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Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
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Not here for that mess. I want Connor off AC series for good and I want them to stay away from America as setting. Give me China, give me Japan, give me Egypt, give me France, give me Russia.

Russia should be brilliant, but comon, who wouldn't want a Victorian Assassin? You pretty much have the plot already written, and set pieces aplenty!
 
Russia should be brilliant, but comon, who wouldn't want a Victorian Assassin? You pretty much have the plot already written, and set pieces aplenty!

Wasn't Dishonored just that?

I feel like the only setting where there hasn't been an assassin game is France. Which is funny considering Arkane and Ubisoft are there.
 

Midou

Member
Wasn't Dishonored just that?

I feel like the only setting where there hasn't been an assassin game is France. Which is funny considering Arkane and Ubisoft are there.

Well, I'd still like to see that setting in a full open world city like Assassin's Creed. But yes, France would be my number one now.
 

Currygan

at last, for christ's sake
Wasn't Dishonored just that?

I feel like the only setting where there hasn't been an assassin game is France. Which is funny considering Arkane and Ubisoft are there.

isn't Dishonored fictional and with a good amount of steampunk though? Didn't play it, though
 

Yuripaw

Banned
Playing this on PC, and...omfg...Fuck this sequence 3 mission where I'm trying to sneak into a camp without being scene -_- This is splinter cell 1 frustrating trial and error shit. Probably would be done if i didn't try sabotaging the cannons also, but too many damn soldiers around.
 
Playing this on PC, and...omfg...Fuck this sequence 3 mission where I'm trying to sneak into a camp without being scene -_- This is splinter cell 1 frustrating trial and error shit. Probably would be done if i didn't try sabotaging the cannons also, but too many damn soldiers around.

protip, stealth kill with bare hands doesn't count as a kill.
 
I think Connor should be a one and done deal. He was far too nieve to be believable to the detriment of the revenge storyline. Haytham was much more interesting.

French Revolution would be cool because it was pretty nasty and it's France, a beautiful city.
You get the revolution back drop like in ACIII, but a much better/sexy setting for an AC game.

The only way I'd like to see them continue the Connor storyline is if they use a decendant during the U.S. vs. Indian wars of the 1800s. Custer is a perfect AC villian. It wouldn't work though because it would be set outside a major city.
 
They really need to get one super manager to get all of ubisoft's shit together.

Game just feels like a tech demo, with impressive animations, but very few actual designers around to make fun/ enjoyable levels.

That ios game sounds interesting, lets add that idea here! etc.

It also doesn't help that mark of the ninja dishonored and hitman all came out this year with way better stealth systems.

It's just extremely frustrating to play in a pretty unique way lol.

The studio has the manpower and the talent, just no... leader, vision? don't know.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
Could the relative coherence of AC and ACII have been due largely to the presence of Patrice Désilets? This game certainly felt like it lacked any kind of director with a solid creative vision.

The last game in the series he was involved with was Brotherhood, right?
 
The studio has the manpower and the talent, just no... leader, vision? don't know.

The game seems like a textbook example of what can happen when you have like half a dozen studios across the world working on one game. It's like a giant puzzle, but none of the pieces seem to fit together or feel cohesive. The naval stuff and Peg Leg side missions were great but they felt like they were just slapped on. None of it felt like it gelled together.
 

UrbanRats

Member
French Revolution would be cool because it was pretty nasty and it's France, a beautiful city.
You get the revolution back drop like in ACIII, but a much better/sexy setting for an AC game.

France is not a city, though. :p
I agree with you: France revolution followed by Victorian London and then Russian revolution
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Angry Fork

Member
Up to Sequence 7, I think the game is alright but nowhere near as interesting as AC Brotherhood or AC2. The game 'feels' really iffy as well. Not being able to hide when you get seen is atrocious, I don't know who thought that was a good idea. Once someone turns red arrow even if he doesn't see you and is just going to investigate you can't hide you have to fight or run it's stupid as hell.

It feels like even though running across buildings and in the street is a bit smoother it's less predictable. In AC2 and Brotherhood I knew exactly what would make me fall down, what I would and wouldn't be able to do. In this game you sort of have to take your chances and hope your character's animation doesn't fuck up, it wasn't like that in previous entries.

I wish I could explain better what I mean about it feeling iffy. It probably doesn't help that my framerate is shit in foggy areas and there are hardly any visual options to tone down compared to previous entries.

I really wish the next game would be set during the Russian Revolution, either that or in the Soviet Union and you play as a member of the secret police or something. I'd like to play as a flat out evil character one day with a personality rather than a blank slate.
 
The game seems like a textbook example of what can happen when you have like half a dozen studios across the world working on one game. It's like a giant puzzle, but none of the pieces seem to fit together or feel cohesive. The naval stuff and Peg Leg side missions were great but they felt like they were just slapped on. None of it felt like it gelled together.

You also probably can't discount Desilet's influence, either.

The two games we know he did not work on did not seem as good as AC2 and Brotherhood.
 

UrbanRats

Member
You also probably can't discount Desilet's influence, either.

The two games we know he did not work on did not seem as good as AC2 and Brotherhood.

Yeah as flawed as AC1 was, he seemed to have a very peculiar vision about the setting and the general gamedesign, down to the controls.
I remember one interview in which Jade Raymond said the idea of "high" and "low" profile were his, of controlling the character sort of like a car, with "gas and break pedals".
 

Medalion

Banned
I don't understand the complaint people are having that you cannot successfully hide if your pursuer has you in their line of sight and saw you dive headfirst into a haystack... I mean, in real life, you saw that guy dive into a haystack... it's not like you'll go... oh well fuck that, they became a ghost and dissapeared and walk away... you saw him dive in there and he hasn't gone anywhere else... go into that haystack and give that stack a real assforking!
 
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Deleted member 17706

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It feels like even though running across buildings and in the street is a bit smoother it's less predictable. In AC2 and Brotherhood I knew exactly what would make me fall down, what I would and wouldn't be able to do. In this game you sort of have to take your chances and hope your character's animation doesn't fuck up, it wasn't like that in previous entries.

Yeah... I really don't like the new control scheme at all. The only good thing is that you can enter and leave combat more easily, but that comes at the cost of being able to lock on to a specific target. Also, I may be wrong, but you can't attack random people in this game, right?

The movement controls suffered with their "streamlining" attempts in my opinion. I felt like I had much more control over precisely what my character would do in AC and the ACII series. Sure there were a lot of mistaken jumps taken in the beginning, but I felt the controls of those games were very tight once you got used to it.

With Assassin's Creed III, I never felt like I quite got a handle on the controls even after 30 hours with it. So much of it seemed like I just had to hope the game would know what I was intending to do and that the animation wouldn't fuck up. Chances are, it would, though.
 
Man this game is great!

I feel like I should say this every once in a while to combat the insane negativity. When does this get put into the community section?
 
whats the peg leg stuff? Is it the missions where you storm bases trying to find treasure?

Those are pretty fun.

Speaking of ship missions, how does one target the weak spots? Seem random when they get highlighted.
 

_Isaac

Member
I don't understand the complaint people are having that you cannot successfully hide if your pursuer has you in their line of sight and saw you dive headfirst into a haystack... I mean, in real life, you saw that guy dive into a haystack... it's not like you'll go... oh well fuck that, they became a ghost and dissapeared and walk away... you saw him dive in there and he hasn't gone anywhere else... go into that haystack and give that stack a real assforking!

Yeah. I don't really understand this complaint either. It makes sense to me, and that part of the system is pretty easy to understand. Try to get to a spot where the line of sight is broken and then hide. I actually thought it has always been like this, but I guess I don't remember the details of the previous games.
 

Noi

Member
I don't understand the complaint people are having that you cannot successfully hide if your pursuer has you in their line of sight and saw you dive headfirst into a haystack... I mean, in real life, you saw that guy dive into a haystack... it's not like you'll go... oh well fuck that, they became a ghost and dissapeared and walk away... you saw him dive in there and he hasn't gone anywhere else... go into that haystack and give that stack a real assforking!

I'm not complaining about it if the guard has already seen me and I'm running away. I'm complaining about it when the guard is simply investigating and doesn't know I'm there yet. If he hasn't acknowledged that I'm there, why can't I hide in the haystack?
 
I'm not complaining about it if the guard has already seen me and I'm running away. I'm complaining about it when the guard is simply investigating and doesn't know I'm there yet. If he hasn't acknowledged that I'm there, why can't I hide in the haystack?

for me, the line of sight isn't the issue. its when the AI bugs out and the guys investigate my location indefinitely.
 

Noi

Member
for me, the line of sight isn't the issue. its when the AI bugs out and the guys investigate my location indefinitely.

That's also a thing, yeah. It happens more often than not in boats, where the guards see me for a millisecond while hanging off the edge, and they'll just keep looking in my direction indefinitely instead of going back after a time. :/
 

K' Dash

Member
Man this game is great!

I feel like I should say this every once in a while to combat the insane negativity. When does this get put into the community section?

yep, the game is great, it's a shame that GAF decided to hate it, maybe later in LTTP threads it will get the love it deserves.

PC version specially looks and plays beautifully.
 
That's also a thing, yeah. It happens more often than not in boats, where the guards see me for a millisecond while hanging off the edge, and they'll just keep looking in my direction indefinitely instead of going back after a time. :/

This caused my full synch on one of the missions to take hours and hours.

It relied on a very specific path of killing and climbing and sometimes a guard that saw me out of the corner of his eye will just not go back to his patrol ever.
 

Raxus

Member
whats the peg leg stuff? Is it the missions where you storm bases trying to find treasure?

Those are pretty fun.

Speaking of ship missions, how does one target the weak spots? Seem random when they get highlighted.

You have to focus damage on a particular part of this ship. It is mostly luck sadly and easily the worst optional objective in the game. Hope you haven't upgraded your ship's damage!
 

_Isaac

Member
That's also a thing, yeah. It happens more often than not in boats, where the guards see me for a millisecond while hanging off the edge, and they'll just keep looking in my direction indefinitely instead of going back after a time. :/

Oh wow. This has happened to me so often. It's even happened to me in forced stealth areas. At that point, sometimes the only way is to just break out into a fight again.

That also reminds me when you're trying to infiltrate a fort and someone sees you. You can hide and it all goes back to normal except some of the soldiers start saying stuff like
"Keep your eyes open. The bastard's around here somewhere."
"Keep your eyes open. The bastard's around here somewhere."
"Keep your eyes open. The bastard's around here somewhere."
"Keep your eyes open. The bastard's around here somewhere."
"Keep your eyes open. The bastard's around here somewhere."
"Keep your eyes open. The bastard's around here somewhere."
for a good solid minute. That is pretty annoying.
 
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Deleted member 17706

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yep, the game is great, it's a shame that GAF decided to hate it, maybe later in LTTP threads it will get the love it deserves.

PC version specially looks and plays beautifully.

"Decided to hate it?" I think most of the complaints have been documented thoroughly so far. Why do you think it's "great"?

I agree that the PC version looks and plays beautifully. It's an amazing looking game. It has great sound, cool animations, and a very well-done atmosphere that sucks you in to the world.

That's about the extend of what I feel is "great" about the game. In terms of what you actually do and see in it, it's a fucking mess.
 

Medalion

Banned
Sometimes it's just about charging past minions and sticking those hidden blades into the back of your intended target

Good times
 
yep, the game is great, it's a shame that GAF decided to hate it, maybe later in LTTP threads it will get the love it deserves.

PC version specially looks and plays beautifully.

I love Assassin's Creed games, even when I hate them.

Unlike almost all of my friends, I am mostly positive about this one.

But fuck if there aren't a lot of things about it to hate. I don't think accusing people of disliking it by implying there's a hive mind consensus and not totally legitimate complaints about things people may prioritize and have different standards for than you does anything but make you look like a dumb child.
 

_Isaac

Member
I also have to say that some of the glitches are just adorable. Having Connor turn bald all of a sudden or fly up into the sky when you fail a mission is pretty hilarious.
 
I loved all the other AC games, including the first, and this was my most hyped game of the year. Too bad I have to hate it because the Gaf Hive-mind has spoken. First you ass holes make me dislike Dark Knight Rises, now this. Damn it!


I also have to say that some of the glitches are just adorable. Having Connor turn bald all of a sudden or fly up into the sky when you fail a mission is pretty hilarious.

I had cleared out an entire fort and Connor decided to get stuck crouched walking on thin air. Had to do the damn fort over.
 

Trey

Member
I couldn't bring myself to continue playing after sequence 1. It's so boring.

But the multiplayer? I like that. Most fun I had in the series since Brotherhood.
 

Riggs

Banned
Wow at the hate in here , I am really loving the game and setting as I am from MA so that's why I like the setting so much. Also connor is fine at least he isn't a total dick like Ezio, and I still did love Ezio btw but he was kind of an asshole.
 

Medalion

Banned
I am thankful that these characters I play as have unlimited stamina, they can run fast forever without having to catch their breath... unlike those lazy horses when ya try to spur em
 
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qizah

Unconfirmed Member
I just finished the game on the Wii U.

Despite all the negativity I've been hearing about it, I absolutely loved the game ... for the most part. The frame rate does suck at parts and it does have the same glitches AC typically has, but even so I'd be lying if I said I wasn't having fun playing it.

In terms of story ...:
I like Connor as a character. He's really different from Altair and Ezio, but Ezio's character still reigns supreme. Connor is super emotional, though within the context of the game, a lot of that makes sense. For the most part, I liked it.

The whole sci-fi stuff with the older Civilization is really convoluted and weird. The conclusion of Desmond's story is pretty meh. I was hoping for something better than touching a stupid orb to decide Earth's fate ... oh well.
 
I'm really loving the Homestead missions in this game. The characters and stories are far more enjoyable than anything in the real story, and the frontier is by far the prettiest part of the game. I'm playing the PC version, getting 60 FPS with no drops out there, and I'm just eyegasming all over the place. I'm just sprinting around whirling my tomahawk, going at my own pace so I never get frustrated when Connor decides he isn't perfectly lined up with the next tree branch and stops dead in his tracks. I've even been doing a whole lot of trading and crafting, even though I know it's almost worthless.

I'm dreading having to go back and play story missions, though. I think I'm in Sequence 8, and so far the story missions have been bearable at best. At worst they've been controller-throwingly frustrating. After a totally unacceptable number of instant-fail stealth missions, the game's new favourite trick is to make me tail NPCs with terrible pathfinding code, who'll jitter around obstacles and spin 180 degrees totally at random.

A character told me we'd be going to New York, and I thought it'd be a chance to explore a sweet new city. Not so. The game locks you into a series of missions the moment you reach the city, the first one being a slow horseride where your NPC guide completely ruins the serious tone of his monologue by mowing down about a hundred pedestrians. Then you're immediately dropped into a terrible tailing mission, then
sent to jail and forced through that whole ordeal
, and by the time you're done it's onto a new Sequence and you're back on the Homestead. And then I think there was a Desmond section right after that. What an incredibly hamfisted way of introducing a new city.
 
Is their a comprehensive post that details all the minor stuff the game doesn't teach you? Kind of like that RE6 control thread?

I noticed some stuff here and there as I poked around this thread before I finally bought the game and would hate to have to go page by page.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
I am thankful that these characters I play as have unlimited stamina, they can run fast forever without having to catch their breath... unlike those lazy horses when ya try to spur em

I have always hated horses in AC. They make the games run like shit with stuff popping up all over.
 

Clevinger

Member
Wow at the hate in here , I am really loving the game and setting as I am from MA so that's why I like the setting so much. Also connor is fine at least he isn't a total dick like Ezio, and I still did love Ezio btw but he was kind of an asshole.

I don't really get the hate for Connor, but I'm only a little more than halfway through. I mean, he's not that interesting or good, but the previous protagonists (and especially the main character of the series, Desmond) were fairly bland as well.
 
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Deleted member 17706

Unconfirmed Member
I don't really get the hate for Connor, but I'm only a little more than halfway through. I mean, he's not that interesting or good, but the previous protagonists (and especially the main character of the series, Desmond) were fairly bland as well.

For me, it was because he really didn't have any believable motivations in the end.
 

Riggs

Banned
I don't really get the hate for Connor, but I'm only a little more than halfway through. I mean, he's not that interesting or good, but the previous protagonists (and especially the main character of the series, Desmond) were fairly bland as well.

Same I am at 50% , hopefully Connor does not do something insanely dumb to make me hate him lol. Also if you reply to this and say he does please use spoiler tags!
 
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Deleted member 17706

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He's fine, but he just sucked as the protagonist.

It didn't make sense for him to really be dedicated to the Assassin ideology. It didn't really make sense for him to support the revolution or the British. It didn't make sense for him to choose to support those he did in many cases. It's like he'd just do whatever anyone asked him. I think the assassination missions, where you straight up murder some random Joe on the street, were some kind of meta commentary about Connor and his character, or lack thereof.
 

_Isaac

Member
A character told me we'd be going to New York, and I thought it'd be a chance to explore a sweet new city. Not so. The game locks you into a series of missions the moment you reach the city, the first one being a slow horseride where your NPC guide completely ruins the serious tone of his monologue by mowing down about a hundred pedestrians. Then you're immediately dropped into a terrible tailing mission, then
sent to jail and forced through that whole ordeal
, and by the time you're done it's onto a new Sequence and you're back on the Homestead. And then I think there was a Desmond section right after that. What an incredibly hamfisted way of introducing a new city.

The first time I came to New York, I sank into the Earth. I think that's a pretty hilarious way to start off a new city.
 

conman

Member
yep, the game is great, it's a shame that GAF decided to hate it, maybe later in LTTP threads it will get the love it deserves.
I don't see that happening. It's a hugely over-budgeted game that under-delivered. That doesn't generally spell "GAF darling."
 
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