Joelstinton14
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Also, Especially on the Wii U they have been flexible with their pricing. On day one, Captain Toad was sold for £25, Splatoon, Bayonetta 2, X amongst others were sold at £30 too.
As a consumer, I like Nintendo's policy to maintain games' prices
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Also, Especially on the Wii U they have been flexible with their pricing. On day one, Captain Toad was sold for £25, Splatoon, Bayonetta 2, X amongst others were sold at £30 too.
DonMigs85
Member
But there are millions more like him, so Nintendo does kinda need his ilk.
Lol
blankempathy
Member
I get what op is saying and yes I do agree that product holding value is nice if you plan on reselling later on. Obviously for collectors and non sellers getting a game cheaper is better for their wallet. I have a good chunk of games that I've never bothered to sell because they're worth a few dollars at most and that's if I go through the hassle of ebay/craigslist. While it's cool you can get a game for 30 dollars off a month or two later it just makes me think "well why not wait a few more months until it's cheaper?". At least with certain nintendo games I can buy them at launch and know I'm not going to kick myself for not waiting. That or if I beat it and don't want it I can turn around and sell it for nearly what I paid. And even then you still save some money by waiting for a b2g1 free sale. It just depends on each individual. lol at the people saying Stockholm syndrome. People just have different needs. waiting is always best but it's nice to know that your $60 dollar game isn't going to fetch a few dollars a year from now if you decide to trade in.
Well... they kind of do in a very real sense. They need a loyal fanbase that grows up and stays interested in their franchises. If that fanbase is not that big (and realistically the fanbase has been shrinking), then the fanbase needs to pay a consistent and decent price for the games.
If Nintendo is to continue putting out mid-sized games with a niche audience, they need to charge a decent amount. Sometimes Nintendo hits it big of course with games like NSMB that sell 30M, but I get the feeling that many of their more experimental games get pretty low sales numbers.
OfTheOverflow
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This is why I won't be getting a Switch. I usually buy games after a half price sale at the earliest, so having to buy each game even years later at a high price just isn't really appetising.
I really don't agree, it's not up to the consumer to be devoted to Nintendo, it's up to Nintendo to convince the consumer to buy their products. Be it through releasing more mainstream stuff that more people want, or by altering the price to attract more sales.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
You guys are right overall, but if someone did not want console gaming to become a pure F2P land where gamers seemingly get what they asked for (you do not pay anything to get the games whoooo, this is totally NOT a monkey paw wish!!!!), appreciation of value instead of encouraging just a race to the bottom has, pun not intended, value to it
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The audience is devoted to Nintendo because the audience likes the games. by keeping the game prices at a decent and predictable amount, they don't need as big of an audience as many studios do to make a profit.
Many other studios are betting their entire future on a game, hoping to sell at least 3 million copies. And it's not really panning out for many of them. If Nintendo operated the way people here wanted them to, they'd quickly end up going 3rd party the way many people here want them to. And I'm sure eventually their studios would shrink to a shadow of what they are now.
Tell that to SEGA?
"game prices drop so fast" well, uh than wait. Does it hurt you to wait a week and get the game cheaper?
If Nintendo seriously cannot sell a game without its fans begging the corporation to take their money, then they deserve to go out of business.
Luckily, they are nowhere near that point.
blankempathy
Member
You don't see anything wrong with the idea of a game being half or almost half off less then a month after release? Dead rising 4 went as low as 24 bucks I think with the best buy gamer club discount. Both versions of ffxv hit 35 dollars on amazon. Great for people who don't want to pay much. Sucks for people who wanted a game at launch. And I can understand that. We all have games that we're excited to get our hands on but with the steep price drops we see its definitely a deterrent that keeps me from buying certain games at launch. I mean I can be okay with maybe not saving 10 or 15 dollars but 30 within a month? Thats a bit too much for me.
Orniletter
Banned
You are an absolute idiot if you buy a third party game day one for full price, because it'll literally be half off in a few months.
You might as well day one most Nintendo games, because they will hold more or less the same price over their entire lifespan.
It makes total sense and works for me.
Calling someone an idiot for paying the same amount for a third party game you are paying for a Nintendo game is some ridiculous logic.
There's a perfectly good reason people buy a game at launch despite knowing it will be cheaper in time: They want to play it now, not later.
geordiemp
Member
I think Nintendo pricing hurt the WiiU and will hurt the Switch in the market I live in, UK.
Every generation I have owned at least 2 or all consoles exception being the WiiU. to buy that console plus a controller and then a couple of games as a second console = £ silly price.
I can see it now, Switch + pro controller and 2 game = £ 400 +. I just cant see it taking off in UK and Nintendo will continue to irrelevant in the UK console space with their pricing which wont improve in year 2.
Switch second console proposition will be poor value proposition for all but the faithful.
Every generation I have owned at least 2 or all consoles exception being the WiiU. to buy that console plus a controller and then a couple of games as a second console = £ silly price.
I can see it now, Switch + pro controller and 2 game = £ 400 +. I just cant see it taking off in UK and Nintendo will continue to irrelevant in the UK console space with their pricing which wont improve in year 2.
Switch second console proposition will be poor value proposition for all but the faithful.
bobs...onGaf
Member
As many others have said I think this approach is why I don't really buy Nintendo consoles
Nintendo has a fairly rich and deep back library for me to explore but quite frankly many of those games don't seem worth 40 pounds to me. I can easily buy more than 3 big games from the last few years on another console for that price
On a very simplistic level - 3+ games from 2014/ 2015 serve me better than 1 game from 2012
Nintendo has a fairly rich and deep back library for me to explore but quite frankly many of those games don't seem worth 40 pounds to me. I can easily buy more than 3 big games from the last few years on another console for that price
On a very simplistic level - 3+ games from 2014/ 2015 serve me better than 1 game from 2012
Moon Presence
Member
It's just one of the things Nintendo needs to change if they want to be competitive. End the pathetic overpriced games, don't make me buy the same games over and over again and a proper online service.
Otherwise I won't even bother with the Switch.
Otherwise I won't even bother with the Switch.
katsubento
Member
I just discovered another reason I don't care for Nintendo much nowadays. Thanks OP.
Wiitardation
Member
I appreciate that Nintendo games retain their replayability after so many years unlike 95% of the AAA industry.
Do wish they'd drop in price though.
Do wish they'd drop in price though.
I always joked HL3 would bomb because gamers wouldn't buy it until a Steam sale.
Pretty much my stance.
If someone has the means to do so how does that make someone an idiot?
ScientificPizza
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yikes
Weltall Zero
Member
The argument seems to be that if you buy games day one, and you then always resell them when done, you are better off with buying games from a company that doesn't devalue them. That's actually hard to argue against, but at that point I have to wonder if you're not better off simply renting them. Myself, I'm a game collector and never resell my games, so obviously this argument has little appeal to me personally.
You are confusing value with price. Value is how much utility you get from something (enjoyment, in the case of games). For each individual person, this is a real, objective quality entirely unrelated from price (that is, "value for Weltall Zero" is a completely different property than "value for Mael"; buth both are real, existing values).
The value I got from FTL is off the charts, and adjusting that up or down because it cost me 5$ makes absolutely zero rational sense. If your "perceived value" is proportionally related to price, that's a bias in your perception, not a property of "value" itself; your "perceived value" is misaligned with "actual value (for Mael)" of the game.
You are confusing value with price. Value is how much utility you get from something (enjoyment, in the case of games). For each individual person, this is a real, objective quality entirely unrelated from price (that is, "value for Weltall Zero" is a completely different property than "value for Mael"; buth both are real, existing values).
The value I got from FTL is off the charts, and adjusting that up or down because it cost me 5$ makes absolutely zero rational sense. If your "perceived value" is proportionally related to price, that's a bias in your perception, not a property of "value" itself; your "perceived value" is misaligned with "actual value (for Mael)" of the game.
It's clearly great for their platform adoption and ecosystem too. Look at how WiiU hardware is just flying off the shelves! New mainline entries for fan favourites like Zelda, Mario, F-zero, Star Fox, Kirby and Metroid are being pumped out for the WiiU now and onto the near future! Keep sipping that Kool Aid, brother.
The market has spoken; consumers are well aware that games drop drastically in price after release, but many are still willing to pay a premium to have games at launch. Dropping the price later gets cheap mugs with a mortgage like me on board, which helps bolster the online community to keep multiplayer viable for those early adopters. Everybody wins. 60+ million PS4/Xbone owners can't be wrong.
The market has spoken; consumers are well aware that games drop drastically in price after release, but many are still willing to pay a premium to have games at launch. Dropping the price later gets cheap mugs with a mortgage like me on board, which helps bolster the online community to keep multiplayer viable for those early adopters. Everybody wins. 60+ million PS4/Xbone owners can't be wrong.
geordiemp
Member
So you think that if you pick up a non Nintendo game thats a year or 2 old it will play rubbish ? Nintendo fans are hilarious.
Not many bought the WiiU because not many thought that the games + hardware were worth the asking price. Its as simple as that. If you are a die hard N fan, then yes you pay.
But for many who are not, games such as platformers are £ 15 to £ 20 experiences and are not in the same division as a Destiny, Mass Effect and the like. Thats why nobody bought the damn thing. I also put a kart racer into the £ 20 experience (But I do prefer excite truck).
The only game that is worth £ 50 is probably a big zelda IMO (and excite truck lol).
It went on sale numerous times at retail. I paid $19.99 for it from a sale best buy had a few years ago. It was also on sale for that price (or maybe a little bit more) earlier this year at best buy.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Bonkers. Absolutely bonkers.
Nope. If I buy a game at full price at launch I will have weighed the benefits of paying the $60 against the potential savings down the line. With Nintendo there is no savings, ever. This does not make their approach better at all, you're still spending the same $$$ just without any option of spending less.
ChrisMahoney
Banned
OP how many games have you sold? Because your logic is flawed if you don't sell all your Nintendo games within a year of purchasing
Another reason to go physical. Everything will go one sale there at some point.
It's Sega's fault for making terrible business decisions and hurting their brand during the mid 90s to late 00s. They didn't need charity services from fans. If a company, especially an international multi-billion dollar company, reaches a point where it needs charity services to continue existing, it deserves to fail.
They don't need your money, they need to put out products that you are willing to pay for, that's how it works. They are not your friend, they are not your family, they aren't a charity case, you and everyone here is nothing more than an inhuman, unnamed, insignificant number on their quarterly statics for investors. They will only acknowledge that they care for their fans if they see it profitable to do so and once they're done riding that solid gold dildo for 30 minutes and getting the most out of it, they'll throw it back into the drawer and ignore it until they feel like they're in the mood again, whenever that will be.
krizalidzero
Member
I think the problem is the lack of balance. Some companies are doing the exact opposite and that sucks. I can't believe FFXV is already heavily discounted!!!
But Nintendo is also stupid, cause it hurts games sales.
We need a better balance.
But Nintendo is also stupid, cause it hurts games sales.
We need a better balance.
NoHeDidn't
Member
You must have been in the mood to argue making a thread like this.
And as a "consumer" Nintendo hurts you the most whoever said "stockholm syndrome" is not only funny but true.I waited over a year to play Bayo 2 cause I couldn't afford the used price so they did me no favors maintaining its value.
And as a "consumer" Nintendo hurts you the most whoever said "stockholm syndrome" is not only funny but true.I waited over a year to play Bayo 2 cause I couldn't afford the used price so they did me no favors maintaining its value.
I saw it for $5 in on a bargain shelf just yesterday.
Not that I think someone who buys at launch is an idiot, but it shouldn't be hard to understand why buying a game at launch for it to be discounted a few weeks later isn't exactly consumer friendly. Just look at Ubisoft games.
SumptuousLemur
Banned
You just need to look at the Wii U to see this has everything to do with squeezing every penny from what they make.
The Wii U is dead, manufacturing is done, many retailers are sending back Wii Us and games, and their new platform is coming out in less than 3 months. Yet the Wii U is still highly priced along with its games.
It makes absolutely no sense for the Wii U and its games to still demand such a high price. It's price fixing because you can't get their games anywhere else. The only saving grace is when they add a game to their Selects line but that takes like 3-4 years after release.
It's ridiculous and is just a representation of their business culture of extreme conservative manufacturing, pricing and release.
The Wii U is dead, manufacturing is done, many retailers are sending back Wii Us and games, and their new platform is coming out in less than 3 months. Yet the Wii U is still highly priced along with its games.
It makes absolutely no sense for the Wii U and its games to still demand such a high price. It's price fixing because you can't get their games anywhere else. The only saving grace is when they add a game to their Selects line but that takes like 3-4 years after release.
It's ridiculous and is just a representation of their business culture of extreme conservative manufacturing, pricing and release.
I understand, I just think too often gamers act as if $10-30 a few times a year is budget breaking. Like those car insurance commercials where people say the save $500. That's over the course of a year. It really is not that much money. If you enjoyed the game when you purchase it at full price, it going on sale should have no effect on that experience.