned
It is not surprising RDNA2 pwns Ampere, one could see it coming and we have talked about that many times.
Curious how there is no cheaper than $579 option, although it's pretty damn legit to ask $79 more for for 18% faster card with double the RAM.
Curious how there is no cheaper than $579 option, although it's pretty damn legit to ask $79 more for for 18% faster card with double the RAM.
Was it sarcasm? I hope this was sarcasm.
you know, there will be DLSS equivalents in Directx12U via ML support that will work on any DX12U card.
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Doncabesa
Member
yeah fixed it, misremebered the price. it's even crazier
Andodalf
Banned
AMD showed that in very specific situations they can match the power, but have done nothing to address RT or DLSS. When those are added in, Results could be a blowout in favor of Nvidia.
TyphoonStruggle
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AquaticSquirrel
Member
How is that 3090 that you paid 700 dollars over market price for working out? I definitely expected you to be super positive on AMD in this thread. Can't think of a single reason why you wouldn't be! No correlation at all!
DemonCleaner
Member
what will happen if i clock this 6900XT to 2.5 Ghz
my body is ready. my PSU isn't.
my body is ready. my PSU isn't.
llien
Banned
Benchmarks were shown without OC and Zen3.
Then boost from Zen3+autoOC.
Oh, you sweet summer child, I hope you have Valerian nearby.So much for 2.4Ghz clocks
Okamiden
Member
That explains subpar ray-tracing performance in first games for next-gen consoles. Hopes for a RT cores are dead I guess. Pretty sad.
MiguelItUp
Member
Other than saying they exist, that's true. Good point.
I guess that's the part that's essentially still up in the air.
Doncabesa
Member
it's pc gpu warriors, people stan for anything
they talked about super resolution
Deanington
Member
Whelp looks like I am going full AMD for my next build.
CrustyBritches
Gold Member
Man, AMD just brought the heat! Let's see
I missed the XT and XL, but bang-on for the 6900XTX. Thanks, Su Bae, for taking my advice on pricing.
Damian black
Member
6800 is better than 3070/2080ti but should have been 550 instead of 579 imo.
VFXVeteran
Banned
Everyone will care in the next couple of years when EVERY game will include it.
tkscz
Member
Obvious bait is obvious
6800 XT being $50 bucks less than 3080 and 6900 XT being $300 less than the 3090 are smart moves, but the 6800 costing $180 more than the 3070 ain't the smartest of moves. They seem on par with one another, that much of a price gap can hurt them.
Azurro
Banned
Very few games have DLSS though.
Senua
Member
People expect AMD cards to be half price or something? IDK
Sethbacca
Member
If nothing else it begs the question of how Sony appears to be getting better RT performance out of the PS5 than Xbox to this point (Keywords = appears). Makes me wonder if there is some secret sauce yet to be revealed.
ChuckeRearmed
Member
Now it all depends on RT performance. They did not show it though - bad sign.
Andodalf
Banned
Talk is cheap. I want results. DLSS 1.0 was buns in most implementations. It took multiple gens and dedicated hardware to get good results. Amd has to nail this and didn't show that
GaviotaGrande
Banned
We will be a couple of GPU generations ahead in a couple of years anyway.
DemonCleaner
Member
So much for 2.4Ghz clocks
we already saw from 3D mark log files that it can run over 2.5 Ghz.
if you want to invest the TDP you will get there.
first time amd might take the OC thrones in a long time.
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Nah thats good thing in the long run. proprietary hardware holds back development and inflates prices.
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Andodalf
Banned
Nothing indicates this, only that devs have prioritized working on PS5s RT in games over Xbox. The biggest example DMC has marketing for Sony so of course wants to have that in great shape day 1.
Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
50 dollars too expensive for the 6800XT.
But thankfully they are right into highend again and hopefully Nvidia shitting themselves into a price drop for the RTX 3070 and RTX 3075.
If SuperResolution works well and can give DLSS a run for its money......and have higher support due to console training.
But thankfully they are right into highend again and hopefully Nvidia shitting themselves into a price drop for the RTX 3070 and RTX 3075.
If SuperResolution works well and can give DLSS a run for its money......and have higher support due to console training.
CuNi
Member
Oh, must have missed that.
Once someone posts slides, I'll try to take a look at that.
Gotta say, AMD really did surprise me here and I command them on that! Did NOT expect that much.
I'd love a more technical breakdown though like, maybe I missed it, but I know Ampere has RT-Cores that only do RTX calculations. Does 6000-Series also have dedicated Raytrace hardware or is it done through shaders etc. ?
Damn I was so set on a 3080, now I really gotta re-evaluate this. Hope stock will be better on those cards.
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Deleted member 17706
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I think I'm in for a 6900XT if I can get one before the end of the year. I'm guessing I won't have a chance.
TTOOLL
Member
In the next couple of years both Nvidia and AMD will have new cards with more performance....I don't see the problem here. I think AMD delivered today.
Sethbacca
Member
You'd think all of this would be being showcased on the more powerful box (at least on paper). It's just odd, but whatever. I'm taking the wait and see approach here.
Andodalf
Banned
No RT specific Hardware, no Tensor hardware equivalent either. Without those AMD needed to blow Nvidia out of the water for it to really be close.
Kazekage1981
Member
Godfall is for PC?!
Azurro
Banned
That's conspiracy theory territory. DMC has RT because Sony is ahead of Microsoft in this area, Sony is just ahead of them in general. The whole launching the SX with no games would tell you this.
BTW, unless I'm wrong, I thought each CU has hardware raytracing support, at the very least consoles do. The implementation is different, but let's see results.
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Fanatics. They long have existed in the PCMR tardation online for years.
grfunkulus
Banned
You're calling people illiterate while focusing on the two points that matter significantly less? A $50 haircut and 20 watts of total board power? Ok, LMFAO.
Seriously dude, you're the dumb one if you think that's the argument.
It's the lack of performance in ray tracing and uncertainty about a true dlss 2.0 competitor vs the uncertainty of 10gb of vram being enough that is the discussion. Amd's pricing was only going to tilt the discussion heavily in their favor if it was much more aggressive. Now they're just competing on features. Do you want more forward thinking and advanced features/performance now? Choose 3080. Do you want 5 years out of your card for SURE without compromise on vram intensive settings? Choose Amd
Nikana
Go Go Neo Rangers!
ALways has been.
Andodalf
Banned
DMC has a marketing agreement for Sony. Why would they show Xbox? Consoles don't really have any big RT titles rn, Sony's first party stuff is about it
CuNi
Member
Thats a bummer. I hope we'll get benchmarks soon-ish and not in the NVIDIA way on sales day.
Really wondering how RT On vs RT Off performance looks like in a direct comparison etc. also with non AMD CPUs or without Rage.
tkscz
Member
Whats wrong with the software based RT they showed? While it is stuck to DX for now, I don't think OpenGL or Vulkin would be far behind.
All the new big ones kinda do though. Nvidia are working on a Global Model i think.