Sir Abacus
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Uhhhh... The CTO M295X is level with a GTX 980M in performance.
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Apple Special Event - 10.16.14 - "It's been way too long"
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Uhhhh... The CTO M295X is level with a GTX 980M in performance.
I'm in Canada, no refurbs on our store.
Thunderbolt can't drive that res yet.
darkside31337
Tomodachi wa Mahou
Do refurbs come with iOS 8 preinstalled? Thinking about buying a 32 gb Mini 2 on Apple's website but evidently it runs poorly on a Mini 2 (from what I've heard from some friends) although I have no idea how accurate or overstated that is.
CrudeDiatribe
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It's the drive in your 2010 that makes it slow. I guess the CPU, memory, and GPU might also not be enough for what you want to use a computer for, but it's probably the HDD. I spend most of my work related computer time writing, and now that my 2010 mini has an SSD, I really don't find a difference between it and my i7 equipped MacBook Air or 8-core Mac Pro.
A 7200 RPM 2.5" drive still isn't fast.
Sutton Dagger
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I seriously wonder why they don't make the imac thicker in the back (it used to be) and actually put a desktop GPU in there? Does it really matter about how thin the monitor is? The display is gorgeous but it's completely undesirable for people who even want light gaming at native res, at least put in the new mobile nvidia 900 series if you're going to use crappy laptop parts in a desktop.
It's not just size, it's power consumption and heat signature - both of which are substantial in desktop GPUs. Price will be a factor as well.
As has been said, people don't generally buy Mac products primarily for gaming.
Let's see how the R295M handles it.
Sutton Dagger
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For an extra $300 AUD on an already expensive product, the nvidia cards should have been standard for that sort of cash.
See my response above for what I think about it in general.
If I can play a little WoW and D3 at native res I'll be happy.
Sir Abacus
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Thunderbolt 2 is about 12gbps short to drive 5K @ 60Hz.
Which basically means the mac mini (and MBPs) aren't futureproof. They probably won't be able to support the inevitable Thunderbolt display. The Mac mini update turned out to be very disappointing; still no SSD or Fusion Drive default and now non-upgradeable RAM?! wtf? *sigh*
Iacobellis
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As you just said, the BTO GPU.
Is there some kind of magic limit on how many things they can upgrade?!
ChrisMahoney
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So in other words, the new Mac Mini is the perfect Media Center PC?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Is it really like that, or is it just that we're always literally limited by the human hours and materials we have? I find that's a much more logical explanation than thinking Apple purposely wants a product to be shit because it sold too much before.
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Deleted member 22576
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uhhh.. yes.
To think people would want to work for a company that would do that, too.
It's quite logical that Apple wouldn't want to update the Mini because it 'sold too much' since it has lower margins that the Air. There may be other reasons of course but you have too much faith in a supposed good nature of Apple. They are capitalists duh
Napoleonthechimp
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Those mobile components they shove into the iMacs make a 5k version less than ideal.
I find that hard to believe honestly. A company as huge as apple can't find time in the day to slightly upgrade the insides of the iPad mini. They somehow found the time to upgrade it with TouchID.
TheDarkKnight774
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Any word on the Air 2 Ram?
So I've been waiting for the mac mini update on purpose in case they bring out better stuff and I get punished by and not being able to buy one with a quad core i7 processor like I originally wanted to because they took that option out. Nice!
The iMac is fucking nice but it's not worth buying for me.
The iMac is fucking nice but it's not worth buying for me.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Their design team is ridiculously small. It's only 17 people. Ive talked about this in the recent interview he did, and he said no one's ever voluntarily left the team. So that's how many people worked on all of these new big products they've unveiled this fall.
From the company who cannibalizes their own market leading products...
How did you figure out how much time they've spent doing everything else to make this assessment?
I'm sure people that own the last model with Quad cores will be selling them off in droves. Look around, I'm sure you'll be able to find one for a better price then what you would have paid. It's still a win for you.
How did you figure out how they didn't have enough time? It's not like it's one guy upgrading everything in the company here...
Chiggs
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That's a tough spot. Craigslist is loaded with tons of overpriced iMacs that just sit there because the owners won't budge.
Good news for you: that's still a damn good machine.
$1700.00 - $1900.00
infiniteloop
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Sir Abacus
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You do realize a mobile chip is far pricier than its desktop equivalent, right? AUD$300 to go from a M290 to a cutting edge M295X with almost identical performance to a 980M is entirely reasonable.
I don't mind spending a bit more because that means I can definitely get AppleCare too which is a must.
Plus I'd get a very nice discount anyway so I would have been better off buying the old one.
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You can already order them.
I'm not the one making the assertion they had time to do more. Turns out that time is a limited resource.
With 80K people working for you, it shouldn't be that big a deal.
wtf does this even mean? Of course it's possible that time is a factor but it's also possible that they didn't update the Mini for business reasons
I don't think you can (in the US anyway). It says "currently unavailable" to me, and "Online ordering begins October 17th", which I assume means midnight, but I'm not sure.
Gamecocks625
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First time in over a decade we don't have updated iPods. Kind of sad but the current reality of the market.
Bob Dobalina
Member
"Not enough time" to properly update a product that gets refreshed once a year is the kind of defense I'd expect from a macrumors comment section, not you guys. Come on now.
Ken Masters
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Why didn't they give the exact release date of the iPad air 2?
You're witnessing that it is. Software is also a pretty big deal as differentiating factor.
If you don't understand what I'm talking about about cannibalization we don't have any common ground to start from. They're also going to be consuming 25% of the world's DRAM, and their priority for components is iPhones and premium iPads. If the rumors of 2GB RAM are true, maybe there's not enough RAM in the world to keep them in lockstep. They only did that once and it was likely to get to Retina on the mini. That's a much better "business reason."
You don't know the terms you're dealing with. The original mini was an iPad 2 after all.
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