Oh thanks!
Well... 65-ish in '89? If that's true Peggy was just 21 in '45. Yeah that's a bit too young.
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Well... 65-ish in '89? If that's true Peggy was just 21 in '45. Yeah that's a bit too young.
I actually prefer the design of the woman's shirt. Just switch the designs and I would actually get it.
Also, Peggy seems like the type to go to war early.
You got me curious about ant-man shirts. I just picked up this one.
I'm a sucker for fictional company Ts
darkwing-buck
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How much strength does Ant-Man have when he shrinks?
Marvel has Peggy born in '21, so she'd be 24 in Cap 1 and 68 in Ant-Man.
I got the blueprint one, wore it to the movie twice. Still need to get a Guardians shirt.
The Yellowjacket prototype was seemingly destroyed and IIRC the only people to get their hands on it were HYRDA while the rest of Pym Industries was destroyed, right? I think it would be cool to have that connection but I doubt it.
Peyton Reed said they used the same people that did the effect for skinny Steve, complete with a younger body double for Michael Douglas that copied all this mannerisms.
Pretty cool that building some convincing CGI involved working in some practical shots.
Just saw it tonight and loved it. I went in with the lowest expectations of any Marvel film (thanks to the poor trailers and my meh reaction to Age of Ultron), but it exceeded them admirably. The villain was a little underwhelming, but that's par for the course with the Marvel films, sadly. That final credit sequence... hopefully we get to see the lead up in Civil War.
Also, did the main Hydra guy escape with Cross' version of the Pym Particle? I remember he was in the vault but nothing after that.
Also, did the main Hydra guy escape with Cross' version of the Pym Particle? I remember he was in the vault but nothing after that.
I believe the way it works in the MCU is that he retains his full human strength, so when he's small, he can still pick up a chair, throw a guy, etc. However, since his density is increased so dramatically, he winds up with superhuman durability (allowing him to survive those huge falls) and the force he exerts on things is increased (allowing him to jump, or requiring him to pull his punches or else he'll blow through someone).
victreeb3l
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Enjoyed this movie. RIP anthony 
*pours one out*
*pours one out*
Well the thing they say is he shrinks by moving his molecules closer together. So then he weighs as much shrunk as large, his mass is the same. Which makes everything else stupid: ants survive falls because they're light and have low terminal velocity, Ant-man would have stupid-high terminal velocity, strictly higher than a human's. Also he can't go subatomic...
So really the movie doesn't have an explanation for his powers, there is nothing even almost physically real happening here, it's just magic.
"Pulling punches" is a joke, that obviously wouldn't do anything the impact point is still pin-sized. But dude's arms are short so he probably wouldn't puncture through the subcutaneous fat. The only way Ant-man could hurt a human would be to stand on their shoulder and punch through their carotid? But even then the puncture would maybe be small enough it would clot...
Or else wear a WWI German helmet and jump to use himself as a bullet lol.
breadtruck
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Oh come on now bucko, it aint all doom and gloom.
While Marvel movies are pretty much formulamatic, this movie was quite entertaining.
Hyperactivity
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Watched the movie today. Liked it. It was much better than I was expecting
Felt like the middle took a little etoo long at times, but the 3rd act was pretty great
One thing that bothered me was that they did a really shitty job at portraying how painful bullet ant stings are. Sure, they mentioned that it's the most painful sting, but when characters were bitten by them they were just twitching, and Cross just sort of grabbed the bullet ant after it bit him and crushed it.
This is what bullet ants are like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEWmynRcEEQ
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraponera_clavata
Felt like the middle took a little etoo long at times, but the 3rd act was pretty great
One thing that bothered me was that they did a really shitty job at portraying how painful bullet ant stings are. Sure, they mentioned that it's the most painful sting, but when characters were bitten by them they were just twitching, and Cross just sort of grabbed the bullet ant after it bit him and crushed it.
This is what bullet ants are like:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEWmynRcEEQ
Wikipedia said:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paraponera_clavata
No, you're the first one to crack the code.
MidnightPass
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kind of wish Marvel would of discussed more about Hank's bipolar disorder, that would of been interesting
Is this a theory or is he confirmed as Bipolar?
Scientist Supreme!
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Uh, ok.
And are there any books that revolve around this? Beside just a mention I mean?
Scientist Supreme!
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Not really, its only brought up and introduced in Avengers A.I.
Pai Pai Master
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Seems like a lot to put on MCU Hank when he's not the star of the film and has a long history already. They basically took his darker side and made that Cross, which was a neat way to do it and point it out in the movie as Cross and Lang being the two sides of Hank Pym.
Maybe they'll go back and do more with it but I think it works fine to just have him be a paranoid shut-in because of his dealing with the loss of Janet over the years.
Pym's always had mental issues, but I think it was Avengers AI when it was specifically called out as bipolar disorder by The Vision
MidnightPass
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one thing though that i been wanting to know?
was Pym's mental illness the reason Ultron went rogue, because i believe Pym used his brainwaves to pattern ultron's behavior
thats not really a good portrayal of mental illness
was Pym's mental illness the reason Ultron went rogue, because i believe Pym used his brainwaves to pattern ultron's behavior
thats not really a good portrayal of mental illness
Thats kinda sad... But wanted to look into Avengers AI anyway, maybe I will pick it up.
Scientist Supreme!
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It was based on pym's brainwaves. I would say it was pym's personality combined with the whole 'robots think in extremes" thing.
MidnightPass
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ok i see..
im really interested in Hank Pym...i always felt that he was pretty much on Reed's level when it came to scientific understanding, and like a few of you mentioned Hank is the scientist supreme, because of his ability to make science like magic
is Hank going to be any books for the upcoming All-New, All Different Marvel line up?
Scientist Supreme!
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I second that. Rage of ULTRON is a very good pym, vision, and ultron story.
Pai Pai Master
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Yeah Rage of Ultron is set in the post-Secret Wars canon. If you want to know what's up with Hank then you need to read it.
Good book too, albiet a bit rushed to make it to print before the movie hit.
Good book too, albiet a bit rushed to make it to print before the movie hit.
Hyperactivity
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Ultron was great, what are you guys talking about
How I feel whenever someone else mentions they liked Ultron in AoU:
...at least on gaf
Hyperactivity
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Actually, with Spideyverse joining the MCU, Marvel should have a slection from what is considered one of the best rogue galleries of any super-hero, right?
Freewheelin'
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Stoll and Spader put in better performances than Hiddlestone.
Pai Pai Master
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I like Ultron but he's nothing like his comics version, and that's the kinda villain I wanted.
But in the context of the film he works wonderfully.
But in the context of the film he works wonderfully.
Mighty Chin
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Finally. Another one gone. Marvel Be Worried Now.
Mighty Chin
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I didn't know it was post SW.
I thought Ultron was great in AoU. I sometimes think people just want a generic, talk in a synthetic, Vulcan -esque monotone killbot. I loved Spader's Ultron as an arrogant, megalomiacal child modeled after RDJ's Stark. He was fun everytime he was on screen.There arent only two ways to portray an antagonist : Loki and Ledger's Joker. Now, Ronan from GotG was boring. Eccleston in Thor 2 was boring. Whiplash, Sam Rockwell, Loki, Ultron, Red Skull, Winter Soldier , Obediah, and Cross are actually fine, entertaining antagonists, even if many of them just want to rule or obtain some kind of powerful artifact/technology. This "Marvel has shitty villains except for Loki" shit has reached "PS3 has no games" level of foolishness for me, personally.How I feel whenever someone else mentions they liked Ultron in AoU:
...at least on gaf
brandonh83
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Saw it again today and thought it was better on a second viewing. I liked it a lot the first time but I think it's going to be a good rewatchable movie. I'll be honest I didn't even notice Hayley in the opening the first time.
Co-signed.
Hi res Wasp suit.
Still pretty small.
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