Apple holding special event Oct. 16 (new iPads, iMacs, and Yosemite)

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I'll be good with my Air for at least another year so the main thing I'm looking forward to is the official release of Yosemite. Loving the beta but I want to get the complete version on my Mac that I just bought.
 
jts said:
How does one get a non-Retina iPad Air, Abed?

j/k m8. It doesn't exist. You were probably thinking about the mini?
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Yeah. Guess what. I'm an idiot. Air. Mini. Whatever.

Okay. Then the point still stands. That Air will be fine for a long time. And if he did just upgrade, you can return it if you really want to within what, 14 days?
 
Rodney McKay said:
New Apple TVs would be cool!

My friend has the last one and it's kind of a pain to use; slow, typing out stuff sucks, and randomly stops streaming and requires a reboot. The app for Netflix specifically is one of the worst versions of Netflix I've used.
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Wow, you've never used Netflix interface on Blu-Ray players where you had to put a movie into your queue on your PC so that you could watch it on your Blu-Ray player?

What's so bad about Netflix on Apple TV? I have both ATV and Roku and it's about the same for both imho
 
Curious to see what they come out with. I bought an iPad Air last year and have to say it's been the one and only tablet I have ever owned that fell in love with and didn't return/sell and I've had a lot.

The only thing I would really want that would make me consider upgrading is more RAM. Sorry Apple but 1GB does not cut it and it's annoying to have stuff force close all the time because of it. TouchID which I'm sure is coming would be great as well though not as useful as on my phone. The rest of the stuff is gravy but we will have to see.

Those supposed high res displays for the Macs sound great but let's see if they include cards powerful enough to drive them. I stayed away from the Mac Pro R 13 because of that card struggling to run the display.
 
If they can shave the new iPad air down to ~.8 lbs I might bite. My main use for a tablet is going to be reading, comics specifically, and I've found the current retina mini at .75 lbs to feel good for extended one handed use. Roughly that weight with the larger screen would be perfect.
 
Durask said:
What's so bad about Netflix on Apple TV? I have both ATV and Roku and it's about the same for both imho
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Well, the ATV app tends to get updated later than most other hardware; it got profiles later than other hardware, it got the auto-play-the-next-ep later than other hardware, the interface is dull and not slick at all, it's less responsive that the modern console apps. Just kinda meh. I say this as someone who primarily uses an ATV to watch Netflix.

(Also, not Apple's fault, but because apps don't update independent of the OS, it's impossible to keep a jailbroken XBMC ATV while still getting a modern version of Netflix)
 
toohectic said:
Front glass, digitizer, and LCD are all glued (laminated) together as one piece resulting in a thinner, better looking screen. They already do this on the iPhones.
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Does the new Moto X have a laminated screen as well? I was looking at phones yesterday, and the only two displays that truly stood out were the iPhone 6's display along with the Moto X's. The screens on both devices just seemed to float on top of the actual device, and simply looked incredible.
 
Cse said:
Does the new Moto X have a laminated screen as well? I was looking at phones yesterday, and the only two displays that truly stood out were the iPhone 6's display along with the Moto X's. The screens on both devices just seemed to float on top of the actual device, and simply looked incredible.
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Pretty much all phones are laminated, same with most tablets now. I'm seriously surprised it took Apple so long to do it for their tablet line, it makes such a huge difference when it comes to visual clarity.

Here's a video of the supposed mockup https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wq3ReTbY89k
 
outsidah said:
The only thing I would really want that would make me consider upgrading is more RAM. Sorry Apple but 1GB does not cut it and it's annoying to have stuff force close all the time because of it.
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I bought an air last year when they came out and that is the reason i returned it. They really need to go with at least two, but i won't be suprised when the announce only one just like the iphone 6.
 
toohectic said:
Front glass, digitizer, and LCD are all glued (laminated) together as one piece resulting in a thinner, better looking screen. They already do this on the iPhones.
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This will probably also lower that "screen drumming" sound, which became more noticeable on the iPad Air obviously, with thinner glass while keeping the air gap there..

I don't know if I personally dislike this "thin screen feeling" (obv. a rather superficial part of the experience) but going from an iPad Air to say, a 4th generation (with a thicker glass counter-acting the effect I guess), there's certainly this undeniably more "granite surface" like feel to touching the screen. I personally tap quite violently during typing so I'll probably enjoy a return to that, lol.
 
Can't wait to install Yosemite on the primary partition, use it for eight months and then ditch it for the newly announced version.

It might seem sarcastic but i really can't wait.
 
I'm gonna need a helluva reason to upgrade my iPad 4. It's not slow, none of the apps randomly crash because of a lack of memory.

Thinner and lighter won't be enough unless it's shedding like half the weight (which it won't). Will watch, but...gonna need more than usual this time around.

Yosemite on the other hand...can't wait for that. But I'll wait until I'm sure all my apps are compatible.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
I'm gonna need a helluva reason to upgrade my iPad 4. It's not slow, none of the apps randomly crash because of a lack of memory.

Thinner and lighter won't be enough unless it's shedding like half the weight (which it won't). Will watch, but...gonna need more than usual this time around.
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From what I've tried also, the iPad 4 seemed a very solid experience alone from the fact of memory performance (I guess maybe from the lack of that 64-bit memory penalty Anandtech wrote about?) In my experience, comparing an iPad 4 to iPad Air, the iPad 4 apparently did a much better job retaning web page content, and apps in the background. (I did not test too exhaustively though.)

I personally only re-bought the newer iPad Air model because I found an extremely (as in, disproportionally) cheap one. At the right price everything has value of course, lol. I was very close to switching to some Android device, ultraportable laptop, or indeed downgrading back to 4th gen, after initially dumping the 5th gen iPad due to this apparent user experience recession.

You're probably very good to go with that model, I guess the worst that can happen is Apple locking split-screen multitasking to the 6th gen model.
 
Wads said:
I bought an air last year when they came out and that is the reason i returned it. They really need to go with at least two, but i won't be suprised when the announce only one just like the iphone 6.
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This was my biggest issue with it too. If they don't do 2gb ram I will continue to wait.
 
Dreams-Visions said:
I'm gonna need a helluva reason to upgrade my iPad 4. It's not slow, none of the apps randomly crash because of a lack of memory.

Thinner and lighter won't be enough unless it's shedding like half the weight (which it won't). Will watch, but...gonna need more than usual this time around.

Yosemite on the other hand...can't wait for that. But I'll wait until I'm sure all my apps are compatible.
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Do we have the same iPad 4? Cause mine's heavy as shit and generally uncomfortable to hold.
 
The new iPad Air will be miiiiiiine

I was one of those detractors of the idea of a tablet so many years ago, but the more I play with them in stores and at family/friend's houses the more I want one
 
BLOCKBUSTER EXCLUSIVE: This Is The iPad Air 2 - http://themichaelreport.com/2014/10/06/this-is-the-ipad-air-2/

Two researchers working for The Michael Report have obtained pictures and illustrations of the new iPads from sources within Apple, and have been able to independently verify both the design and the specifications to be true. As with all things Apple, there’s no doubt that they may change some minor details before the keynote… however, because we’ve heard that they’re already producing these new iPads at a large-scale, it’s unlikely that they’d make any drastic changes – which means that it’s almost 100% likely that the product we’ve seen is of the actual product.

EDITOR’S NOTE: We’ve made the editorial decision to not publish the pictures and illustrations we’ve seen out of an abundance of caution in protecting the identity of our sources within Apple. We will, however, attempt to describe what we’ve seen as accurately as possible in words.

Display:

Produced by TPK, GIS, Sharp, Samsung and LG (among a few others, we’re sure), the new iPad Airs will come with a fully-laminated display (this is done by manufacturing the cover glass and Retina LCD as a single unit – something they have done with the iPhone for years), which means that it’ll be quite a bit thinner than the current iPad Air. Along with this improvement in manufacturing technique, the quality of the screens should improve too (although we’re not sure if Apple is ready to make the jump to the iPhone 6 duo’s Retina HD screens just yet).

Design:

This is where it gets interesting: although there are lots of minor design changes, it’s not going to look like it at the first glance. Based on what we’ve seen, the form function of the iPad Air 2 is identical to the current iPad Air’s and there are no changes in the bezel.

Looking at the two iPad Airs from the front, there are no changes that we could discern.

Due to the improvement in manufacturing technique (fully-laminated displays, as we talked about above), the iPad Air 2 is around 0.5 mm thinner than the current iPad Air… we’re hearing some whispers within Apple that they are going to market the new iPad Airs as the thinnest tablets on the market.

The speakers on the new iPad Airs have been re-engineered to take up a single row grill instead of the current two, and the holes are drilled to be slightly larger as a result (if you’ve got an iPhone 6/6 Plus, take a look at its speakers: it’s around that size, just ever so slightly larger).

The mute/vibration switch is completely gone in the new redesign, with sources from within Apple telling us that it was a necessary move to achieve the thinner profile of the new tablets.

The volume controls in the new iPad Airs are also slightly more recessed than the one on the current iPad Airs. Not a major change, but the change means that those volume buttons now blend in better with the contour of the new iPad Air.

The microphones on the iPad Air 2 have been relocated from the top of the iPad Air (where it currently is; within the antenna band) to next to the back camera modules. One of them is to the right of the camera module, the other is to the left – on the sides of the iPad Air.

Also, Apple will debut a gold colored version of the iPad Air 2, in addition to the current options of Black and Silver.

Cameras:

Both the ambient light sensor and the camera are in the same position in the new iPad Airs as they were in the current iPad Airs, although we’ve heard that Apple is upgrading the front-facing camera on the new iPad to FaceTime HD (with support for 720p video calling).

The camera on the back of the new iPad Air is getting an upgrade to 8 megapixels, instead of the current 5MP. This will result in faster, clearer and more detailed shots if you don’t mind looking ridiculous taking pictures with an iPad.

Internals:

The iPad Air 2 will come with an upgraded A8 chip manufactured by TMSC and a 1GB bump in RAM, to 2GB. Apart from that, the new processor is supposed to run more efficiently than the current A7 chips, which translates to longer battery life for the new iPad Airs.

As for storage options, we’re hearing that Apple might ditch the 16GB option for the new iPad Airs (the option might still be available for the iPad mini 3) and limit customers to the 32, 64 and 128GB variants.

Touch ID and Apple Pay:

Unsurprisingly, the iPad Air 2 will come with the long-awaited Touch ID scanner on the home button (we heard internal chatters within Apple that due to the high failure rate of these Touch IDs last year, they’ve re-engineered a lot of the components to make them more durable and accurate).

In conjunction with incorporating Touch IDs into the new iPad Airs, Apple is also launching Apple Pay for customers of the new iPads (ridiculousness of pulling out a 9.7-inch tablet in front of everyone to pay for something be damned). Sources say that even if Apple Pay isn’t announced at the keynote, it will be shortly after the event.

iPad Pro:

There has been lots of rumors that Apple might unveil a 12.9-inch iPad Pro in the near future. So far, we haven’t heard anything about it.

That’s all we’ve got for now. If what we’ve seen is indeed Apple’s next iPad Air, then it’s undoubtedly going to be a winner for a consumer base that’s currently stagnant.

We can’t wait.
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Community Forum said:
Yayyyyyy time to upgrade my iPad 4 (although it is working fine). Figure why not since it's basically my main computer. Crazy that I made fun of iPads when they first came out.

I've also never owned an Apple TV and I've always wanted one, so if there is a new one I'll get that too.

Does Apple usually do preorders like they do with iPhones? Like the whole go live at midnight type thing?
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If the iPad is your main computer an Apple TV would be a great idea if you want to stream some content to a bigger screen.
 
"The mute/vibration switch is completely gone in the new redesign, with sources from within Apple telling us that it was a necessary move to achieve the thinner profile of the new tablets."

downgrade confirmed
 
Zane said:
"The mute/vibration switch is completely gone in the new redesign, with sources from within Apple telling us that it was a necessary move to achieve the thinner profile of the new tablets."

downgrade confirmed
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Seriously. First we had to complain so Apple could keep the option to use the switch as a rotation lock and now they take it away completely. Are there any good ux designers left at Apple/
 
Zane said:
"The mute/vibration switch is completely gone in the new redesign, with sources from within Apple telling us that it was a necessary move to achieve the thinner profile of the new tablets."

downgrade confirmed
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http://www.macrumors.com/2014/10/06/ipad-air-2-circulating-rumors/

For example, the site suggests that the second-generation iPad Air 2 will do away with the mute switch to "achieve [a] thinner profile," but that is likely an erroneous conclusion based on the unfinished design of the circulating dummy units rather than a legitimate leak as claimed by the site. On the iPad Air 2 dummy units, there is indeed a hole where the mute switch would normally be located. The Michael Report suggests this may be a microphone, but more likely, it is a pilot hole marking the location for the mute switch. Similar pilot holes have been seen for larger physical features such as SIM card trays in other dummy units and unfinished prototypes.
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Really hope the 2GB RAM thing is true though, that'd be nice.
 
LCfiner said:
it’s a launch 2012 model, 8GB RAM with the larger 512 GB SSD. I think I can get over 1500 for it. we’ll see. prices for this model refurbed on the apple store are still quite high at ~$1900.
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I regret buying the macbook air i should of spent a little more for the retina, i bought the air when it was 1300 dollar laptop ;_;

According to the internet, The ipad air 2014 won't get 2 gigabytes of ram due to supply constraints.
 
Maninthemirror said:
Honestly apart from the Ram upgrade I don't feel that is a compelling upgrade to be honest over an Air
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If it was i'm sure people would be pissed that they've got a largely inferior product. Why do people look or even want to upgrade such an expensive device every year?

I'm yet to bite on an iPad, maybe it's time.
 
If the rumors about the ram end up being true, I'm going from iPad 3 to a Gold iPad Air 2. I'm not sure about the GB yet. If 32 is the minimum, I can go with that. If it's 16 and the next jump is 64, I'm going with 64.
 
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