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April Wrasslin' |OT| A Max Landis Production
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Officerrob
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Hogan didn't get shit on for that stuff either, it was a different time
Brian_FETO
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LOL Ambrose didn't even get to use the crowbar he'd been teasing for weeks. Wow
So that's 3 "equalizers" that didn't get used. Hopefully it'll all get resolved at 'Mani-oh, wait....
All I wanted was Brock to bend the crowbar in half. Would be amazing. Kendo stick was close but less effective
So that's 3 "equalizers" that didn't get used. Hopefully it'll all get resolved at 'Mani-oh, wait....
All I wanted was Brock to bend the crowbar in half. Would be amazing. Kendo stick was close but less effective
Bluekaveli
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Russo, what's going on dude? What if Flair has a nose bleed from being in the cage above the ring
Clearly the kids weren't loud enough.
I'm saying it would be the same if that happened back in the day. It didn't.
Having an old guy (in this case he isn't even an active wrestler) beat young talent isn't good for anyone. Putting The Rock above everyone isn't helping anyone.
It's ridiculous I agree. Dismissing someone's opinion like that contributes nothing to the discussion either.
Officerrob
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Yep, you didn't see Hogan and Warriors limited moveset every fucking Monday night. You gotta be more diverse in the ring these days because you are severely overexposed
There were probably adults that were like "who is this zero workrate dickhead, Bockwinkel would stretch him in a second" but that 100% was not what WWF was going for at the time, which is probably why it works.
There's also the fact that by the time Warrior was done in WWF in 96, consumer internet was a "new" thing, so people were using it to get low-quality jpgs of the Pink Ranger instead of bitching about wrasslin.
Also the notion of almost all WWF TV being taped means not as much in the way of unfiltered crowd reaction. People were tired of Warrior shortly after his second run started in 92. In 96 it feels like he fell off even quicker, even though I still enjoyed seeing him on the show.
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Deleted member 47027
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Man, Bockwinkel in his prime dealing with Warrior would be interesting. Bock would do whatever the fuck he wanted to.
Dick Justice
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I've said it before. "Smark" is now pretty much used to say "I disagree with you". Most people calling other people smarks are fucking smarks themselves anyway.
It doesn't need to raise the bar, it just needs to realize what it really is: it's dumb shit for people who are looking for a fun and silly escape. If they want to watch legit fighting, they'll go see... whatever one of those shows is. UFC, I guess.
Haha, yeah. Just the mental image is pretty amusing. I liked Warrior and all, but Nick would've made him look silly out there.
Exactly. Everyone here is a "smark".
But it's just a dismiss way to treat the other person. WWE is just a TV show and you are either entertained by the people there or you aren't. There isn't any ulterior motives here.
oh the were
What am I looking at?
WWE doesn't need to go crazy over the top in order to be successful, it just needs storytelling that isn't insultingly stupid to your intelligence. If there's one common link between Lucha Underground and NXT, it's that they have competent storytelling and things make sense when they happen.
I mean, Hogan did get booed but it wasn't because of his moves. He was doing dickish things and lots of fans were catching onto it, hence the Sid Vicious elimination to him in the '92 Rumble and fans cheering it. Warrior is a different matter. Even in '96 he was still hugely over.
From the pre-Wrestlemania conference call, it seems like more and more people are being signed with the ultimate goal of being NXT guys. Moving to the main roster is there as a possibility, but they're building NXT as a brand and need stability.
Bluekaveli
Member
He is right.
It's entertainment and the storylines are basically non existing. If you give compelling stories than people will enjoy the product more. Also swerves need to be there as long as they make sense.
WrestleMania was a 5 hour show and if you go 20 min match after 20 min match, they crowd will get tired. So that's why you have the battle royals and as much as people hate it, The Rock's segments. Those things break up that "just wrestling". Sometimes a good story and ten minutes of wrestling is fine.
Also, the attention span of people is smaller now than it has ever been. Sometimes I wonder how we keep our crowd engaged during theatrical shows now. Really, I do. We talk about possibly allowing them to use their phones in the theatre now simply because they always want to be connected and engaged.
But Russo is right, this is coming from a journalist and theatre perspective.
I hope so. My hope right now is that NXT makes enough money to keep people and have them earn enough money.
Keep growing NXT is something that I'm all for.
the only thing that matters, money
sf2fanatic
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Gaf was great during Shane's jump. Felt like we were there
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Deleted member 47027
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I would have been fine with that, but at least he got to be on the card. CORBINNNNN
Is it wrong that part of me hated having HBK and Stone Cold back in the ring for such a shit segment?
I didn't care about Foley as much because we'll never get another match out of him. But HBK and Stone Cold can still give us something.....why not save seeing the stunner and superkick again for that something?
I didn't care about Foley as much because we'll never get another match out of him. But HBK and Stone Cold can still give us something.....why not save seeing the stunner and superkick again for that something?
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Deleted member 47027
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That's no surprise. Man, having those three come out and do their signature spots were great. It's obvious Foley will never wrestle again in his life, and Stone Cold is 100% done considering how fat and out of shape he is, but HBK was in shockingly good shape. Great segment. I loved it.
Totally disagree, they could have got that winning as well, easily.
LoN needed this, badly. They have an easy rapport with each other too, and it shows. Great group of folks.
It is not just his winning as a whole to me, it is his winning after kicking out of the Clash and then now going out and saying Styles was never in his league and they are done.
Which means that either Styles looks like a chump, or now Styles has to again chase Jericho for a match with Jericho saying no no no until it happens.
Either way again, Styles is tied up with Jericho for a week, two weeks or hell the way WWE does things maybe until Summer Slam.
There are better people I want to see Styles against.
TarpitCarnivore
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Jesus, Wade Keller calling Reigns an embarassment right off the bat on the post show
I mean, don't get me wrong, I marked out because it's fucking Austin and HBK. Also yeah, I was surprised at how in-shape HBK looked. I was also kind of surprised that he came out in his full wrestling attire
God damn. Of all people he is usually the most willing to give WWE leeway on their decisions.
Styles losing to Jericho still perplexes me. I will never understand that.
Are we about to get another month build for Jericho vs Styles at WWE Rehash PPV next month? If so, jesus christ kill me. They are going to ruin AJ's pops by repeating the same matches with him constantly.
Are we about to get another month build for Jericho vs Styles at WWE Rehash PPV next month? If so, jesus christ kill me. They are going to ruin AJ's pops by repeating the same matches with him constantly.
Agreed. Plus didn't New Day win every interaction between the two leading up to Wrestlemania?
You're not going to see intergender for a long time in the WWE now due to sponsors and well, sexism.
I'd like to see it done, because it's pretend fake characters, but WWE can't do it right so I'd rather they not even try anymore. It only worked before because the wrestlers would book it themselves.
Current WWE has women that should be able to hold themselves up against certain guys suddenly turning completely useless if they're in the ring at the same time because Vince is so fucking scared of a woman even looking anywhere near competitive vs men. They even forced the video games to always rate the women lower than the men. The lowest tier enhancement talent got rated higher than Beth Pheonix.. fuck off, Vince.
Jericho beating Styles is this year's Triple H beating Sting. It made absolutely zero sense story wise and probably only happened because Vince still has a hardon for making sure WWE looks strong.
British Monsoon
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Jumbo gonna knock you out;
Taue hit that first lariat so hard the impact put himself off balance;
Look at the goddamn rotation on the moonsault, how the hell...
Taue hit that first lariat so hard the impact put himself off balance;
Look at the goddamn rotation on the moonsault, how the hell...
Yep.
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Deleted member 47027
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This is so silly to me. Reigns didn't do anything wrong. He's a victim of his booking. That's all.
I figure if you're in that shape, then do it!
What is the podcast called? I need more to listen to
Man, that match was a snoozefest. If you watched all 12 hours of WWE programming (preshow, etc) and you waited for that... you couldnt be anything but disapointed. The steph spot was the coolest part IMO.
Romans matches are rinse and repeat and do the same shit all the time. Same with HHH to a degree.
If we really dont get the reigns heel turn tonight, then yeah, that was one of the worst matches on the card.
Dick Justice
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Yeah, Keller generally tends to come across as fairly restrained when it comes to evaluating WWE (at least from his appearances on Austin's podcast). Shit, he even suggested that Haitch going over Sting was likely because he'd need to look good going into WM32. Calling Reigns an embarrassment says a lot in this case.
He gets more opportunities than the rest of the roster combined. Fucking Damien Sandow managed to get over with a series of dumb gimmicks. I think it's right about time to stop absolving Reigns of all responsibility for failing to get over.
British Monsoon
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That one sounded SO brutal;
Jumbo was in full angry old bastard mode at this point, the harder he hit the young upstarts, the crazier the crowd got. I don't think there's many tag matches in wrestling that have the heat of Misawa's New Generation Army vs Tsuruta-gun, just wild action every time they met.
One of my friends actually fell asleep after the HHH/Roman match started. Shit, even I was starting to feel my eyes get heavy at that point. The match was boring plus I was just burnt out because the show had gone on for way too long.
Bluekaveli
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Soap opera writers don't know fun. Fun for them is Ben sleeping with Jennifer while her husband Marshall is in the bed at the same time drugged up on illegal muscle relaxers.
They really need to change Reigns' gear. I just hate how his wrestling gear just literally looks like an ad because it's his Trademarked Logo Do Not Steal. Maybe I'm the only one that feels that way. Like he's a giant action figure. Like it just increases his manufactured feel even more.
It somehow comes across as even more irritating than Cena's shirts, but at least Cena doesn't have them on while wrestling so you're not staring at a Trademark for the entire match.
It somehow comes across as even more irritating than Cena's shirts, but at least Cena doesn't have them on while wrestling so you're not staring at a Trademark for the entire match.