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It so was. Any other movie would have made the stepdad evil or a dick but this made them have a perfectly normal relationship.For real that end scene at the dinner table was lovely.
It so was. Any other movie would have made the stepdad evil or a dick but this made them have a perfectly normal relationship.For real that end scene at the dinner table was lovely.
Theres also Michael Pena's line about how B&R always finds out. Then you later find out he was arrested for stealing two smoothie machines.
Great movie.
Anyone else get the Garrett Morris from SNL cameo?
in the whole world only you and this guy: http://birthmoviesdeath.com/2015/07/20/the-most-important-easter-egg-in-ant-man
I think this is referring to Cross' obsession over the tech.But Cross's brain was broken. Or something?
Pym's "I saw too much of myself in you" was hollow because we haven't seen any dark aspect of his own personality. The worst thing he ever did was to not really understand his daughter. The worst thing Cross did was endanger the stability of global geopolitics so he could make a quick buck. That's not just different in scale it's different in kind.
Great movie.
Anyone else get the Garrett Morris from SNL cameo?
Punching wasn't working. He wins by sacrificing himself. Otherwise, the punching doesn't work!Lang literally does win by punching Yellow Jacket's computer apart.
But more importantly, Lang and Cross aren't even on Pym's personality spectrum, they're all three orthogonal.
On bucks: Lang wants them so he can see his daughter; Cross just wants them period; Pym doesn't seem to care about them at all.
Both Pym and Lang want to reconcile with their daughters, there are just different things getting in the way. With Pym it's obviously his guilt over Jan, with Lang, it's his past. When I say that Lang and Cross are different sides of Pym, I don't mean their personalities are the same. They're metaphorical representations of Pym the ambitious scientist and Pym the alienated father.On family: Lang wants to do right for his daughter; Cross is angry that his mentor-father didn't trust him; Pym is mis-guidedly guilty about his wife's death.
I don't think Lang wants to take power, he just wants to protect people. The same applies to Pym. Cross is the only one who wants power but again, not just for the sake of power but moreso to achieve superiority over the man who rejected him. That's why he tells Lang his very existence is insulting because Pym chose Lang over him.On power: Lang wants to take it from people who have it; Cross wants to have it; Pym wants to prevent people from getting it in the first place. This one is interesting vis a vis The Avengers: Lang destroys one (if temporarily), Cross just doesn't really consider them except perhaps as something to perhaps, Pym maintains an insistent isolation from them.
So yeah. By the time Cross dons the Yellow Jacket, what does he even represent besides cackling evil? And what does it represent for Lang to oppose him? Specifically, Lang's whole "getting a second chance" thing is a thematic disaster since he straight up ices a dude who's not even in his right mind.
Punching wasn't working. He wins by sacrificing himself. Otherwise, the punching doesn't work!
Lang wants stability which Pym offers but really, money isn't a driving factor at all in this movie. Cross doesn't want money for the sake of having money, he wants power and he wants to rub it in Pym's face. That's why he invites him to the unveilings and brags about how much profit he's going to make through the company - not because the money matters but because he wants to stick it to Pym. Pym himself doesn't care about money because he already has it.
Both Pym and Lang want to reconcile with their daughters, there are just different things getting in the way. With Pym it's obviously his guilt over Jan, with Lang, it's his past. When I say that Lang and Cross are different sides of Pym, I don't mean their personalities are the same. They're metaphorical representations of Pym the ambitious scientist and Pym the alienated father.
I don't think Lang wants to take power, he just wants to protect people. The same applies to Pym. Cross is the only one who wants power but again, not just for the sake of power but moreso to achieve superiority over the man who rejected him. That's why he tells Lang his very existence is insulting because Pym chose Lang over him.
Cross is Pym before he realized what the Pym particle could cost him. Bold, ambitious, and a self proclaimed adventurer. Of course, any of the good aspects of those traits are twisted because Cross is also a sociopath. Pym sees the scientist he once was in Cross, even if it is a distorted image. I think the whole particles messing with his head was a bit of mistake since it takes away some of Cross' sense of agency and autonomy. Lang icing him though, I'm totally OK with. The man was about to waste his daughter. Mentally ill or not, that gets you put down.
There was a second end credits scene? Dammit I missed it.
There was a second end credits scene? Dammit I missed it.
It was pretty weak. It was like a sequel to the movie's last scene. Turns out Falcon is looking for Ant-man because he wants Ant-man to fix Bucky's arm or something? The whole Ant-man / Falcon "relationship" was super poorly-sketched though so who knows.
http://youtu.be/0248pUAteWkGuys. Guys.
Civil War is gonna be off fuckin the chain
I'm sure it's been posted but this is amazing.
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man imagine if the pym particle is made public, you could have portable ps4, smartphones can get way higher capacities battery, no need to look for parking space anymore, just zap them and take it to your pocket. no more expensive overseas shipping, storage won't be a problem anymore.
I think it might be worth it for the world even if Hydra got a hold of them, lol
This is pretty much how my brain reacts when it thinks of Civil War:Guys. Guys.
Civil War is gonna be off fuckin the chain
Much like AoU, it improved for me on repeat viewing when I could anticipate story beats. I'm weird though in that when I tend to rewatch movies a lot.I really really like the third act, but everything building up to it is yawn-inducing. I like Douglas and Stoll though. Not feeling many rewatches on this one, sadly.
I'm sure it's been posted but this is amazing.
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Is there any place in particular that lists the differences between the Wright script and this one?Yeah I think Cross had plenty of defined motivation and the fact that he was Hank's "fallen son" made him more of a tragic figure than just being a one-off evil suit.
Reflecting on what's been said about the script changes I don't think I would have been crazy about Wright's Ant-Man. Only a passing mention of Janet and no microverse stuff - Wright certainly would have had his unique visual flair added to the film but in terms of world building it would have been sorely lacking. The trip into the microverse is a massive hint at what makes Ant-Man really stand out amongst other heroes. It's a major part of the comic's DNA and would have been a mistake to omit. Just like Iron Man has his high tech suits, Thor has Asgard and Strange has his magical realms, the microverse is a crucial part of the Ant-Man mythos and it actually bothers me that Wright's script apparently didn't even bring it up.
Janet getting trapped in the microverse and making Hank obsessed with keeping Hope out of the suit really added to their story and made the mid-credits scene feel truly earned.
I'm sure it's been posted but this is amazing.
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I thought one of the funniest things in the movie wasn't even a direct joke but when Anthony first flew in how it was edited like a helicopter from some war movie.
I'm sure it's been posted but this is amazing.
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Hank just said that being Ant-Man took a toll on him. My reading of that scene was that it's meant to make you think he's talking about the biological/neurological effects of using Pym particles, but that he's actually talking about Janet, and that losing his wife when he was Ant-Man prompted him to hang it up.
Hope is still a good character but the kiss at the end feels just as forced as Quill's and Gamora's kiss in Guardians.
I do like that family is cool with Lang as Antman, especially the boyfriend of Greer. Feels quite refreshing in a weird way.
I hope they give both Scott and Hope different love interests in the future films. Don't turn the heroine into just the hero's girlfriend. Make her more of a separate entity.
I hope they give both Scott and Hope different love interests in the future films. Don't turn the heroine into just the hero's girlfriend. Make her more of a separate entity.
No way are they going to ignore the image of Ant-Man and Wasp - it's far too iconic for the characters. Only difference is they're going to try and rejigger Hope into Janet's role, which'll be weird.
Guys, it's a Marvel movie. Always stick around until after the final credits.
For some reason, I thought they were gonna half ass the visuals for this movie. Glad I was wrong. I kept on being take aback about how gorgeous this movie was. Definitely gonna watch it once more but this time in 3d. I heard the 3d effects are too good to miss.
Cant believe that people still went out early in Marvel movies.
So yeah. By the time Cross dons the Yellow Jacket, what does he even represent besides cackling evil? And what does it represent for Lang to oppose him? Specifically, Lang's whole "getting a second chance" thing is a thematic disaster since he straight up ices a dude who's not even in his right mind.
There's no reason at all for him to hold back the big revelation -- that Janet sacrificed herself to stop nuclear war -- from Hope. Like how does keeping her in the dark about that serve to protect her from anything at all?
It so was. Any other movie would have made the stepdad evil or a dick but this made them have a perfectly normal relationship.
I agree it could have been written better, but for what it's worth this is what I saw. In the Yellowjacket showcase room, Cross shows disgust at the fact that Pym chose Scott and not him to share his Ant-Man secrets with. What seem like generic lines at first ("I'm gonna show you just how insignificant you are..") during the final fight now seem more like the continued theme of Cross and his ego, always trying to impress and now overtake his mentor. Lang "insults" Cross who obviously feels he's the better man and is willing to prove it to Hank by taking out the "idiot", as he calls him. Granted Cross is kind of nuts by that point but that's how it felt to me. Lang's "second chance" is more vague but I feel still intact since the deal was to help Pym stop the spread of Yellowjacket technology into the world. Scott is just dealing with Cross constantly upping the stakes due to his deteriorating mental state, up and until he threatens his daughter, the very thing he's fighting for in the first place.