hyperbertha
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Are you a PS5 Pro in 2020 believer?
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Elektro Demon
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Not that I really care, but I think no.
Why? Because of this Corona stuff.
Why? Because of this Corona stuff.
diffusionx
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I think the PS4 Pro is a great upgrade if you have a 4K display - the jump over the base system is obvious. And even if you have a 1080p TV, you can get excellent IQ with supersampling. So I'm glad it exists. I just wish it had a UHD drive, although I've never watched a UHD movie on my One X so...
Sony Explains How PS4 Pro May Help Keep People From Switching to PC
Data suggests people leave consoles mid-cycle to get a better experience on PC, PlayStation president says.
www.gamespot.com
Anyway the point of the PS4 Pro was that it was built to take advantage of stuff that came out after the PS4 launched. Launching a PS5 Pro at the same time as the PS5 makes no sense.
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LazyParrot
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No.
Hawking Radiation
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Is that the reason why the Xbox One X and PS4 Pro continues to sell way less than their base counterparts?
JareBear: Remastered
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I think the PS4 Pro is a great upgrade if you have a 4K display - the jump over the base system is obvious. And even if you have a 1080p TV, you can get excellent IQ with supersampling. So I'm glad it exists. I just wish it had a UHD drive, although I've never watched a UHD movie on my One X so...
Sony Explains How PS4 Pro May Help Keep People From Switching to PC
Data suggests people leave consoles mid-cycle to get a better experience on PC, PlayStation president says.
Anyway the point of the PS4 Pro was that it was built to take advantage of stuff that came out after the PS4 launched. Launching a PS5 Pro at the same time as the PS5 makes no sense.
I hate to admit it but you’re absolutely right. Starting with a Pro at launch seems to signal lack of confidence in the base model now.
My prediction:
In a few years the Pro will drop with a 2TB SSD installed, expanded RT capability (this will be stressed more than other upgrades as the “killer feature”), higher clocked CPU, and more CUs
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Rightisright
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Cant see any mid generation upgrades this time around.
Last time there was the move from 1080P to 4k, and both companies wanted to exploit that. Especially Sony who were making and selling 4k Tv's.
At 3-4 years into the generation they were able to put out a new console that was 3-4 times as powerful as the launch units, at a reasonable cost. 3-4 years after the launch of PS5 and XSX, I can't see them even being able to put a console out that's twice the power of the base models.
Another point is that last gen both consoles were pretty basic specs, and very little secret sauce. This gen with VRS, Mesh Shading, Ray Tracing etc, there is a ton more optimizations that can be done which wont be maxed out for years after the launch. The improvement after each generation of games will be alot higher than we saw on PS4 and Xbone.
Last time there was the move from 1080P to 4k, and both companies wanted to exploit that. Especially Sony who were making and selling 4k Tv's.
At 3-4 years into the generation they were able to put out a new console that was 3-4 times as powerful as the launch units, at a reasonable cost. 3-4 years after the launch of PS5 and XSX, I can't see them even being able to put a console out that's twice the power of the base models.
Another point is that last gen both consoles were pretty basic specs, and very little secret sauce. This gen with VRS, Mesh Shading, Ray Tracing etc, there is a ton more optimizations that can be done which wont be maxed out for years after the launch. The improvement after each generation of games will be alot higher than we saw on PS4 and Xbone.
TheGreatYosh
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Not a chance. The regular PS5 will be 500 dollars at best. Also, I don't think Sony is dumb enough to do that.
They will just use the same reasoning when PSVR2 comes out.
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Mendou
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Given the PS4 Pro and the egregious noise pollution it creates, I somewhat agree with you point. I can imagine the PS5 sounding like a vacuum cleaner if it takes a conventional console design.After what Sony have showed us until now I'm highly convinced that Sony's Engineering Team is not capable of building a console which will top the XBox Series X.
I really don't want to be rude, and I highly respect Mark Cerny, but the PS5 is in my opinion a not well thought out system in many ways.
Microsoft on the other hand thought about every single detail, nothing is in the XBox Series X without a reason, it's an engineered masterpiece, and you can already feel and see that though Microsoft really good PR and Marketing work. You can see that Microsoft is really confident in their Product, and that they had alot of fun building it together, the XBox Series X is a love letter to all XBox Fans!
And please don't let me get started now about Sony
After what Sony have showed us until now I'm highly convinced that Sony's Engineering Team is not capable of building a console which will top the XBox Series X.
I really don't want to be rude, and I highly respect Mark Cerny, but the PS5 is in my opinion a not well thought out system in many ways.
Microsoft on the other hand thought about every single detail, nothing is in the XBox Series X without a reason, it's an engineered masterpiece, and you can already feel and see that though Microsoft really good PR and Marketing work. You can see that Microsoft is really confident in their Product, and that they had alot of fun building it together, the XBox Series X is a love letter to all XBox Fans!
And please don't let me get started now about Sony
yeah, maybe thats why Sony didnt show much, didn't even officially reveal the console itself? The less time people can actually compare xbox series x vs ps5 before launch the better?
Jigsaah
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If they do and its on par with the series X, then Im getting it instead of the base ps5.
Am i a believer? Ya know what I think? I think Mark Cerny's presentation could have been a smokescreen. There is no way in hell they could have thought this was the best way to show their specs. I think they may have been playing dead.
I dont know for sure but Microsoft could get sucker punched around E3 time. Maybe shortly after their digital show.
(Heh, Sucker Punched)...
Am i a believer? Ya know what I think? I think Mark Cerny's presentation could have been a smokescreen. There is no way in hell they could have thought this was the best way to show their specs. I think they may have been playing dead.
I dont know for sure but Microsoft could get sucker punched around E3 time. Maybe shortly after their digital show.
(Heh, Sucker Punched)...
Most people would wait to see how the games look on both consoles,to see if their is enough difference graphically and frame-rate wise,that it actually makes any difference,,instead of comparing paper specs the whole time.
Most don’t have a clue what they are talking about,or try to make out they know more about the systems than the people who actually designed them ,as if.!
gamerforever
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I really see no chance of a pro anytime soon, which is fine as long as they don’t launch at the same price as the series x - that would allow microsoft to take the initiative. What would a pro even do? 12tf? Is this even a pro compared to a 10.3tf machine? To be a pro it would have to be 14tf and probably have 20gb of ram.
Kokoloko85
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I did before but really no point if the machine is as powerful as it is.
The gap wont be bigger than Xbox 1X and PS4 Pro.
Im hoping the price will be the difference.
The gap wont be bigger than Xbox 1X and PS4 Pro.
Im hoping the price will be the difference.
Venom Snake
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No way dude, 2023 maybe.